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[Ethernatuskoi]

If I drink a large amount of alcohol to become unconscious and throw myself into a deep river, do you think the method would work and death would be guaranteed or not ?

I saw on a website that it's really agonizing to drown and the SI could get in the way, but like, I don't know how to swim and if I'm drunk the chances of death could increase, right? Or am I wrong? Anyway, please respond because I need help.

 

[Worndown]

I wpuld not choose this way, but maybe swallow a bunch of sleeping pills before you dive in. Booze, pills and a little time will not make you a good swimmer.

 

[Zany]

If you want to do it this way, I would also recommend you wear as much clothing as you can, maybe fill your pockets with weight too to make sure you don't float

 

[Intoxicated]

If you want to do it this way, I would also recommend you wear as much clothing as you can

Why?

 

[mortuarymary]

Why?

So he doesn't float. He will stay at the bottom if made heavy and drown.

 

[Intoxicated]

So he doesn't float.

How exactly can it prevent floating?

He will stay at the bottom if made heavy and drown.

Mass doesn't matter, you can stay afloat with 1000 kg of extra weight if its density is less than water's. Clothes can hold a lot of air, making the average density too low for submerging.

 

[Zany]

How exactly can it prevent floating?

Mass doesn't matter, you can stay afloat with 1000 kg of extra weight if its density is less than water's. Clothes can hold a lot of air, making the average density too low for submerging.

Have you ever swam with clothes on? I had to do this for rescue training and I can tell you with certainty, you cannot passively float with clothes on (shoes, socks, pants, trousers, shirt, vest) The air is not held in the clothes, they get soaked with water and weigh you down if submerged for an extended period of time. the soaking takes a little bit, so they may float at first.

 

[Intoxicated]

Have you ever swam with clothes on? I had to do this for rescue training and I can tell you with certainty, you cannot passively float with clothes on (shoes, socks, pants, trousers, shirt, vest)

Surely, clothes can reduce your swimming performance.

The air is not held in the clothes, they get soaked with water and weigh you down if submerged for an extended period of time. the soaking takes a little bit, so they may float at first.

Depending on the amount of layers and the materials of clothes, that "little bit" can take a lot of time (possibly, up to eternity in case of waterproof materials). Using a simple 10 - 15 kg weight made out of a high-density material such as steel looks like a way more effective method if you want to impair your movements and force submersion.

 

[Quantum Particle]

Surely, clothes can reduce your swimming performance.

Depending on the amount of layers and the materials of clothes, that "little bit" can take a lot of time (possibly, up to eternity in case of waterproof materials). Using a simple 10 - 15 kg weight made out of a high-density material such as steel looks like a way more effective method if you want to impair your movements and force submersion.

@Zany mentioned adding weights to the clothing in her very first post

 

[Intoxicated]

@Zany mentioned adding weights to the clothing in her very first post

You don't need extra clothing with weights.

 

[Quantum Particle]

Good luck staying afloat with 1000kg (family car) of extra weight

 

[Intoxicated]

 

[Quantum Particle]

Just to summarise this discussion:- if you are considering drowning please don't confuse extra clothing with life jackets or tie an inflatable crocodile to yourself for extra weight. As I side note jumpers try not to wear a parachute as this could severely effect the desired outcome

 

[mortuarymary]

Good luck staying afloat with 1000kg (family car) of extra weight

But how long until you drown.

 

[Ethernatuskoi]

Hello, thank you to everyone who responded to this thread and gave some tips. I'm going to look for some more information on the internet to avoid something going wrong, and it would be good to look at the depth of the river too and put the method into pratice at a time when there is no one around to avoid.

And from what i saw, drowning can last an average of 18 minutes, but i'm saying this based on the lostallhope list, but on some other sites the number changes to 3 minutes, and unfortunately the agony of the method is quite high... and i admit that if i had the resources to try other methods i would definitely try.

 

[Saitama2]

The problem with alcohol is that you need a lot of it to become unconscious, at that point, you won't be able to even do anything. Being drunk may make you "braver" but you'll still feel the pain of drowning. Look into Shallow Water Blackout, it involves hyperventilation, but from experience, you need some training to make your body feel less pain from drowning. It takes time.

 

[Aprilfarewell4]

If I drink a large amount of alcohol to become unconscious and throw myself into a deep river, do you think the method would work and death would be guaranteed or not ?

I saw on a website that it's really agonizing to drown and the SI could get in the way, but like, I don't know how to swim and if I'm drunk the chances of death could increase, right? Or am I wrong? Anyway, please respond because I need help.

Two people I know drowned in the river recently, within the last year. They definitely died and they weren't drunk or on any drugs. They definitely wanted to die though so that probably had a lot to do with it. Jumping from high enough into the river, the fall kills a person anyway.
Adding weights also helps a person if they're serious about not coming back up. chain the weights to the ankles using a padlock and lock it throw the key far far away and jump. I'm not suggesting you do this but it's one way that people can insure success.

 

[Raindancer]

I think the temp of the water may make a difference. I grew up by a river and swam competitively in high school and was a life guard. I was paddle boarding on the river and something hit my paddle board and knocked me in. The shock of the cold water literally took my breath and if a kayaker was not right beside me to grab me I am not sure I would have recovered in time. I was so surprised to have had that kind of reaction since I never had before. I also was not wearing a life vest.

 

[Ash]

Cold water shock is a real killer. Inexperienced paddle boarders not wearing floatation devices and ankle tethers is the bane of rescue crew lives'.

 

[SeekingTheHorizon]

if i had the resources to try other methods i would definitely try.

I feel like hanging at full or partial suspension would fairly accessible, no? And probably a lot faster than drowning.