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Back up plan if I vomit the SN?
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The guidelines say just have a 2nd or 3rd cup ready, but if you violently vomit out the 1st cup, it makes sense there's no way in hell your stomach wouldn't do the same with the 2nd attempt. Any ideas on a backup plan if you vomit? If I do this, I need it to be 100% successful one way or the other.
For all its worth, sn is absorbed within your small intestine (not your stomach!) and liquids pass pretty quickly through your stomach so (if you fasted around 8h) you should only have to wait 10min before a significant sn absorption so try your best to keep it down/delay vomitting for 10min and you should be good to go even if you throw up afterwards
There's also a good thread showing we don't actually have any data proving that vomitting is a cause of failure. Most failures are due to not using actual sn/not drinking it all/getting medical attention. So, blood test, finish your glass, don't get found.
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For all its worth, sn is absorbed within your small intestine (not your stomach!) and liquids pass pretty quickly through your stomach so (if you fasted around 8h) you should only have to wait 10min before a significant sn absorption so try your best to keep it down/delay vomitting for 10min and you should be good to go even if you throw up afterwards
There's also a good thread showing we don't actually have any data proving that vomitting is a cause of failure. Most failures are due to not using actual sn/not drinking it all/getting medical attention. So, blood test, finish your glass, don't get found.
So basically the recommended amount is overkill for a reason. The reason being is if you do throw up there will still be enough in your system to complete the task. The estimated lethal amount to humans is 3 to 5 grams. So even if you do throw up 20 of the 25 grams you've taken there's still enough in your system to have desired effects. A second glass is always recommended just for good measure.
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So basically the recommended amount is overkill for a reason. The reason being is if you do throw up there will still be enough in your system to complete the task. The estimated lethal amount to humans is 3 to 5 grams. So even if you do throw up 20 of the 25 grams you've taken there's still enough in your system to have desired effects. A second glass is always recommended just for good measure.
I'm feeling better reading this. Thank you. I'll have plenty to ctb with and it says 99% pure so I think I'll be good. Maybe I'll post on here when I do ctb.
So basically the recommended amount is overkill for a reason. The reason being is if you do throw up there will still be enough in your system to complete the task. The estimated lethal amount to humans is 3 to 5 grams. So even if you do throw up 20 of the 25 grams you've taken there's still enough in your system to have desired effects. A second glass is always recommended just for good measure.
The guidelines say just have a 2nd or 3rd cup ready, but if you violently vomit out the 1st cup, it makes sense there's no way in hell your stomach wouldn't do the same with the 2nd attempt. Any ideas on a backup plan if you vomit? If I do this, I need it to be 100% successful one way or the other.
There is literally no way to 100% guarantee any method or we would all be exiting that way. The good news is based on new information, it seems as though 25gms may not be the required dosage required to ctb , it could be a lot lower. So if you used a lower dosage the chances of vomitting are lower. Some still do pass after vomitting and some do not. It all depends on the person and how/if their stomach is able to tolerate the SN regardless of what AE you take prior. So everything is subjective and unless you jump from 50 floors up (and there have been cases of that failing as well) you can never guarantee ahead of time that you will succeed.
IF you start to vomit more than once, then make yourself vomit even more to get the rest out and abandon the attempt. You will be no worse for wear in a day and no long term issues so nobody would even know you attempted. Good Luck
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Yes, I agree. And to ensure success. Antiemetics are essential for internally maintaining the full amount. And even then there are many cases of the inability to do so. As long as your body maintains the estimated lethal dose after the fact, there shouldn't be an issue.
I genuinely don't know the amount in spoons tho i think this has been answered yet, but it can be a bit risky to gamble on measurements. Maybe safer to buy a food scale if you can
For AE i'm gonna try out meclizine tho i'm not sure it'll do much, but i don't believe AE to be that important anyway
Overall the number of people who end up with bad SN does seem quite low, compared to the huge amount of successes. And even in that small group, it seems to me like it isn't usually a case of scamming; there are occasional cases where one person gets a batch that looks weird or has a strange consistency, even though the brand is known to be genuine and has worked for many others. That could be something that went wrong in the manufacturing process, during packing, transport, or storage, or any other kind of error, just like what can happen with any other item. But for the most part by far, the commonly-used brands are consistent with their quality.
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I genuinely don't know the amount in spoons tho i think this has been answered yet, but it can be a bit risky to gamble on measurements. Maybe safer to buy a food scale if you can
For AE i'm gonna try out meclizine tho i'm not sure it'll do much, but i don't believe AE to be that important anyway
Have you looked at any videos on nde's- near death experiences- to see what may happen next? Some have religious parts to them and some don't, so they're not all the same at all.
Have you looked at any videos on nde's- near death experiences- to see what may happen next? Some have religious parts to them and some don't, so they're not all the same at all.
I haven't seen them, imo during nde the brain is giving up on you so to avoid you any additional distress it'll tend to show you whatever you want to see (light, flower field, loved ones...) but i heard there are some weird reports too tho i've never looked it up
I really don't mind if you have more questions but if it's unrelated to this thread feel free to dm me as to not crowd this place with things outside of its purpose
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