Butanediol notice

[311]

After people start dying from 1,4 butanediol there is a decent chance it will come with media coverage and a ban from Amazon and Ebay. I would reccomend spending the 35 dollars for 2oz before it is banned.

 

[Johnnythefox]

After people start dying from 1,4 butanediol there is a decent chance it will come with media coverage and a ban from Amazon and Ebay. I would reccomend spending the 35 dollars for 2oz before it is banned.

It's already banned in the UK.

 

[sadsoul]

I wish I could order it now :/

 

[Johnnythefox]

I wish I could order it now :/

It's available in your country on eBay.

This is the uk status.
https://www.drugwise.org.uk/ghb/

 

[sadsoul]

It's available in your country on eBay.

This is the uk status.
https://www.drugwise.org.uk/ghb/

I know, but I can't order anything online since I'm so young and I don't have a credit card/paypal/bank account.

 

[311]

I know, but I can't order anything online since I'm so young and I don't have a credit card/paypal/bank account.

How old r u?

 

[RememberWhatUCameFor]

its easily accesable if you live in the eu

no need for dark web etc

 

[Retched]

After people start dying from 1,4 butanediol there is a decent chance it will come with media coverage and a ban from Amazon and Ebay. I would reccomend spending the 35 dollars for 2oz before it is banned.

Is the 2oz the consensus on how much should be taken then?

 

[311]

Is the 2oz the consensus on how much should be taken then?

60ml or 100ml

 

[Retched]

60ml or 100ml[/QUOTE

So the 2oz is cutting it close?

 

[311]

60ml will kill you. 100 will too.

 

[Xerxes]

From Toxnet:

15 or 30 g of 1,4-butanediol (0.21 or 0.43 g/kg bw) was rectally administered to 7 patients. After 10 to 20 minutes, the patients became /comatose/ after deep unconsciousness, miosis and complete areflexia and this condition continued for 1 to 16 hr. Two of them died within 72 hours after the administration, but other five patients recovered naturally or after treatment with analeptic. Sustained disorder was not observed. Renal disorder was found on two /dead/ patients.

 

[TiredHorse]

I ordered the 2oz/60ml from Amazon, in the US.

For reference: I'm ~140# and I don't drink, so I should be knocked down pretty easily, but I have the metabolism of a hummingbird so if I do choose to use it I'll go with the full 60ml.

 

[Jen Erik]

In the U.S., be sure to check individual state laws as well as the laws of the state of the retailer from which the substance is being purchased.

In the state of California, for example, any receipt or sale of the substance within the state must be documented with the state's Department of Justice.

http://ag.ca.gov/bne/pdfs/laws03.pdf

Relevant sections, defining which chemicals are subject to reporting and under what circumstances:
Section 11100. Report of Controlled Substance Transaction
Section 11100.1 Report of Controlled Substance Received from Outside State

 

[Itstimeforpeace]

I'm not sure anyone here is concerned with reporting their purchase to the DOJ.

 

[Jen Erik]

I'm not sure anyone here is concerned with reporting their purchase to the DOJ.

The sellers might be, though, particularly if they are a chemical supply company as opposed to a private party.

Knowing the laws that are applicable to one's area could be important. This is a bit different than the whole "buying N from A" thing, where there is a history of people's experiences to look at; with this, there's nothing yet.

 

[Didymus]

Any Dutch people ordered and received this from ebay.de ? I think there are 1 or 2 sellers from germany.

 

[Fcancer]

How are you going to be sure it is exactly what you're buying?? Testing etc.

 

[ausboy96]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072MQCL2K/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Is this a good source? It seems to be the only one that ships to Australia.

 

[Cody111]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072MQCL2K/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Is this a good source? It seems to be the only one that ships to Australia.

Still a controlled substance. If you were to order it. 500ml would be hard to pass as personal use if you dont have a valid import licence or reason to possess it.

 

[Strumgewehr]

It's already banned in the UK.

Is there anything that is not banned in the UK?

 

[RememberWhatUCameFor]

Any Dutch people ordered and received this from ebay.de ? I think there are 1 or 2 sellers from germany.

the chance that customs will block the delivery from germany are 0.000000000000000001%


thats the good thing about the eu


btw i ordered steroids from the uk in the past - no problem at all. so as long as the uk is in the eu it should be the same for the uk. as long as the guys from ebay ship to your country and your country is in the EU you will have zero problems

 

[OnlyMercy]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072MQCL2K/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Is this a good source? It seems to be the only one that ships to Australia.

I would be concerned with the purity of this as its listed for 'practical' purposes only - Does this imply 50%, 70%, 90%?

 

[gingerplum]

It's already banned in the UK.

Interesting. While 1, 4 B is banned in the UK, but not in the US, the opposite is true for gamma-Butyrolactone, the other presursor to GHB. I haven't really gotten into this, because the waters on this subject are murky enough, but yeah, this is something worth investigating if being in the UK is the only thing stopping you from ordering 1, 4 B.



https://cafebabel.com/en/article/gb...high-in-your-garage-5ae0058af723b35a145dec61/

 

[Johnnythefox]

Interesting. While 1, 4 B is banned in the UK, but not in the US, the opposite is true for gamma-Butyrolactone, the other presursor to GHB. I haven't really gotten into this, because the waters on this subject are murky enough, but yeah, this is something worth investigating if being in the UK is the only thing stopping you from ordering 1, 4 B.



https://cafebabel.com/en/article/gb...high-in-your-garage-5ae0058af723b35a145dec61/

An interesting read.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coma-in-a-bottle-drug-gbl-is-legally-819298

 

[gingerplum]

After people start dying from 1,4 butanediol there is a decent chance it will come with media coverage and a ban from Amazon and Ebay. I would reccomend spending the 35 dollars for 2oz before it is banned.

So, I've thought about this and the ramifications of reported overdoses and/or deaths linked to a chemical legally available online.

Personally, I feel obligated to remove the label ~or~ decant the contents into a different bottle, and either dump what I don't use, or shelve it away in a remote corner of the garage with a label that says "tire cleaner," or something equally nondescript.

Any event of an OD with a bottle labelled "1, 4 Butanediol, Indiana Chemical LLC" in plain sight will result in a report being filed; once enough of these reports accumulate, it'll be enough to raise a flag to the powers that be who legislate and regulate the sale of such chemicals.

I don't want to see a legitimate company that makes its livelihood (at least partially) on the sale of this chemical negatively impacted; I also don't want other future consumers seeking this out (regardless of intent or purpose) to be penalized by legislation making this Illegal.

The upshot is, whether or not you're serious about CTB, take measures to keep this substance safe and well-concealed to ensure it remains available to others at a later date.

1, 4 B will probably be banned from public sale in the not too distant future, but regardless, I don't want my indifferent attitude to play any potential part in that.

Disguise it; hide it; keep it safe.

 

[gingerplum]

An interesting read.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coma-in-a-bottle-drug-gbl-is-legally-819298

Right?!? Like I said, the questions surrounding this method are already overwhelming, so this isn't a thread I want to pull right now, but it's worth putting out there so people in the UK can research it themselves.

 

[Johnnythefox]

Right?!? Like I said, the questions surrounding this method are already overwhelming, so this isn't a thread I want to pull right now, but it's worth putting out there so people in the UK can research it themselves.

I've had a look and products containing gamma-butyrolactone are virtually non existent. There are sites which claim to be in the UK but further investigation shows them to be in either Germany, Netherlands or Lithuania.
GHB was widely used in a great number of date rapes in the UK, it's probably still obtainable from a street chemist but I don't know any.

*GBL products are not available in the UK and carry the same penalty as GHB and related *

 

[gingerplum]

I've had a look and products containing gamma-butyrolactone are virtually non existent. There are sites which claim to be in the UK but further investigation shows them to be in either Germany, Netherlands or Lithuania.
GHB was widely used in a great number of date rapes in the UK, it's probably still obtainable from a street chemist but I don't know any.

*GBL products are not available in the UK and carry the same penalty as GHB and related *

See what you think of this, Foxy:

https://shopandclean.com/gamma-butyrolactone/05-litre-gbl-99-cleaner

 

[Johnnythefox]

See what you think of this, Foxy:

https://shopandclean.com/gamma-butyrolactone/05-litre-gbl-99-cleaner

I had a look at them and they are Netherlands based.