“Bring back bullying”

[tasmaka]

Im currently 18, still in highschool, And ive been dealing with bullying my entire life from school, starting as young as 4.

When I was younger say elementary, I was constantly bullied by everyone around me, and no adults cared, listened, or helped despite being aware. Since i was atleast 5, getting constantly picked on, harassed, and physically harmed became a normal part of my daily routine going to school which hasnt ended.

Starting in elementary, all i could understand was, this is happening because of my race, because Im too weak, and theres nothing I could do, nobody can help me.

In middle school, this constant treatment led me to believe those who inflicted it on me were really friends, its just how boys act right, its just playful? So when I had gotten in a relationship with a girl who knew this about me, Its crazy to say but I was honestly used and wasn't respected as another person. The respect thing can kinda just be super clear in how, even though it was her to "start" our relationship, she would actively seek out other relationships and partners in front of me, knowing I wouldnt do anything.. little me got cucked anyways point is bcuz of bullying, this stuff was just normalized and everyone around knew how I was, so definitely have gotten taken advantage of for being such a loser.

After middle school, all I knew was, It hardly gets better, the topics mature a bit, but Im still a pussy, and nobody will care.

Starting highschool, I actually made "friends" freshman year, but one semester in, it became clear nobody really was interested in me as a person but really just an extra person to seek validation from, not to do stuff friends would do. I had still gotten bullied alot, but its much less than before, rarely physical, small wins. Sophomore year, I made close connections with a few people, not anything too deep, but enough to get through the day not alone in every class. Going into junior year, and senior year nothing has changed , except more bullying has come back, and those friends I had are gone, or over me as a friend, people move on yk.

But I know everything is going to be over soon with graduation soon, these people will mean nothing to me, but honestly the treatment Ive received before just always comes back especially now. Alot of people seem to enjoy putting me down as a person, and out of knowing I wont do anything about it, and its made me skip alot of school since, why come?? Everyone here hates me, and if they dont, I kinda hate them for ignoring stuff right in there faces. Everyone in highschool preaches mental health, and suddenly everyone is an extremely strong advocate, but when someone like me has been around forever, its suddenly just "something that happens"? And forever Ive said my issues to people around me, my age and older, and adults, out of everyone ive ever gone to with the stuff happening, 0 have ever put a second thought into a word i have said. I could go on about how Ive been told numerous times "maybe if you said something" , "well how would I have known," , "it really isnt that serious/it builds character", but this story probably isnt new.

Online the concept, "bring bullying back" keeps catching my eye. The pros, "character building" , "some people just deserve it", and "it has unfortunately disappeared"… and the cons,… EVERYTHING???
(The pros are nonexistent and false btw, hope thats clear, just dont be an asshole)

Bullying is genuinely one of the major factors for my poor mental health, and since I had started getting bullied, I have dealt with anxiety, depression, and even the concept of suicide just because as a kid I really thought, "maybe I really do deserve it". (And honestly id like to say Ive done NOTHING like ever.. other than show up to school, genuinely mean this, because sometimes karma does exist yk. ) so the idea that bullying NEEDS to come back (*really "become more prominent) in order to improve society (SOMEHOWW) is genuinely idiotic.

"I support mental health and it needs to be talked about!"
Going to
"Bullying is needed because people just deserve it"

Makes noooo sense….

Anyways this could totally be me coping but whaateverr, im just bummed cuz ive been getting more people being asses to me for no reason other than put me down, especially when school years almost done in a few weeks, leave me alooonnee.. oh and same teachers and counselors who preach supporting students with issues as such not giving a fuck makes me mad like idc anymore if u care or not atp… just stooop lyinggg(;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`)

 

[dreamofnofuture]

It's all bring back bullying until the ppl saying it get bullied.

But anyway, I wasn't very bullied in middle school and I did have genuine friends, fortunately. The bullying and exclusion I did face, though, still sucked balls. It really does a number on self-esteem and how ur able to see ppl, including authority figures and minors.

You're not coping, imo. You're just seeing it for what it is. It doesn't build character. Nor does it stop ppl from being "weird" or "cringe." To even think that is, like you said, idiotic.

I think people say "bRiNg BaCk BuLlYiNg" and justify it so that they can be mean to people they find weird without social backlash or without feeling bad. Like, yes, it can be frustrating to see ostensibly socially unacceptable behavior or boggling to see someone post something intimately weird that you think should remain private, but bullying isn't the solution. Just mind your business, ya know? Keep scrolling, walk away. It's that simple.

I hate humanity.​

 

[tasmaka]

. The bullying and exclusion I did face, though, still sucked balls. It really does a number on self-esteem and how ur able to see ppl, including authority figures and minors.
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I really understand this tbh, since I was younger I really dont believe any authority figure truly cares for any issue, or care more than they would for a chore. I also was thinking abt the "minors" thing the other day, and its honestly kind of crazy to think that yea I was a very young child experiencing horrible things, but there was also many other young children who inflicted said things.. idk crazy to think of

 

[shaggy_dooo]

Saying to bring back some kind of harrasment is crazy cause bullying is indeed harrasment but thats people nobody is kind i can relate to what u said bc i was mocked and picked on at school many times im old and not in school anymore but back then i had to make mfs laugh so they wouldn't go hostile on me and chill tf out. Best of luck man

 

[Jadeith]

I think it's because nowadays people have wild, unprotected sex with the dictionary, changing meaning of the words left, right and center. Let's take SA as an example. First, it was reserved only for direct contact - rape, groping etc. Then unwanted attention was added - catcalling, lewd comments, that kind of shit which is still unpleasant but without direct contact. Now, even a glance towards someone can be labeled as SA. Take Door Dash Girl drama for example - guy was butt naked, and drunk into oblivion in his house, she entered the premises, took some photos and called it SA. And initially some people fell for it (!). Or look at some gym vids - "oh, he walked past my camera, what a creep, cancel his membership, he SA'd me.

Same thing happens with the word "bullying". What once was mental and/or physical torment, now also serves for anything that presumably bullied person doesn't like or doesn't approve. "Oh, you don't like my hair or clothes i wear? You bully, how dare you.". Nowadays people tend to be offended by bloody EVERYTHING and that offense if often branded as bullying. Any critique, any unfavorable comment, even avoiding contact because someone doesn't like someone else - that's all bullying now.

So, "bring back bullying" as the ability to contest or critique sth or sb without facing more or less legal backlash, name calling and labels is understandable because this "delicate snowflake" mentality definitely fucks people up, leaving them unprepared for the adult world reality. But, "bringing back bullying" as in physical or mental torture is obvious bullshit that no sane person should advocate for.

 

[dreamofnofuture]

I think it's because nowadays people have wild, unprotected sex with the dictionary, changing meaning of the words left, right and center. Let's take SA as an example. First, it was reserved only for direct contact - rape, groping etc. Then unwanted attention was added - catcalling, lewd comments, that kind of shit which is still unpleasant but without direct contact. Now, even a glance towards someone can be labeled as SA. Take Door Dash Girl drama for example - guy was butt naked, and drunk into oblivion in his house, she entered the premises, took some photos and called it SA. And initially some people fell for it (!). Or look at some gym vids - "oh, he walked past my camera, what a creep, cancel his membership, he SA'd me.

I... I really feel like most of this (Idk ab the Door Dash Girl thing, but that obviously happened as an exception, not a norm) just doesn't happen IRL. These things are just social media landscape, for the most part. Real life with no cameras and social media following don't really go like this with ppl claiming SA or sexual harassment; most times, it very much is SA or sexual harrassment, not someone throwing around a term. And you still have ppl who may not even believe them bc of rhetoric like this.
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Same thing happens with the word "bullying". What once was mental and/or physical torment, now also serves for anything that presumably bullied person doesn't like or doesn't approve. "Oh, you don't like my hair or clothes i wear? You bully, how dare you.". Nowadays people tend to be offended by bloody EVERYTHING and that offense if often branded as bullying. Any critique, any unfavorable comment, even avoiding contact because someone doesn't like someone else - that's all bullying now.​

"Any critique, any unfavorable comment, even avoiding contact because someone doesn't like someone else - that's all bullying now." That's legitimately not true. Bullying is a targeted harassment campaign, not someone disliking your hair or something. Literally most people who have been bullied wouldn't say this unless you're actively going out of your way to nitpick that person to their face or behind their back to smear their broader reputation for something harmless that you disliked about them. Ask anybody in real life, I promise you they would not say this shit.​

So, "bring back bullying" as the ability to contest or critique sth or sb without facing more or less legal backlash, name calling and labels is understandable because this "delicate snowflake" mentality definitely fucks people up, leaving them unprepared for the adult world reality. But, "bringing back bullying" as in physical or mental torture is obvious bullshit that no sane person should advocate for.

Then what are we asking to bring back? Because bullying is always physical or mental torture. "Bring back bullying" has always meant "bring back the ability to psychologically/physically torment ppl with no consequences." It's not unsolicited comments somebody likely has no business saying in the first place. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT PPL ARE ADVOCATING FOR, even if they themselves wouldn't do it. They are encouraging another person to do it, though. Just like you claimed ppl diluted the words of SA and that, you imply ppl did the same with the word "bullying."

And you always have that ability to contest or critique something. If you don't have that ability, take it up with authoritarian governments, not some random person online that you dislike. No rando on social media who says "yes, bullying shouldn't be brought back" or says any other opinion that you, the minority on that part of social media, took that away from you. But be prepared for backlash of any and all kinds, aka being prepared for the adult world reality.

If that's being a "snowflake," so be it. Bc the exact same ppl calling others snowflakes and saying "everybody's so OFFENDED nowadays" literally get offended by everything and struggle to exercise the emotional management required not to therefore be snowflakes.

Idk, none of your reply sits right with me on multiple levels. It comes off as delusional, social media brain-rotted, bitter, looking for a reason to be contrarian, not grounded in reality, and pretty harmful. This is some shit some popular kid or mean girl would say to justify themselves. But whatever. Life goes on...​

I really understand this tbh, since I was younger I really dont believe any authority figure truly cares for any issue, or care more than they would for a chore. I also was thinking abt the "minors" thing the other day, and its honestly kind of crazy to think that yea I was a very young child experiencing horrible things, but there was also many other young children who inflicted said things.. idk crazy to think of

Children being tainted by the bigotry of the adults around them... A tale as old as time

Still doesn't make me wary to be around a lot children, especially teenagers. Omg, anytime I see teenagers out and about IRL, I get a little tense. Doubly so if it looks like they look like they'd be invited to the TikTok rizz party ​

I automatically do not trust many teenagers, more so than kids tbh, bc they have the immaturity of kids and the deep-seated prejudice of adults.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

Why stop there?

Bring back chain-and-shackle slavery.
Bring back men beating women for "honor."
Bring back inbreeding to keep "blood purity."
Bring back human sacrifice.
Bring back sending 8-year-olds up chimneys to build their work ethic.
Bring back bloodletting to really test the immune system.
Bring back dying of dysentery at 30 to weed out the weak.
Bring back trepanning to let the bad air out of people's skulls.
Bring back the town stocks so we can throw rotten vegetables at people with anxiety.
Bring back public executions as a fun family Sunday outing.
Bring back debtors' prison so people learn some fiscal responsibility.
Bring back trial by ordeal: if you float, you're a witch; if you drown, you just needed more resilience.
Bring back lead makeup and lead pipes for that authentic Roman Empire aesthetic.
Bring back dueling with pistols at dawn over minor Twitter disagreements. (Actually, that one could be interesting...)
Bring back the workhouse: there's nothing like a bit of gruel to put hair on your chest.
Bring back sumptuary laws so only royalty can wear the color purple.

Funny how the people who want to "bring back bullying" never picture themselves on the receiving end of the swirlie.

 

[Jadeith]

These things are just social media landscape

Social media landscape shapes current IRL landscape. Whatever happens in there, has real repercussions in real life. People are getting arrested for what they post on social media, people are losing their jobs and livelihood in general because of social media posts and people kill themselves because of what others posted on social media. Lives get ruined because of digital activity. To say that one does not influence another is dangerously naive to say the least.

And you still have ppl who may not even believe them bc of rhetoric like this.

Kinda my point - the definition has changed and because of that victims of "real" SA do not get taken seriously since there is fuckton of wannabies who claim SA for clout, revenge or other malice.

Bullying is a targeted harassment campaign, not someone disliking your hair or something

Yes, that's the proper definition of that word. Yet, from what i observe, the word is being overused to a point it lost its aforementioned meaning. If you weren't met with such situation - i say, i'm happy for you. Unfortunately, my partner works in 2 schools and "bullying" and SA accusations are being thrown as if it was nothing. Students are using those words against each other and against teachers as well. If, as a teacher, you give one mf or another a bad grade because they failed to prepare themselves, you got strong chance that tomorrow you'll have a visit from some karen mother why are you harassing and bullying her child. No, ma'am. your kid was playing Minecraft whole last night and did not prepare themself for the test. If you try to stop the fight - that's SA lawsuit waiting to happen as teacher is not allowed to make any physical contact with pupil. And no - i did not took these from social media. For the record, i stay the fuck away from those.

Then what are we asking to bring back?

What are "we" asking? There's no "we" and i'm not asking for anything, knowing pretty well that any my "asking" has zero force in real world. I simply provided one of possible explanations to the phenomenon, or rather, one that i find that might be possible. Nothing more, nothing less.
What i would like to see (wishful thinking, i know) is the return of original definition of the words, return of common sense, not so common nowadays and i'd love to see rapid increase in consequences and their severity when it comes to false accusations and misuse of once serious labels so that real victims of those horrible circumstances get help and attention they deserve.

And you always have that ability to contest or critique something. If you don't have that ability, take it up with authoritarian governments, not some random person online that you dislike.

You are missing the point. Yes i can critique anything. Problem is that this critique, whether political or personal has strong chance of being labeled as a some form of crime by those who do not like being critiqued and i'm not talking only about government.

Idk, none of your reply sits right with me on multiple levels.

That's ok. You do not have any obligation to agree with me and my interpretations of what i observe. More, i'd be severly disappointed if my opinion went uncontested. Though i suspect that your opposition might stem form not fully understanding what i said since you decided to label it as "shit some popular kid or mean girl would say to justify themselves" and it's simply not it. That's on me and not only because english is not my prime language. I'm well aware that i'm not best with words.
Might try to explain myself better if you wish to continue and are willing not to accept but to at least try to understand other points of view.

Why stop there?

Thing is that many of these you mentioned do not need to be "brought back" They are still here, just not in your part of the world.

 

[N-methylamphetamine]

Im currently 18, still in highschool, And ive been dealing with bullying my entire life from school, starting as young as 4.

When I was younger say elementary, I was constantly bullied by everyone around me, and no adults cared, listened, or helped despite being aware. Since i was atleast 5, getting constantly picked on, harassed, and physically harmed became a normal part of my daily routine going to school which hasnt ended.

Starting in elementary, all i could understand was, this is happening because of my race, because Im too weak, and theres nothing I could do, nobody can help me.

In middle school, this constant treatment led me to believe those who inflicted it on me were really friends, its just how boys act right, its just playful? So when I had gotten in a relationship with a girl who knew this about me, Its crazy to say but I was honestly used and wasn't respected as another person. The respect thing can kinda just be super clear in how, even though it was her to "start" our relationship, she would actively seek out other relationships and partners in front of me, knowing I wouldnt do anything.. little me got cucked anyways point is bcuz of bullying, this stuff was just normalized and everyone around knew how I was, so definitely have gotten taken advantage of for being such a loser.

After middle school, all I knew was, It hardly gets better, the topics mature a bit, but Im still a pussy, and nobody will care.

Starting highschool, I actually made "friends" freshman year, but one semester in, it became clear nobody really was interested in me as a person but really just an extra person to seek validation from, not to do stuff friends would do. I had still gotten bullied alot, but its much less than before, rarely physical, small wins. Sophomore year, I made close connections with a few people, not anything too deep, but enough to get through the day not alone in every class. Going into junior year, and senior year nothing has changed , except more bullying has come back, and those friends I had are gone, or over me as a friend, people move on yk.

But I know everything is going to be over soon with graduation soon, these people will mean nothing to me, but honestly the treatment Ive received before just always comes back especially now. Alot of people seem to enjoy putting me down as a person, and out of knowing I wont do anything about it, and its made me skip alot of school since, why come?? Everyone here hates me, and if they dont, I kinda hate them for ignoring stuff right in there faces. Everyone in highschool preaches mental health, and suddenly everyone is an extremely strong advocate, but when someone like me has been around forever, its suddenly just "something that happens"? And forever Ive said my issues to people around me, my age and older, and adults, out of everyone ive ever gone to with the stuff happening, 0 have ever put a second thought into a word i have said. I could go on about how Ive been told numerous times "maybe if you said something" , "well how would I have known," , "it really isnt that serious/it builds character", but this story probably isnt new.

Online the concept, "bring bullying back" keeps catching my eye. The pros, "character building" , "some people just deserve it", and "it has unfortunately disappeared"… and the cons,… EVERYTHING???
(The pros are nonexistent and false btw, hope thats clear, just dont be an asshole)

Bullying is genuinely one of the major factors for my poor mental health, and since I had started getting bullied, I have dealt with anxiety, depression, and even the concept of suicide just because as a kid I really thought, "maybe I really do deserve it". (And honestly id like to say Ive done NOTHING like ever.. other than show up to school, genuinely mean this, because sometimes karma does exist yk. ) so the idea that bullying NEEDS to come back (*really "become more prominent) in order to improve society (SOMEHOWW) is genuinely idiotic.

"I support mental health and it needs to be talked about!"
Going to
"Bullying is needed because people just deserve it"

Makes noooo sense….

Anyways this could totally be me coping but whaateverr, im just bummed cuz ive been getting more people being asses to me for no reason other than put me down, especially when school years almost done in a few weeks, leave me alooonnee.. oh and same teachers and counselors who preach supporting students with issues as such not giving a fuck makes me mad like idc anymore if u care or not atp… just stooop lyinggg(;´༎ຶД༎ຶ`)

people who say bring back bullying are often weak ass people themselves who fold if your mean to them slightly

 

[insectontrial]

Can I just say, as a male victim of rape who often describes what happened as "SA" because it's hard to say the R-word at times - if people want to say that milder sexual offences that happened to them are SA, that is fine by me.

Coming back to the original topic of discussion, I was horrendously bullied in my childhood, not just by fellow pupils but by adult staff members too, and it's why I tried to CTB at 15. I really feel for anyone who was bullied or is going through it.

 

[Unbearable Mr. Bear]

Thing is that many of these you mentioned do not need to be "brought back" They are still here, just not in your part of the world.

Yeah, that was the punchline. I don't need to live where bad things happen to know they happen. The problem lies on people wanting these bad things to come back to where they don't happen anymore, or at least happen less.

 

[tasmaka]

So, "bring back bullying" as the ability to contest or critique sth or sb without facing more or less legal backlash, name calling and labels is understandable because this "delicate snowflake" mentality definitely fucks people up, leaving them unprepared for the adult world reality. But, "bringing back bullying" as in physical or mental torture is obvious bullshit that no sane person should advocate for.

Im definitely late to this but I see where you are coming from. In a logical world, Nobody would advocate for such behavior, but sadly thats not where we are. I get the whole thing about preparation for the "real world", but experiences to help with such wont be found in anything that can fit under "bullying". To understand how reasonable perception from others makes sense, to learn to put up with bullshit from cruel people doesn't.

But sadly the physical and intense mental torment still exists and I can advocate for it, Im not quiet sure if your point is that its unlikely or if you disagree so I apologize if Im reading into it wrong, but I hold nothing against you regardless. Just putting my two cents here lol