Method Any successful attempts by SWB (Shallow Water Blackout)

[csdfghjjk_user]

I read the mega tread (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/shallow-water-blackout.4315/) but it is closed for any replies/questions and I have not seen anyone "successfully" attempting it. Any experience on this method? It seems too good to be true and could be ruled as an accident.

And as I understand, hyperventilating is necessary for blackout and painless drowning. If you gain unconsciousness otherwise and drown, would that also be painless? It seems it makes most sense in a large body of water, eg a lake. And at a time and place where no one can come for rescue. I wouldn't want to attach weights to myself but also don't understand how I'd stay underwater otherwise(?).

I am happy to be pointed to some more sources, thank you

 

[four_walls_girl]

I dunno about successful attempts but I tried testing out blacking out by hyperventilating for like 5-10 minutes straight for a full hour and each time I could just not get it right for some reason, got dizzy but never blacked out. It's a method I really want to do though cause you only need water and that's it :/

I think it only works if you're too exhausted to wake back up or to move if you do, but then it wouldn't exactly be painless drowning if you're awake to feel it.

 

[csdfghjjk_user]

Yes, exactly! If I wake up I'd prob just resurface.

I have not tried hyperventilating yet, but obv it's the first step to get it right. It feels a little like there are too many variables. I have never blacked out, not even with alcohol.

 

[madcowz]

It's on my plan to try it out, I'll do it tonight and let u know how it goes!

 

[RoseGirl]

It's on my plan to try it out, I'll do it tonight and let u know how it goes!

Or not depending on how successful u r?

 

[madcowz]

Or not depending on how successful u r?

LOL yes

 

[Intoxicated]

I dunno about successful attempts but I tried testing out blacking out by hyperventilating for like 5-10 minutes straight for a full hour and each time I could just not get it right for some reason, got dizzy but never blacked out.

Producing the blackout by hyperventilation is not how the SWB method is supposed to work. In the ideal scenario, the blackout occurs when you hold your breath long enough to induce hypoxia sufficient for fainting, without feeling strong urge to breathe. Hyperventilation helps you to hold your breath without the urge to breathe longer than usually, but the extended time of comfortable breath holding often remains insufficient for achieving loss of consciousness nevertheless.

 

[csdfghjjk_user]

So that's why this method doesn't work? Bc you could make yourself pass out from hyperventilating but it's not the same as passing out from holding your breath and have a peaceful death?

 

[Intoxicated]

So that's why this method doesn't work? Bc you could make yourself pass out from hyperventilating but it's not the same as passing out from holding your breath and have a peaceful death?

I explained how it works in this recent discussion about SWB

Is shallow water blackout really possible in a bathtub?

This is my most preferred suicide method but I’m unsure if I need a huge body of water, or if I can do it at home.

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[csdfghjjk_user]

Thank you.

This seems v hard indeed

 

[csdfghjjk_user]

It's on my plan to try it out, I'll do it tonight and let u know how it goes!

 

[Mircea]

If anyone was successful, they wouldn't return to post about it. This will likely be how I go... technically it won't be in shallow water, but on shore none the less. If it comes down to it, a weight and water above head level would be involved so failure isn't an option: The question is how much one can reduce the number of seconds in which they have to deal with a strong urge to breathe and likely swallow salt water through the nose while attempting to do so.



Best I can offer is this method which I'm practicing periodically... for a few reasons, let's just say it's something I want to master. Even the Wim Hof Method won't induce a blackout, but a few times it got me close enough that I couldn't sit upright even on a chair and started uncontrollably shaking a little, very brief effects that lasted a few seconds till breathing back in but it was definitely interesting.

 

[Kali_Yuga13]

To me this method borders on satire due it's implausibility but not impossibility. My take on it is if you're imprisoned in a dungeon with bowl of water it may be worth a try. In grade school people played the "knockout game" where you hyperventilate and then the other person gives you a bear hug from behind and compresses your chest resulting in passing out for a short amount of time. A very short amount of time being 10-20 seconds. So with this you self-induce passing out and immediately fall into water so when your breath reflex kicks in you take in water and start drowning.

The warning in the info graph is geared toward lap swimmers and spear fishers that engage in repetitive breath holds fully submerged in water. The designation for "shallow" is misleading. Shallow for a spear fisher could be 10-20 feet. A clean transition from passing out to drowning in a bathtub sounds very unlikely. The body will thrash around for air in the same way a fish does when out of water. Maybe if someone does it on a dock and tips into water it would work but in a bathtub it will more likely end up with some lumps on your head and bruising than death.

 

[Intoxicated]

A clean transition from passing out to drowning in a bathtub sounds very unlikely. The body will thrash around for air in the same way a fish does when out of water. Maybe if someone does it on a dock and tips into water it would work but in a bathtub it will more likely end up with some lumps on your head and bruising than death.

Can you provide any evidences supporting those claims?

Drowning usually occurs in a rapid fashion and is most often silent. Individuals who thrash wildly in water while drowning are rare. In most cases, a motionless individual floating in water who rapidly disappears beneath the surface is the classic scenario.

Source:

Drowning: Clinical Management - StatPearls - NCBI Bookshelf

Note that even those cases where people "thrash wildly in water" are likely related to conscious behavior. Making any somewhat fast movements in water is not easy because of the strong resistance they inevitably meet there. Should any involuntary convulsions occur, they will be significantly dampened by water.

 

[Kali_Yuga13]

Can you provide any evidences supporting those claims?

I'm not sure what you're looking for with this question. I doubt there's a scientific study on the SWB as it pertains to suicide in extremely shallow water. My experience is playing the blackout game and learning to swim.

Note that even those cases where people "thrash wildly in water" are likely related to conscious behavior. Making any somewhat fast movements in water is not easy because of the strong resistance they inevitably meet there. Should any involuntary convulsions occur, they will be significantly dampened by water.

I agree to some extent regarding thrashing. It's people that can't swim that tend to thrash around before inhaling water and sinking. But I don't think a bathtub contains a significant enough amount of water to provide the "strong resistance" for this method. In theory if a person was on their back in a bathtub and hyperventilated + passed out, head fell back into the water and their first involuntary breath was all water this may have a chance. Or if they were on their knees in the bathtub and did the same thing and fell face first it could work. But just because something could work in theory doesn't mean it will in execution. The method relies on a seamless transition from the blackout state to drowning in a depth of water that doesn't provide full submersion. Possible but not probable in my opinion. I'm not an expert and don't claim to be.