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EuclidianMisery

EuclidianMisery

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Jun 16, 2026
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Short story; I attempted to become a writer around three years ago and produced two books. Was finished with third draft and in the middle of editing it. Couldn't finish it, decided to share it with AI and both models tore it to shreds. Got angry, threw my flashdrive against the wall and swore to never become a writer again.

There, that's the story.

I know pathetic. But I'm not a normal person and what can I do when I've been writing for so long only to then be reminded I'll never get better no matter how hard I tried? I attempted to reach out to writer's forum and they went all 'JUST READ MORE'. Attempted with Reddit and was full of assheads. Attempted again and again until I just gave up.

Now I'm stuck and got suicidal ideation.

Great!

Anyways,
Am I completely valid for wanting to end my life for failing to achieve my dreams?
 
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memo

Member
Nov 18, 2025
16
I wouldn't base your skill level on AIs input, computers can't even begin to appreciate good writing for what it is, share your work with real people who enjoy reading the kind of things you wrote at least
 
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JeyJeyOfJeypore

Member
Jun 4, 2026
339
Short story; I attempted to become a writer around three years ago and produced two books. Was finished with third draft and in the middle of editing it. Couldn't finish it, decided to share it with AI and both models tore it to shreds. Got angry, threw my flashdrive against the wall and swore to never become a writer again.

There, that's the story.

I know pathetic. But I'm not a normal person and what can I do when I've been writing for so long only to then be reminded I'll never get better no matter how hard I tried? I attempted to reach out to writer's forum and they went all 'JUST READ MORE'. Attempted with Reddit and was full of assheads. Attempted again and again until I just gave up.

Now I'm stuck and got suicidal ideation.

Great!

Anyways,
Am I completely valid for wanting to end my life for failing to achieve my dreams?
never knew writers block could be so deadly

Why not write about how a writer killed himself? I mean theres one about a salesman isnt there?
 
EuclidianMisery

EuclidianMisery

Member
Jun 16, 2026
28
I wouldn't base your skill level on AIs input, computers can't even begin to appreciate good writing for what it is, share your work with real people who enjoy reading the kind of things you wrote at least
Problem is that its really hard to get people to read my stuff.
The fault mostly lies on my head for not finding the right audience and not knowing how to market said books.
But its still a crappy feeling nonetheless and using machines is like drugs in that its the easiest route to dopamine and one rife with negative side effects.
Also my rage against myself was partially fueled by my spectrum disorders. I know stereotypical but when there's no support networks what can a person do during a moment of genuine rage?
 
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Tomorrow Is Today

Tomorrow Is Today

don’t get any big ideas
May 16, 2026
83
Hey there. I don't think it's invalid to want to commit suicide because of failed dreams. Sometimes the world can be harsh and pursuing certain goals can be impossible. It's natural that we may not be able to reconcile our ideals with reality in that way, and it will certainly bring a lot of dissatisfaction and misery.

However, the decision is yours in the end. We can never tell whether things will work out in the end for us. If you deem that this is where you cut your losses, it's just as valid as continuing to pursue your dreams with no guarantees.

I for one think that there's some form of beauty in us stubbornly upholding our ideals against circumstances that only seem to push back. Maybe it's blind hope, but continuing to fight without the comfort of destiny can be one way. If the pain becomes too overbearing, no one has the right to hold it against you if you choose to exit as well.

Wishing you the best.
 
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coolcow1289

coolcow1289

Student
Mar 17, 2026
155
What was your dream? Nobody reads anymore. Nobody does anything anymore. The books that become popular are slop. And you let a robot critique art that YOU created and that mattered to you. Robots can't feel human emotions. You should have put the clanker back in its place

Did you like the book? Did you think you did a good job? That's what matters, really. Screw everyone else and ESPECIALLY screw AI
 
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Seneca65AD

Experienced
Oct 28, 2025
253
Normally I would not comment but since you specifically asked.....No, I don't believe it is valid to want to commit suicide because of a failed writing career after only 3 years. Talk to me after 30 years of failures and then we'll compare notes. I don't mean to make light of your situation because I've been there but hindsight gives me some perspective.

Check out Madeliene L'Engle (A Wrinkle in Time) - over 40 publishers said No because it dealt with theology and quantum mechanics; Stephen King had to replace a stick-pin with a spike to carry the weight of the rejection letters he stuck on his wall - that was until he wrote Carrie. Look at Theodore Geisel, L.M. Montgomery, J.K. Rowling....and I could go on.

If I had to pick a writer to be my spirit animal, it would be Charles Bukowski. Hell, he became so disillusioned with the writing process that he stopped writing altogether and went on a "ten year drunk" - his words. He barely made a living writing and even worked at the post-office but he said it was driving him crazy. He had to make a decision...stay and go crazy, or leave, write and starve. He said he might as well starve.

So, if you want to make a living as a writer, then you probably have to go for the teen fantasy, romance, Twilight type of genre. But if you want to be a writer, then follow your gut and keep doing what you are doing. Play to your strengths. Mentally prepare for rejection after rejection. But keep writing.....if you have a lousy job to keep the lights on, okay, but keep writing when you get home. Join a writing club and see who gets the best/most rejections. Even try National Novel Writing Month - (NaNoWriMo). But just keep writing.

And AI? AI will never replicate the creativity, feeling and just plain depth of human writers. AI is great for applying rigid formulaic rules to writing. Be yourself and write what you want. Be authentic and you will never have to apologize for anything you create. Cormac McCarthy barely uses grammar in The Road. Bret Easton Ellis is the "mother" of run-on sentences. I can't even begin to describe House of Leaves by Mark Danielewski.

It really comes down to what you want? Success or authenticity? Sometimes the 2 will intersect but in my experience it takes more than 3 years - sometimes decades - to achieve that intersection. I wish you the best, and I just know you have some amazing literary creations inside you....
 
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LostHighway

Student
May 5, 2025
125
Short story; I attempted to become a writer around three years ago and produced two books. Was finished with third draft and in the middle of editing it. Couldn't finish it, decided to share it with AI and both models tore it to shreds. Got angry, threw my flashdrive against the wall and swore to never become a writer again.

There, that's the story.

I know pathetic. But I'm not a normal person and what can I do when I've been writing for so long only to then be reminded I'll never get better no matter how hard I tried? I attempted to reach out to writer's forum and they went all 'JUST READ MORE'. Attempted with Reddit and was full of assheads. Attempted again and again until I just gave up.

Now I'm stuck and got suicidal ideation.

Great!

Anyways,
Am I completely valid for wanting to end my life for failing to achieve my dreams?
Writing is HARD!!! It takes YEARS for most people to become good writers. Screw AI!!! Learn from the critiquebut don't take anything it says personally. It is not human. Join local groups with supportive, kind people who you can share your writing with. They can give you constructive criticism and encourage you when they like what you've written. Also, there are some groups on Facebook for writers.

PLEASE don't end your life over this. So many artists, musicians and writers of all kinds struggle with their art. Start with short stories. Read about the craft of writing. Read books and try to notice how your favorite writers build plots, develop characters, reveal surprises and twists, use humor and drama, etc. Take classes. What. do you like writing? What types of stories? Tell me more about what you like writing and reading, okay?
 
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EuclidianMisery

EuclidianMisery

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Jun 16, 2026
28
Writing is HARD!!! It takes YEARS for most people to become good writers. Screw AI!!! Learn from the critiquebut don't take anything it says personally. It is not human. Join local groups with supportive, kind people who you can share your writing with. They can give you constructive criticism and encourage you when they like what you've written. Also, there are some groups on Facebook for writers.

PLEASE don't end your life over this. So many artists, musicians and writers of all kinds struggle with their art. Start with short stories. Read about the craft of writing. Read books and try to notice how your favorite writers build plots, develop characters, reveal surprises and twists, use humor and drama, etc. Take classes. What. do you like writing? What types of stories? Tell me more about what you like writing and reading, okay?
I'm autistic so I can't talk normally to people. I tried writing forums and that ended up in disaster.
If I can't achieve my dreams then what am I good for? Just to pay into a system that hates me? Wishes I was dead and yet pretend to care?

Not sure if this is depression, autism or maybe psychosis talking. But its raw and honest as it gets.

I liked writing cause I thought it was the only thing I was good at. The entire endeavor was an ego-trip born out of a legitmate situation of despair. You see, i was forced into Special Education at the tender age of 6-7, without diagnoses and cause I couldn't sit still. Mind you this was in the middle of bum-fuck nowhere Utah, so the resources they had were "Just force them to repeat the third grade until they graduate". A
And so I did. With multiple suicide attempts. Intense episodes of depression. Self-harm sessions.
No friends. The freak of the school. Silent in my own head yet treated as if I'm the problem.
All the fucking way through. Until one day we had our very first writing assingment.
First, as in junior year of High School.
Look at an image and tell me what you see?
It was of a cityscape in the dead of night and full lights.
Pretty lights. Concrete forest. Vast black sea of boundless potential despite the darkness.
A chance in chaos to become something better.
I wrote my bullshit assingment in fancy prose, inspired by some author I really liked.
And my teacher really loved it and gave my very first academic compliment.
"You're such a really good writer."
And that was the started of my addiction.
To pen and paper.
Like needle to pale flesh.
Rant done for now. Sorry if I sound hostile.
I'm just so lonely and needing to get things off my chest.
So thank you for reading this.
 
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JeyJeyOfJeypore

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Jun 4, 2026
339
What was your dream? Nobody reads anymore. Nobody does anything anymore. The books that become popular are slop. And you let a robot critique art that YOU created and that mattered to you. Robots can't feel human emotions. You should have put the clanker back in its place

Did you like the book? Did you think you did a good job? That's what matters, really. Screw everyone else and ESPECIALLY screw AI
Write about a depressed cat, basically garfields depressed cousin, that says all this

And ppl still read, you guys read walls of text just fine all the time
 
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LostHighway

Student
May 5, 2025
125
I'm autistic so I can't talk normally to people. I tried writing forums and that ended up in disaster.
If I can't achieve my dreams then what am I good for? Just to pay into a system that hates me? Wishes I was dead and yet pretend to care?

Not sure if this is depression, autism or maybe psychosis talking. But its raw and honest as it gets.

I liked writing cause I thought it was the only thing I was good at. The entire endeavor was an ego-trip born out of a legitmate situation of despair. You see, i was forced into Special Education at the tender age of 6-7, without diagnoses and cause I couldn't sit still. Mind you this was in the middle of bum-fuck nowhere Utah, so the resources they had were "Just force them to repeat the third grade until they graduate". A
And so I did. With multiple suicide attempts. Intense episodes of depression. Self-harm sessions.
No friends. The freak of the school. Silent in my own head yet treated as if I'm the problem.
All the fucking way through. Until one day we had our very first writing assingment.
First, as in junior year of High School.
Look at an image and tell me what you see?
It was of a cityscape in the dead of night and full lights.
Pretty lights. Concrete forest. Vast black sea of boundless potential despite the darkness.
A chance in chaos to become something better.
I wrote my bullshit assingment in fancy prose, inspired by some author I really liked.
And my teacher really loved it and gave my very first academic compliment.
"You're such a really good writer."
And that was the started of my addiction.
To pen and paper.
Like needle to pale flesh.
Rant done for now. Sorry if I sound hostile.
I'm just so lonely and needing to get things off my chest.
So thank you for reading this.
Do you still live in bum-fuck nowhere? Is there an autistic community near you where you can meet in person? Is there a job you can do or a skill you can learn so you can be employed? That might help with your self esteem. You've only been writing for a few years, right? And it was AI that critiqued your work? Writing is a difficult skill that you have to learn and develop. Just because you may not be good at it now, doesn't mean you can't be. There are so many online resources that can help you learn. Find writing prompts.

I like what you wrote about the city. Your teacher saw raw talent in you. That's great. Now go on and develop your skill. Try to enjoy the process. And do read - all types of authors. Start with short stories, or poems or essays about alienation. Write what you know. Being autistic in some small town in Utah can't be easy. Write about it, and expand on your prose about the big dark mysterious city.

It kills me that you were put in Special Ed and basically forgotten about for years. I've been doing a lot of research about nonverbal severe Autistics who have learned to spell using letter boards. They have such rich inner lives, but were treated like they had the mental capacity of kindergarteners. Anyway, I'm glad you're out of school now. You're a smart, creative person. I can tell by your writing.

I tried to write. It was too hard for me. I give up on everything I do. I don't know how to change this about myself. So, I know it can be hard for you to change. Maybe you can get on antidepressants or something to help with your severe depression. Do you have any friends? If not, how can you go about meeting people? Is your family supportive?
Short story; I attempted to become a writer around three years ago and produced two books. Was finished with third draft and in the middle of editing it. Couldn't finish it, decided to share it with AI and both models tore it to shreds. Got angry, threw my flashdrive against the wall and swore to never become a writer again.

There, that's the story.

I know pathetic. But I'm not a normal person and what can I do when I've been writing for so long only to then be reminded I'll never get better no matter how hard I tried? I attempted to reach out to writer's forum and they went all 'JUST READ MORE'. Attempted with Reddit and was full of assheads. Attempted again and again until I just gave up.

Now I'm stuck and got suicidal ideation.

Great!

Anyways,
Am I completely valid for wanting to end my life for failing to achieve my dreams?
It's me again, LostHighway. Here are some things to look at when you get a chance:

Some Youtube videos

My Favourite Creative Writing Exercise of All Time

Characters A and B talk about what character C thinks about character D.


5 Creative Writing Exercises from Famous Authors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToB6qr_U9Bk

I tried Nelson's 9 Steps for Story Writing (and it's brilliant)


Creative Writing 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRBhZpdnAa8

Step 1 to Story Writing: How to Brainstorm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay_j7Vm5ZTc

The #1 Fix to Write Engaging Prose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gofh_z438qA


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Here are some writing prompts:


https://reedsy.com/creative-writing-prompts/

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Here are a couple good Facebook writing groups. There are other writing groups as well

Writers helping writers

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1976705469192270

The Creative Writing Club
https://www.facebook.com/groups/898672433567624
 
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Forever Sleep

Earned it we have...
May 4, 2022
15,704
Personally, I think we feel however we feel. It's not all that easy to just not let something important to us- bother us. Obviously, it's not ideal but then- it isn't ideal for anyone to feel suicidal.

I can absolutely relate to how you feel. I think maybe the bigger problem/ fault is in putting so much of our value/ purpose on a creative goal in the first place. Which- I also did. But then, most creative people are know are obsessive. I think it actually requires an obsessive streak to pursue- given that it takes so much time and effort and- given that there likely will be rejections and set backs along the way.

But, my own most intense periods of ideation have accompanied periods where I was failing to get my creative career started, failing doing it or now- not finding it as fulfilling. I'm also lost without it- it's so much of who I am. I don't particularly care if other people don't understand that. It's my reality and it was one that also helped me for decades so- it's hard to shift now.

Plus, I don't think it's necessarily our fault that we may have become fixated on something. For me- it became my coping mechanism from a young age. I doubt I would have survived that period without it.

Ultimately though, it comes down to what we're willing to do, I think. I tend to agree with others- I wouldn't rely on AI for accurate opinions. I find it weird that it was so critical to begin with. I don't use AI myself- where I can avoid it but- I thought it was more of a 'yes man'. I got the impression it was more kind and supportive- rather than cruel and berating. Did you ask it to give you a negative critique? In which case- how accurate even is that? It did what you asked it to do. Did it not give you both positive and negative feedback? Is it that you are focussing on the negative?

For me personally- I've had multiple setbacks during my creative 'career'. Some very nearly made me quit and- they absolutely fuelled how suicidal I felt. Ultimately though, I think I knew I couldn't survive without being creative. That was even more intolerable so- one way or another, I found a way to keep going. I hope you can also. But personally- I don't think it's unreasonable to have suicidal feelings over losing our hopes/ dreams/ sense of self.
 
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SASU-KE

SASU-KE

How I get up when I hear the alarm ↑
Nov 26, 2025
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There are many people who love certain things in life more than life itself. It's not strange at all that you'd want to end it if you can't do the thing that you love most. your reason is very much valid.
 
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Lost in a Dream

Lost in a Dream

He/him - Metal head
Feb 22, 2020
1,939
So thank you for reading this.

I don't know about the next person who replies but I genuinely think your rant itself is very well-written and descriptive. If you genuinely want to end your life I won't try to talk you out of it or stop you, but as someone who enjoys creative writing myself, perhaps I could take a look at some of your writing and see if there's some way I can help, that way you don't feel like exiting life is the ONLY option you have.
 
3spiral

3spiral

the zigzagooner
Apr 22, 2026
116
i dont believe theres any valid or invalid reason to be suicidal. if you're having these thoughts then they're already valid just because they exist. don't listen to that person saying they wish they had your problems if they were you they would be feeling the same thing

in the end if you die it doesn't matter if it's valid or not, it matters that you are dead. and right now the fact is that you're living with suicidal ideation so there's no point in denying that or not giving it attention just because you don't think its "valid". "valid" or "invalid" are a completely made up things afterall and if anyone ever judges you because of that they're just an asshole<3
 
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EuclidianMisery

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Jun 16, 2026
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i dont believe theres any valid or invalid reason to be suicidal. if you're having these thoughts then they're already valid just because they exist. don't listen to that person saying they wish they had your problems if they were you they would be feeling the same thing

in the end if you die it doesn't matter if it's valid or not, it matters that you are dead. and right now the fact is that you're living with suicidal ideation so there's no point in denying that or not giving it attention just because you don't think its "valid". "valid" or "invalid" are a completely made up things afterall and if anyone ever judges you because of that they're just an asshole<3
Thank you. These words mean a lot to me.
I'm so sick and tired of being gaslight into thinking I need a 'good-enough' reason to kill myself.
Its like I need to be broken, stuck in crippling debt or just so fucking sad.
Failing to achieve a dream is one of the worse things that can happen to a young person, and no I won't be influenced by Charles Bukowski cause that guy lived the most miserable life ever known and he was a chronic alcoholic. As in he lived in a life of pain and that shit ain't worth living through just to be famous in their elder years. Fuck that shit,
I don't know about the next person who replies but I genuinely think your rant itself is very well-written and descriptive. If you genuinely want to end your life I won't try to talk you out of it or stop you, but as someone who enjoys creative writing myself, perhaps I could take a look at some of your writing and see if there's some way I can help, that way you don't feel like exiting life is the ONLY option you have.
I guess I'll share some later on. Either today or tomorrow.
Depends on how I feel I guess. Shoot me a DM so we can keep it private.
I don't want this post to feel like I'm just getting attention for my shit writing.
There are many people who love certain things in life more than life itself. It's not strange at all that you'd want to end it if you can't do the thing that you love most. your reason is very much valid.
Its almost the same as a guy wanting to be a football player getting denied professional league and somehow dislocating his limbs on the same day.
Career ending. Dreams dead.
Shit fucking sucks.
Do you still live in bum-fuck nowhere? Is there an autistic community near you where you can meet in person? Is there a job you can do or a skill you can learn so you can be employed? That might help with your self esteem. You've only been writing for a few years, right? And it was AI that critiqued your work? Writing is a difficult skill that you have to learn and develop. Just because you may not be good at it now, doesn't mean you can't be. There are so many online resources that can help you learn. Find writing prompts.

I like what you wrote about the city. Your teacher saw raw talent in you. That's great. Now go on and develop your skill. Try to enjoy the process. And do read - all types of authors. Start with short stories, or poems or essays about alienation. Write what you know. Being autistic in some small town in Utah can't be easy. Write about it, and expand on your prose about the big dark mysterious city.

It kills me that you were put in Special Ed and basically forgotten about for years. I've been doing a lot of research about nonverbal severe Autistics who have learned to spell using letter boards. They have such rich inner lives, but were treated like they had the mental capacity of kindergarteners. Anyway, I'm glad you're out of school now. You're a smart, creative person. I can tell by your writing.

I tried to write. It was too hard for me. I give up on everything I do. I don't know how to change this about myself. So, I know it can be hard for you to change. Maybe you can get on antidepressants or something to help with your severe depression. Do you have any friends? If not, how can you go about meeting people? Is your family supportive?

It's me again, LostHighway. Here are some things to look at when you get a chance:

Some Youtube videos

My Favourite Creative Writing Exercise of All Time

Characters A and B talk about what character C thinks about character D.


5 Creative Writing Exercises from Famous Authors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToB6qr_U9Bk

I tried Nelson's 9 Steps for Story Writing (and it's brilliant)


Creative Writing 101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRBhZpdnAa8

Step 1 to Story Writing: How to Brainstorm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay_j7Vm5ZTc

The #1 Fix to Write Engaging Prose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gofh_z438qA


———

Here are some writing prompts:


https://reedsy.com/creative-writing-prompts/

————

Here are a couple good Facebook writing groups. There are other writing groups as well

Writers helping writers

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1976705469192270

The Creative Writing Club
https://www.facebook.com/groups/898672433567624

Late response but maybe I might try those resources in a couple of months. I don't know but I'm certain its depression talking.
Thanks for them. I'm just responding so it doesn't feel like your talking to the void.
After all, wouldn't that be dreadful if you were?
 
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Ashu

novelist, sanskritist, Canadian living in India
Nov 13, 2021
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Well I'm a failed writer too, and that's not one of my reasons for hating my life. But if you feel that way about your life, and want to die over it, that's totally valid for you.
 
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EuclidianMisery

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Well I'm a failed writer too, and that's not one of my reasons for hating my life. But if you feel that way about your life, and want to die over it, that's totally valid for you.
I legit have no one in my life to talk about this with. And its genuinely fucking infuriates the hell out of me. Legit cannot have a good discussion surrounding suicide without someone vomiting usual rhetoric of '988, see I care! See! See?' And other bullshit veiled-diatribes meant to reinforce their ego and remind how selfish I am.
I'm a fucking loser, and my death is going to the most remarkable thing in my miserable life.
 
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witchcraft

it's too painful to live but I'm too afraid to die
Nov 27, 2024
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I can relate. Sadly I don't have much in the way of advice.

There's this weird push-pull that I have between wanting to be a financially successful writer, and wanting to make art.

The two aren't mutually exclusive, but nowadays it's very hard to do both. Entertainment in general, whether it's music, writing, filmmaking, there's a "cool kids club." You know, there are gatekeepers. Succeeding outside the system is very difficult. In terms of gaming, guys like Kojima are typically only able to outgrow the system by having worked in it for so long. And not all are so lucky; very few, in fact.

A little fact about Michelangelo: he didn't like painting, and hated it when popes and other powerful rich people would pay him to paint stuff, like the Sistine Chapel which actually caused him to temporarily go blind from looking upward so much for prolonged periods of time. Even for the greats like Michelangelo, the "system" was always a problem.

I don't like thinking in terms of this amorphous "audience." I don't want to think in terms of boxes, like genre. I don't want to conform my story to random cultural dictates. I want to write. I wish for people to read my writing and not care about the category, but whether or not it means anything to them, if the story in and of itself, by itself, had any value to them.

Of course, I don't want to sound too pretentious. Of course I am aware in the general sense of romance, sci-fi, fantasy, and what's generally expected. I know that I tend to like certain genres of music more than others. But time and time again I think to that quote: "The work, which becomes a new genre itself, will be called... Cowboy Bebop."

I'm not trying to do something avant garde. I just do not wish to chase trends, or to sacrifice something genuine about my story for the sake of appeasing some agent or critic. Obviously I'd like for as many people as possible to enjoy my writing, but that's only after sticking to my guns.

Ultimately, I have to write for myself. If I can't read my own writing, if I can't re-read it, if I can't be excited about my own writing, if I don't feel confident about my own writing, then none of the rest matters. I find it very hard to clearly see and judge my own writing when I am in a bad headspace, so in such times I have to step away, or I will beat myself up and spiral really, really badly.

You've finished two books, so you're already ahead of me. But I wonder about tying our worth to whether or not people will buy our art or whatever... That seems to basically be the same as turning ourselves into a product, since I see writing as an extension of myself. Tolkien originally wrote The Hobbit for his own children, and nobody else. Rembrandt made a distinction between art that was for his own creative interest, versus things he produced with a commercial intent; even when he was poor, in immense debt, and basically homeless, there were paintings and etchings that (as far as we know) he never made any effort to sell.

EDIT: I realize now that you never mentioned money or finances factoring into your assessment of being a "failure" in your original post. That's my bad, I got a little carried away. However, that being said, I understand the frustration of feeling like you're stuck, trapped, unable to improve. You define success for yourself. It's easier said than done, but... well, let's just say comparing yourself to other writers is risky business, not something I'd encourage unless you can really narrow down the comparison to something specifically technical and compartmentalize it.

Our emotions can be fuel. But that fuel can just as easily flood the engine. I forced myself to write 50k words for the last official Nanowrimo, and since then haven't written any fiction let alone finished that specific WIP. In the past i've sworn off writing, found myself in a similar place as you are now, and eventually ended up writing again... and not because of anything I did or didn't do, it just happened. Maybe the same will be true for you, I cannot say for certain. But the way you feel is certainly valid. I've found that it is seldom (note: I didn't say "never") useful to wonder whether it's valid to feel the way that we do, as that often leads to a much greater psychological or even existential crisis, as opposed to acknowledging you feel x or y and being left with only the issue of what to do about it. People may not relate, and I suppose are even free to disagree with the way you feel about something, but in the end nobody else is in a position to say you don't have permission to feel a certain way. And if you say to yourself "I am not allowed to feel this way" but you feel that way anyhow, then all you've achieved is being at civil war with yourself.
 
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I can relate. Sadly I don't have much in the way of advice.

There's this weird push-pull that I have between wanting to be a financially successful writer, and wanting to make art.

The two aren't mutually exclusive, but nowadays it's very hard to do both. Entertainment in general, whether it's music, writing, filmmaking, there's a "cool kids club." You know, there are gatekeepers. Succeeding outside the system is very difficult. In terms of gaming, guys like Kojima are typically only able to outgrow the system by having worked in it for so long. And not all are so lucky; very few, in fact.

A little fact about Michelangelo: he didn't like painting, and hated it when popes and other powerful rich people would pay him to paint stuff, like the Sistine Chapel which actually caused him to temporarily go blind from looking upward so much for prolonged periods of time. Even for the greats like Michelangelo, the "system" was always a problem.

I don't like thinking in terms of this amorphous "audience." I don't want to think in terms of boxes, like genre. I don't want to conform my story to random cultural dictates. I want to write. I wish for people to read my writing and not care about the category, but whether or not it means anything to them, if the story in and of itself, by itself, had any value to them.

Of course, I don't want to sound too pretentious. Of course I am aware in the general sense of romance, sci-fi, fantasy, and what's generally expected. I know that I tend to like certain genres of music more than others. But time and time again I think to that quote: "The work, which becomes a new genre itself, will be called... Cowboy Bebop."

I'm not trying to do something avant garde. I just do not wish to chase trends, or to sacrifice something genuine about my story for the sake of appeasing some agent or critic. Obviously I'd like for as many people as possible to enjoy my writing, but that's only after sticking to my guns.

Ultimately, I have to write for myself. If I can't read my own writing, if I can't re-read it, if I can't be excited about my own writing, if I don't feel confident about my own writing, then none of the rest matters. I find it very hard to clearly see and judge my own writing when I am in a bad headspace, so in such times I have to step away, or I will beat myself up and spiral really, really badly.

You've finished two books, so you're already ahead of me. But I wonder about tying our worth to whether or not people will buy our art or whatever... That seems to basically be the same as turning ourselves into a product, since I see writing as an extension of myself. Tolkien originally wrote The Hobbit for his own children, and nobody else. Rembrandt made a distinction between art that was for his own creative interest, versus things he produced with a commercial intent; even when he was poor, in immense debt, and basically homeless, there were paintings and etchings that (as far as we know) he never made any effort to sell.

EDIT: I realize now that you never mentioned money or finances factoring into your assessment of being a "failure" in your original post. That's my bad, I got a little carried away. However, that being said, I understand the frustration of feeling like you're stuck, trapped, unable to improve. You define success for yourself. It's easier said than done, but... well, let's just say comparing yourself to other writers is risky business, not something I'd encourage unless you can really narrow down the comparison to something specifically technical and compartmentalize it.

Our emotions can be fuel. But that fuel can just as easily flood the engine. I forced myself to write 50k words for the last official Nanowrimo, and since then haven't written any fiction let alone finished that specific WIP. In the past i've sworn off writing, found myself in a similar place as you are now, and eventually ended up writing again... and not because of anything I did or didn't do, it just happened. Maybe the same will be true for you, I cannot say for certain. But the way you feel is certainly valid. I've found that it is seldom (note: I didn't say "never") useful to wonder whether it's valid to feel the way that we do, as that often leads to a much greater psychological or even existential crisis, as opposed to acknowledging you feel x or y and being left with only the issue of what to do about it. People may not relate, and I suppose are even free to disagree with the way you feel about something, but in the end nobody else is in a position to say you don't have permission to feel a certain way. And if you say to yourself "I am not allowed to feel this way" but you feel that way anyhow, then all you've achieved is being at civil war with yourself.
Writing helps get voices out of my head and it reminds me how shit of a creative I am. Years I spent neglecting pratical skills such as math, law and such have been tossed to the side in pursuit of the creatives. The greatest trick the devil played on me was convincing me I'm somehow creative, that I'm special. Its been well over 12 years since I graduated High School and I deeply regret my choices that landed me here to this miserable point in my life. Thus I don't feel like I need permission to kill myself, just wanted to share my miserable thoughts. I really hate being alone.

Yeah, sure. I finished two books but I could only edit them via the use of AI due to Human editors fucking me over with incompetence and high prices. If that was bad, then being a director or game producer would be leagues worse and I would have to ask myself would it be worth the cost? To bear so much tumultuous elements until something is concrete, ready to be relased. Only for algorithms to decide 'no, you're not chosen'. Then can we ask ourselves was it worth wasting so much time?

I don't know. I'm not sure and I hate that I don't even have an answer to my own question. Which is worse considering I'm the first in a generation to produce said-book from a bloodline of fuck ups and violent dickheads with bipolar women that its honestly a miracle I didn't ended up on the bottle or in jail at this point in my life.
 
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no I get it. I suffer from writer's block when it comes to acedemic writing. All that's missing from my degeree is the bachelor thesis. But researching and writing it is impossible for me. When I try I feel self-hatred, paralyzing doubt and the urge to throw up. All I had going for me were my good university grades and now that I don't have that anymore I wanna kill myself. So I get your desperation. But I dont think you should kill yourself. You can hone your craft, you have time! and fuck AI! AI doesnt know what good writing is.
 
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no I get it. I suffer from writer's block when it comes to acedemic writing. All that's missing from my degeree is the bachelor thesis. But researching and writing it is impossible for me. When I try I feel self-hatred, paralyzing doubt and the urge to throw up. All I had going for me were my good university grades and now that I don't have that anymore I wanna kill myself. So I get your desperation. But I dont think you should kill yourself. You can hone your craft, you have time! and fuck AI! AI doesnt know what good writing is.
I've got no way to hone my craft. There was a previous attempt with Writing Forum and Reddit but both were full of assholes. I couldn't understand things like prose, rhythm or pacing. Depending on how you perceive that information, I think we can safely assume I must be either mentally challenged or flat-out incompetent. To further address my point, here's an excerpt before I stopped entirely in its tracks:
1:52PM WEDNESDAY.

Eleven year old Marty Harvin hung out near the old booth. His hands in sweatpants, he sat on the bench as his friends piled more random garbage into the fire they got going. Jules and Simian Buchanan both piled scavenged into the metal barrel. Every piece of lumber went down into the inferno and flying embers arose from its fiery maw. Behind them 'Brick', as he likes to call himself, finished rubbing the seasoning Marty found in the nearby tenements. His fat fingers worked into massaging the high sodium content into the slimy chicken that awaits the nearby grill. Brick hears both Simian and Jules smacking their hands finished before sliding the metal grill onto the roaring fire. It was positioned in a way to not be too near the fire and yet low enough to consume the heat with bits of smoke. Not a single piece of plastic garbage was put into their makeshift oven as they all knew from experience how god awful that would make the meat taste. Brick takes the pieces of chicken all sitting on a wooden board. Simian sprays butter-oil onto the grill and without further waiting Brick throws the meat onto it.

Marty tosses a baseball in the air and the three boys back away from the fire.

"Anyone wanna a beer?" Brick asked and both boys shot their hands straight up.

"Marty?' He asked again when heading to the plastic cooler. Marty shook his head into a refusal. "I'm good, man."

"Good?" Jules asked gripping the cold beer in his gloved hand.

-END, Never finished.

As you can see I struggle greatly with pacing and other things and tend to often use brown-prose. Or the high brows would call it lazy writing. Whatever it is, a fact remains and its simple. I can't write to save my life. There's the proof of my lack of skill. If you want more proof then another excerpt from another unfinished project:
"Oh fuck, Boss. Don't do that! They'll connect two and two together and send you off in cuffs, baby. Who's going to watch out for your old woman?"Mama cuts in with a concerned look. Bossman claps and points to the direction from where we came from. "Why Ashley Misery will!"
I turned and saw the most beautiful-pleasant-elegant-fascinating-thing-creature-woman ever created in mankind. Her lanky form, tall legs and dark as charcoal hair all looked 'underwater when she strode to us. A ghostly smile planted on her full lips and the pale as snow pallor aided in her haunted appearance. Ashley Misery wore a black skirt with a grey collared office shirt and a green neck tie. She had a black ripped up business jacket that actually fitted her thin frame and a pair of fingerless gloves. The way she managed to step in high heel boots without producing sound as absolute art and those knee-high socks could get a wolf whistling like a fiend. God damn, Ashley Misery floated to us and her hand shots out to my face. "Give," She commanded and I gladly fucking obliged.

Yet again, more proof I can't pace to save my life.
 
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Well,
I appreciate the silence guys.
Just what I wanted in fact.
Fucking silence. Dead and quiet.
Like how most of my life has been.
No different than being dead.

Fuck. I guess I have the wrong, face, skin color, voice, vocabulary, etc.
To even warrant a genuine discussion cause fuck me! The Subhuman!
That's what I am! A god damn sub human to you all!
Fuck my life! Fuck this shit!
Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!
God dammit!
 

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