Be careful with the personal information you post here

[theater]

Do you know a software like this for Android? I'm lost, being trapped in a phone sucks...

Just take a screenshot of the image on you phone. Then check the data on the photo in the photos app. Then use it.

 

[Hojag]

Just take a screenshot of the image on you phone. Then check the data on the photo in the photos app. Then use it.

Photos, from Google? Or you mean gallery?

Also, thanks for answering. I was overcomplicating things!

 

[theater]

Photos, from Google? Or you mean gallery?

Also, thanks for answering. I was overcomplicating things!

Either application should be able to show you information about the photo like location, device used, date/time.

 

[cme-dme]

Do you know a software like this for Android? I'm lost, being trapped in a phone sucks...

Wondering the same thing. I purposefully ignore warnings like this bc I legit have no energy to do anything but I would like to.

Two things:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.grapheneos.camera.play
A free and open source camera app. Retains no metadata by default.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jarsilio.android.scrambledeggsif
A simple open source metadata remover.

 

[Xabin]

Tenga MUCHO cuidado con la información personal que publica aquí. Sabemos que hay personas que se registran para intentar "salvar" a otros miembros, algunos incluso son agentes de la ley. No tienen ningún problema en registrarse si creen que lo que están haciendo es lo "correcto" y no dudarán en ponerse en contacto con las fuerzas del orden si creen que usted está en peligro. Asegúrese de priorizar su privacidad en línea en estas situaciones. He leído numerosos hilos de personas que han recibido visitas de la policía y los detectives y eso es algo que no quiero que suceda.

Hemos tenido discusiones antes sobre este tema y ahora nos damos cuenta de que las imágenes publicadas aquí todavía tienen datos EXIF adjuntos (antes de actualizar, no los tenían).

Si publica imágenes de cualquier tipo, utilice un eliminador de EXIF antes de cargarlas. Trabajaré para encontrar una solución que permita eliminar los datos EXIF de las imágenes a medida que se cargan, si es posible.

La siguiente sección de nuestras reglas describe lo que puede hacer para ayudar a proteger su privacidad en la mayor medida posible:

Mi privacidad es fundamental para mí. ¿Tienes algún consejo para mí?

• No publique información personal (nombre, dirección, teléfono, correo electrónico, fotografías, etc.).
• Utilice un nombre de usuario único para cada sitio web que utilice.
• Utilice un proxy/VPN una vez que esté registrado.
• Modifique sus preferencias y opciones de privacidad a su gusto aquí.
• Utilice un proveedor de correo electrónico seguro o desechable.

La privacidad es muy importante para mí. ¿Más consejos?

• Aprenda la diferencia entre ser cuidadoso y ser paranoico.
• Evita las redes sociales y elimina tus perfiles.
• Realiza una búsqueda tú mismo o realiza una búsqueda inversa de tus imágenes y elimina todo lo que aparezca.
• No utilices Google (DuckDuckGo y Startpage son buenas alternativas).
• Cambie su DNS a uno que priorice la privacidad. Cloudflare es una alternativa rápida y decente.
• Utilice Firefox, Waterfox, Brave u Opera. Nunca Chrome.
• Configure su navegador para eliminar los datos de navegación al cerrarlo o use Tor.
• Aprenda a crear una buena contraseña y nunca utilice la misma contraseña dos veces.
• ¿Los sitios web en los que registraste cuentas hace cinco años y ya no los usas? Inicia sesión y elimínalos.
• No pongas tu nombre en tu correo electrónico (por ejemplo, [email protected] ).
• Si es posible, evite usar Windows, especialmente Windows 10: es una pesadilla para la privacidad. Sabemos que es difícil evitarlo.
• Malwarebytes es un antivirus decente, ejecútelo manualmente cada semana o dos (tiene que pagar por las comprobaciones automáticas).
• Aprenda a administrar su firewall en el sistema operativo que elija.
• Aprenda sobre EXIF en imágenes, cómo almacenan información identificable y aprenda cómo borrarla.

Hoooo diossss!!!!..... Gracias por la información. No soy un experto en informática pero esto me habré los ojos. Soy realmente ignorante respecto a casi todo lo referente a la privacidad pero me pondré las pilas para poder ir haciendo cada una de las recomendaciones que habéis sugerido. Lo de que haya policías con cuentas falsas me parece asta algo normal dentro de la sociedad en donde vivimos y que se meta gente que solo quiere proyectar sus mierdas personales para no mirarse a si mismo/a también es algo que no me sorprende. Gracias por los consejos. Me doy cuenta de que tengo que hacer algunos cambios tanto técnicos como mentales y os lo agradezco de corazón.

 

[Hojag]

Two things:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=app.grapheneos.camera.play
A free and open source camera app. Retains no metadata by default.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jarsilio.android.scrambledeggsif
A simple open source metadata remover.

Huge thanks!

 

[Johnzaga23]

is it bad to use chrome and no vpn?

 

[Winterreise]

I say we fix bayonets and take it to them

 

[cme-dme]

is it bad to use chrome and no vpn?

Google Chrome is inherently privacy violating. This is why it's not recommended. Everything you do with Chrome is sent to Google. If you want to browse this forum discreetly, use something else. Something like Brave browser or Librewolf would be better.
There is nothing inherently wrong with not using a VPN. It's an improvement to privacy but all it does is hide your real IP address. Somebody online knowing your IP is not that big of a deal in most situations.

 

[oneeyed]

A nice little tool I like using is a raspberry pi computer running "pi hole" connected to my router. Changes your dns to a more secure one for anything connected to the network. It also helps stop trackers and ads.

 

[ClownWorld2023]

Do you know a software like this for Android? I'm lost, being trapped in a phone sucks...

I don't know. I only browse this website on the computer and barely use my smartphone.

 

[NZkiwi]

I will be working to find a solution where EXIF data can be stripped from images as they are uploaded if that's possible.

Curious if this has been implemented, or if I am just bad at using the search

Many thanks

 

[EmptyBottle]

Curious if this has been implemented, or if I am just bad at using the search

Many thanks

possibly not, over a year after that post, I checked and my pics have EXIF (but no geotags, I have them disabled, so the only EXIF data available was basic camera info)

imo, disabling geotags goes a long way, because relying on manual effort = higher risk of mistakes.

 

[notthatclever]

Yeah that figures.. cops want all up in here but can't do their job to help out when it's really needed.. that's about right.. being suicidal isn't against the law.. so I'm not sure where they have any jurisdiction.. anyways if somebody comes by for a "wellness check".. just tell them you feel fine and you don't know what they're talking about and if they have further questions ask a lawyer.. they can't do anything.. all they can do is get in their car and leave.. don't answer any questions they have.. just say I have no idea what you're talking about.. and of course they're in here trying to "save us".. they're trying to save their own ass from liability.. they don't give a single shit about us.. trust me.. they think we're all "out of their league".. but they want the story to say.. well muffy muff diver.. I went on this website once and saved some people from killing themselves ahahahaa.. pass the tar tar.. aren't I such a gooood person.. they're like that dude from wedding crashers talking about fake saving deals.. everything about outsiders here would be agenda filled.. and any lawyer worth their salt would tell anybody with that vigilante mindset they're in a minefield and on very shaky ground.. and same for any psych doc worth their salt..

Listen.. a psych doc in here.. and I'm sure a few are.. I'd gather they'd just be sitting back and reading not saying much.. because they've spent their entire lives studying this very thing precisely.. they know they're in a minefield.. I'd say they're getting blown up left and right being quiet.. so yeah.. any vigilante messing around is just that.. messing around..

With some of the images of failed attempts and the rest and what people let their guards down to talk about for real here.. I'd say they're probably feeling like the twilight zone.. as they should..

But you're right.. tighten up on info that could be too revealing.. and it's always some Christian crazy that's all Yee haw Trump and I need more privacy being their nose all in yours.. sending cops your way..

Head scratcher as to why anybody might feel more violated and even further down the rabbit hole of suicide..

They all deserve their tightrope walk..

Fuck them..

 

[fadedghost]

Yeah that figures.. cops want all up in here but can't do their job to help out when it's really needed.. that's about right.. being suicidal isn't against the law.. so I'm not sure where they have any jurisdiction.. anyways if somebody comes by for a "wellness check".. just tell them you feel fine and you don't know what they're talking about and if they have further questions ask a lawyer.. they can't do anything.. all they can do is get in their car and leave.. don't answer any questions they have.. just say I have no idea what you're talking about..

This is almost certainly factually inaccurate.

A cop usually in the USA needs a warrant to break into a place to see you unless there's evidence of a severe emergency. So you can just choose to not open the door or speak with them. However, a cop can most likely use their good judgment to detain you if they think you are suicidal and many cops lie (especially undercover ones) so your statement "they can't do anything just tell them you're fine" may or may not be right.

Since cops can easily lie, and often do, as soon as you open the door, unless they have a camera on or you have a camera rolling, they can write down and make up anything. A cop can also say they heard you talking to yourself before they approached the door and say you seemed disheveled. Cops aren't like a computer program or math problem where the legal standard is X and so that's what they follow.

And with breaking down a door, that leaves visible damage that can't be denied and if no one is there or if there isn't an emergency, that can be a hassle for them potentially. Someone can complain about that and the department could potentially get sued, even though it's hard to sue police and win. On the other hand, if a police officer lies and writes down in a report "the person answered the door and said 'I have a plan to kill myself'" then there's not an easy way to prove they are lying when you are locked in involuntary care... and they had access and contact with you, and who knows what you said? Even if a cop is lying in that situation, what remedy would you have? By then you are locked up in involuntary care, multiple doctors will say you have some disorder, they always justify their expensive fees with a diagnosis, no one leaves with absolute nothing wrong... so... what then? There's no way to get back your time, your rights as a person who hasn't been involuntarily hospitalized, or the money you'll owe.

This isn't a suggestion on what someone should do in that situation. If a cop is doing a welfare check, it might be better to open the door and use it as an opportunity to get treatment (if you can afford the bills from involuntary hospitalization, which can be tens of thousands of dollars or more for a several week stay; if you have health insurance and a job, they can't easily fire you from your work usually and health insurance could pay?).

I'm not a cop and could be wrong on all of this. Where's @COP2CON when we need him?

Also being suicidal isn't against the law, but civil commitments are functionally the same as being locked up in jail but there's this weird divide between how "the system" views a civil commitment. The system believes they are doing you a favor, which is why they can collect money from you after, like potentially a huge sum.

 

[COP2CON]

This is almost certainly factually inaccurate.

A cop usually in the USA needs a warrant to break into a place to see you unless there's evidence of a severe emergency. So you can just choose to not open the door or speak with them. However, a cop can most likely use their good judgment to detain you if they think you are suicidal and many cops lie (especially undercover ones) so your statement "they can't do anything just tell them you're fine" may or may not be right.

Since cops can easily lie, and often do, as soon as you open the door, unless they have a camera on or you have a camera rolling, they can write down and make up anything. A cop can also say they heard you talking to yourself before they approached the door and say you seemed disheveled. Cops aren't like a computer program or math problem where the legal standard is X and so that's what they follow.

And with breaking down a door, that leaves visible damage that can't be denied and if no one is there or if there isn't an emergency, that can be a hassle for them potentially. Someone can complain about that and the department could potentially get sued, even though it's hard to sue police and win. On the other hand, if a police officer lies and writes down in a report "the person answered the door and said 'I have a plan to kill myself'" then there's not an easy way to prove they are lying when you are locked in involuntary care... and they had access and contact with you, and who knows what you said? Even if a cop is lying in that situation, what remedy would you have? By then you are locked up in involuntary care, multiple doctors will say you have some disorder, they always justify their expensive fees with a diagnosis, no one leaves with absolute nothing wrong... so... what then? There's no way to get back your time, your rights as a person who hasn't been involuntarily hospitalized, or the money you'll owe.

This isn't a suggestion on what someone should do in that situation. If a cop is doing a welfare check, it might be better to open the door and use it as an opportunity to get treatment (if you can afford the bills from involuntary hospitalization, which can be tens of thousands of dollars or more for a several week stay; if you have health insurance and a job, they can't easily fire you from your work usually and health insurance could pay?).

I'm not a cop and could be wrong on all of this. Where's @COP2CON when we need him?

Also being suicidal isn't against the law, but civil commitments are functionally the same as being locked up in jail but there's this weird divide between how "the system" views a civil commitment. The system believes they are doing you a favor, which is why they can collect money from you after, like potentially a huge sum.

*A wild COP2CON appears*

Soooooooo yeah. I glanced over the thread and I think it would be better for me to just do my own thread regarding this. There's more to say than a simple response to this would cover. A quick answer is that while yes you can shut the door in LE's face, there are legal vehicles they can employ to take you in for treatment regardless. Like I said, a lot can be said here so Ill do my best to have a thread shortly covering the basics.

 

[fadedghost]

*A wild COP2CON appears*

Soooooooo yeah. I glanced over the thread and I think it would be better for me to just do my own thread regarding this. There's more to say than a simple response to this would cover. A quick answer is that while yes you can shut the door in LE's face, there are legal vehicles they can employ to take you in for treatment regardless. Like I said, a lot can be said here so Ill do my best to have a thread shortly covering the basics.

And if you don't shut the door but merely refuse to answer and they can't even determine if someone is there? I'm interested in reading this thread...

 

[COP2CON]

And if you don't shut the door but merely refuse to answer and they can't even determine if someone is there? I'm interested in reading this thread...

I'll put it in there but just so you won't have to be super curious....it would depend on jurisdiction/agency. Ultimately there MIGHT be an exigent circumstance warranting an entry without a search warrant. Some places will try it, others may try to secure a search warrant, or in the case of the places I worked we simply did a report and left. I can say how it can be done but ultimately it would be up to responding LE how they would handle it. Most of the time as long as its articulated right, qualified immunity applies so LE is covered if it goes south.

 

[fadedghost]

I'll put it in there but just so you won't have to be super curious....it would depend on jurisdiction/agency. Ultimately there MIGHT be an exigent circumstance warranting an entry without a search warrant. Some places will try it, others may try to secure a search warrant, or in the case of the places I worked we simply did a report and left. I can say how it can be done but ultimately it would be up to responding LE how they would handle it. Most of the time as long as its articulated right, qualified immunity applies so LE is covered if it goes south.

it's true, but in a welfare check with no report of imminent harm, just concern, does law enforcement usually break down doors? no.

but if they hear you talking and you refuse to answer the door, then it's different, or if you yell from the door "i'm not talking to you!" it's different and if you open up and talk to a cop, it's very different.

how many times did you go to do a welfare check and no one responded at all, whatsoever, and then you broke down the door? unless a cop suspects someone is dead, like family reporting that they haven't seen a person in weeks as expected or a neighbor complaining about a bad smell and worried about an elderly person being dead, does it happen?

most cops are adrenaline junkies and hate paperwork. what happens if it's silent and a door is broken: lots of paperwork explaining why a cop broke down a perfectly good door. what cop wants to do that? plus immunity covers almost everything... but does a cop want to risk the exceptions? without a warrant?

 

[COP2CON]

it's true, but in a welfare check with no report of imminent harm, just concern, does law enforcement usually break down doors? no.

but if they hear you talking and you refuse to answer the door, then it's different, or if you yell from the door "i'm not talking to you!" it's different and if you open up and talk to a cop, it's very different.

how many times did you go to do a welfare check and no one responded at all, whatsoever, and then you broke down the door? unless a cop suspects someone is dead, like family reporting that they haven't seen a person in weeks as expected or a neighbor complaining about a bad smell and worried about an elderly person being dead, does it happen?

most cops are adrenaline junkies and hate paperwork. what happens if it's silent and a door is broken: lots of paperwork explaining why a cop broke down a perfectly good door. what cop wants to do that? plus immunity covers almost everything... but does a cop want to risk the exceptions? without a warrant?

This is why I'm working on a thread. There's a lot of info regarding this and its hard to explain because of all the "one offs" that can be present.

The simple answer for now is if there is no response and no credible information someone is inside a residence and there is no involuntary commitment paperwork and there is no independently substantiated information someone has come or is about to come to harm then no, entry will not be made.

Your 100% correct that most don't want to do the paperwork but the difference between a report for a welfare check and a welfare check where you kicked down a door is one sentence in the narrative saying you forced entry for whatever reason and usually a photo is taken of the door. Its almost no additional paperwork unless the agency is stupid and considers it a use of force but even then, that's like 5 extra minutes of paperwork.

Its simply easier (even just alittle bit) to just document you tried to make contact and you couldn't. Again, I'm actively working on a thread. The internet is coming in burst for me tonight but I'm hoping to post it by tomorrow if everything goes ok.

 

[fadedghost]

This is why I'm working on a thread. There's a lot of info regarding this and its hard to explain because of all the "one offs" that can be present.

The simple answer for now is if there is no response and no credible information someone is inside a residence and there is no involuntary commitment paperwork and there is no independently substantiated information someone has come or is about to come to harm then no, entry will not be made.

Your 100% correct that most don't want to do the paperwork but the difference between a report for a welfare check and a welfare check where you kicked down a door is one sentence in the narrative saying you forced entry for whatever reason and usually a photo is taken of the door. Its almost no additional paperwork unless the agency is stupid and considers it a use of force but even then, that's like 5 extra minutes of paperwork.

Its simply easier (even just alittle bit) to just document you tried to make contact and you couldn't. Again, I'm actively working on a thread. The internet is coming in burst for me tonight but I'm hoping to post it by tomorrow if everything goes ok.

if cops liked an extra 1-3 minutes of paperwork, they would have become accountants or gone into insurance billing. 1-3 minutes of extra paperwork is a huge disincentive for a cop.

most cops take the path of least resistance. beyond that, if no one is at home, breaking down a door is a genuinely shitty thing to do, so between the moral ambiguity and 1-3 minutes of extra paperwork, my guess is less than 1/1000 welfare checks with no answer results in a broken door, unless someone is suspected of being already dead.

unless a cop actually has cause, it's technically also a violation of someone's rights... so put that all together, it's pretty hard to nab a suicidal person who isn't coming to the door. plus, does a cop really want to break down the door with a possibly unstable person inside who is being quiet? seems risky.

no, cops do not break down doors in that situation except in very unusual circumstances, or at least that's my guess.