400mg/ml N - Where can we get this? (Penbital, Euthasol, etc)

[summers]

So in doing some research, the concentrations for N made for animal euthanasia are much than what seems to be available from D. Those look to be 50mg/ml, when something like Penbital and Euthasol is 400mg/ml. (https://www.bioveta.eu/en/news/news-in-assortment/penbital-400-mg-ml-injection-solution.html) (https://nembutalmedstore.com/euthasol/)

These are what we really need. For a 100kg person, these would be fatal at 25ml-70ml. A 70ml injection is a decent amount, but very doable. 25ml is nothing, you could shoot that in 2-3 seconds.

 

[PeacefulTonic]

D's bottles are 63mg/ml, or 6.3g of pentobarbital per bottle.

There are no sources for Penbital or Euthasol

 

[callme]

Bioveta only supplies large pet store chains and such, plus you'd need a document certifying competency as a vet.

You can find some on Wickr I think, but Euthasol is rarely in stock, for double D's price. Make no mistake, at such a high concentration you will always pay a lot more. The good thing is, you'd only need one bottle.

You get two and a half times more product for two times D's price (for Euthasol).

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Bioveta only supplies large pet store chains and such, plus you'd need a document certifying competency as a vet.

You can find some on Wickr I think, but Euthasol is rarely in stock, for double D's price. Make no mistake, at such a high concentration you will always pay a lot more. The good thing is, you'd only need one bottle.

You get two and a half times more product for two times D's price (for Euthasol).

Have you or do you know anyone else who's obtained N this way?

 

[callme]

Have you or do you know anyone else who's obtained N this way?

Not that I remember. Most Wickr vendors are scams anyway, but check the Dread forums, you may find some.

 

[PeacefulTonic]

Not that I remember. Most Wickr vendors are scams anyway, but check the Dread forums, you may find some.

Pretty sure they're all scams. No one on the DNM has N. It's just not profitable or worth the risk to them

 

[juraviel]

Pretty sure they're all scams. No one on the DNM has N. It's just not profitable or worth the risk to them

in countries like peru N is dirt cheap. you can make 10-20x on 1 purchase so it's most definitely profitable, you don't need repeat customers. what's the risk you're talking about, it's the same risk for any other drug they could be selling.

 

[PeacefulTonic]

in countries like peru N is dirt cheap. you can make 10-20x on 1 purchase so it's most definitely profitable, you don't need repeat customers. what's the risk you're talking about, it's the same risk for any other drug they could be selling.

Just because it's profitable on a one time sale doesn't mean it's profitable to keep selling it long term. If there was much higher demand we'd surely see way more sources for N. But that's clearly not the case.

So let's say it's dirt cheap in Peru. Who has access to it? Can any random person easily obtain it? Or do they need a vet license?

 

[callme]

Who has access to it? Can any random person easily obtain it? Or do they need a vet license?

Anybody, it's sold over-the-counter. You'd only need a license if buying online, but not in person. The PPH has info on physical locations, however, it could be outdated if a certain shop said to sell it stops. They are gradually becomung aware of tourists who are buying for ctb and that's why largely Peru is preferred over Mexico, where most of the shops that sold throughout the years almost all have refused and it's now difficult for even a local to get.

You can easily see the locations yourself, also use a translator. If a specific shop mentioned no longer sells, you get too suspicious (guess you could say that your dog is epileptic and that's why you need Pisabental) or whatever, find another one. You may have to do some travelling around the city before you find. I wouldn't be worried about taxi prices in such an affordable country too.