Why do people choose sn if it's not a certain death?

[iwantitalltoend]

I know people choose sn because it's supposedely more peaceful compared to other methods and not very difficult to obtain, even though the effects from sn aren't necessarily very peaceful, but if some people say no method is 100% guaranteed to work then why would they choose sn? I don't really think no method is 100% guaranteed to work, no one is immortal, and even if they aren't 100% guaranteed there are methods that are more certain to work and to be lethal. I'm not saying sn isn't lethal, from everything I read and saw on the internet it can kill, but there are conflicting and contradictory informations and opinions about sn here on the forum, people say different things about it.

I have sn and if I was sure it would kill me I would take it without hesitation, I would rather take sn than do other methods but I doubt how lethal sn and I don't know how much I can trust it because of what some people said about it. I'm afraid of sn not being pure enough to be lethal, even if the source I bought it from says it's pure, also the aquarium tests and blood test aren't very reliable, they don't say much about its purity, they don't show the exact percentage of its purity, they give you an idea of the level of nitrites present in sn.

I know a few people who bought sn from the same source I have for example, from BO, and they haven't been online since they drank it but how can we know for sure they really died, how can we know they didn't fail and survive in a worse condition? If we don't know someone personally in real life, if we don't have proof they died then how can we be sure they died just because they haven't been active online? How can we be sure the sn is pure enough to be lethal, even if the sources we buy from say it's pure, what if the sn isn't pure enough? If really no method is guaranteed as some people want to think then why do they choose sn considering that there are other more certain methods that are lethal? Why do they trust sn?

 

[wyo777]

For example i do not trust sn. To be ownest the best method is jumping. Not for me cause i'm getting paralized even on the bridge but for people who are not afraid of heights it is the best method.

 

[TheVanishingPoint]

There are some clinical studies on SN, that's true, but almost all of them concern accidental poisonings or suicide attempts treated in hospitals with immediate use of antidotes. These are medical data, not proof of success. And most importantly: none of these studies confirm SN as a reliably lethal voluntary method. Effects can vary greatly from person to person, the purity of the substance is always uncertain, DIY tests prove nothing, and the reports on forums are contradictory, incomplete, and often clearly manipulated. SN is not a safe method. It's a hypothesis of an outcome. An experiment with yourself as the test subject. If you're looking for something "precise," "clean," or "guaranteed," SN is the exact opposite: a fragile promise, wrapped in silence and fragments. And the more you search for certainty in that darkness, the more you'll get lost. The most lethal, reliable, and well-documented methods — we all know what they are.

 

[iwantitalltoend]

There are some clinical studies on SN, that's true, but almost all of them concern accidental poisonings or suicide attempts treated in hospitals with immediate use of antidotes. These are medical data, not proof of success. And most importantly: none of these studies confirm SN as a reliably lethal voluntary method. Effects can vary greatly from person to person, the purity of the substance is always uncertain, DIY tests prove nothing, and the reports on forums are contradictory, incomplete, and often clearly manipulated. SN is not a safe method. It's a hypothesis of an outcome. An experiment with yourself as the test subject. If you're looking for something "precise," "clean," or "guaranteed," SN is the exact opposite: a fragile promise, wrapped in silence and fragments. And the more you search for certainty in that darkness, the more you'll get lost. The most lethal, reliable, and well-documented methods — we all know what they are.

I think sn can kill, logically speaking if it wasn't lethal then it wouldn't be discussed as a method, the PPH wouldn't discuss about it. There are informations on google about sn, there are cases of people who died from it, so this should mean that it's lethal but it's also true that it's not the most lethal and certain method, it depends on how pure sn is probably. That's what worries me the most, people here say the purity should be at least 95% to be lethal, some said 90%, the aquarium tests and blood test don't show the exact percentage of the purity. If you fail and survive from sn then there could be serious and long lasting damage from it. I don't know what to believe anymore about sn. Also you said reports on forums are manipulated, what do you mean by that, who manipulates them and why?

 

[TheVanishingPoint]

I think sn can kill, logically speaking if it wasn't lethal then it wouldn't be discussed as a method, the PPH wouldn't discuss about it. There are informations on google about sn, there are cases of people who died from it, so this should mean that it's lethal but it's also true that it's not the most lethal and certain method, it depends on how pure sn is probably. That's what worries me the most, people here say the purity should be at least 95% to be lethal, some said 90%, the aquarium tests and blood test don't show the exact percentage of the purity. If you fail and survive from sn then there could be serious and long lasting damage from it. I don't know what to believe anymore about sn. Also you said reports on forums are manipulated, what do you mean by that, who manipulates them and why?

You say that if the purity of SN is high enough, then it should be safe.
But you're starting from a flawed assumption: that chemistry alone can guarantee the outcome.
It doesn't work like that.
Even with medically standardized, thoroughly studied methods, there's no such thing as 100%.
Let alone with SN — a method barely studied, with few verifiable cases, and most of the information coming from Google or anonymous posts on the internet.
None of that accounts for individual differences: metabolism, body weight, health conditions, mental state.
Death is not a formula. It's a biological, chaotic, subjective process.
And if you're searching for absolute safety, the problem isn't the purity of SN.
The problem is that no method will ever give you what you're really looking for: total elimination of risk.
And if the slightest margin of uncertainty stops you, that says something.
Not about the method — but about you.

 

[quietwoods]

I know people choose sn because it's supposedely more peaceful compared to other methods and not very difficult to obtain, even though the effects from sn aren't necessarily very peaceful, but if some people say no method is 100% guaranteed to work then why would they choose sn? I don't really think no method is 100% guaranteed to work, no one is immortal, and even if they aren't 100% guaranteed there are methods that are more certain to work and to be lethal. I'm not saying sn isn't lethal, from everything I read and saw on the internet it can kill, but there are conflicting and contradictory informations and opinions about sn here on the forum, people say different things about it.

I have sn and if I was sure it would kill me I would take it without hesitation, I would rather take sn than do other methods but I doubt how lethal sn and I don't know how much I can trust it because of what some people said about it. I'm afraid of sn not being pure enough to be lethal, even if the source I bought it from says it's pure, also the aquarium tests and blood test aren't very reliable, they don't say much about its purity, they don't show the exact percentage of its purity, they give you an idea of the level of nitrites present in sn.

I know a few people who bought sn from the same source I have for example, from BO, and they haven't been online since they drank it but how can we know for sure they really died, how can we know they didn't fail and survive in a worse condition? If we don't know someone personally in real life, if we don't have proof they died then how can we be sure they died just because they haven't been active online? How can we be sure the sn is pure enough to be lethal, even if the sources we buy from say it's pure, what if the sn isn't pure enough? If really no method is guaranteed as some people want to think then why do they choose sn considering that there are other more certain methods that are lethal? Why do they trust sn?

SN is very reliable, as long as you don't vomit it up too quickly.

If you manage to keep enough of it in your stomach, it is 100% lethal at the recommended dosage.

The people you see failing either deviated from protocol or vomited too quickly. The last data I've seen indicated an ~80% success rate.

 

[bankai]

It's not just SN. You need to follow the SN protocol. All of the things enlisted in it together make for a reliable death. Reasonably peaceful too.

 

[iwantitalltoend]

You say that if the purity of SN is high enough, then it should be safe.
But you're starting from a flawed assumption: that chemistry alone can guarantee the outcome.
It doesn't work like that.
Even with medically standardized, thoroughly studied methods, there's no such thing as 100%.
Let alone with SN — a method barely studied, with few verifiable cases, and most of the information coming from Google or anonymous posts on the internet.
None of that accounts for individual differences: metabolism, body weight, health conditions, mental state.
Death is not a formula. It's a biological, chaotic, subjective process.
And if you're searching for absolute safety, the problem isn't the purity of SN.
The problem is that no method will ever give you what you're really looking for: total elimination of risk.
And if the slightest margin of uncertainty stops you, that says something.
Not about the method — but about you.

Actually yes, the problem is the purity of sn, from what I read if sn is pure enough then it should be lethal, but I don't know how to be sure of its purity because the tests people talk about here, the aquarium tests and blood test, aren't very reliable, they don't show much. I have good reasons to be afraid of failure from sn and why its uncertainty scares me, I know that if you survive from it there can be long lasting damage based on how sn works and what it does to the body. I'm sure there are methods that are if not 100% certain, at least close to 100%, but some of them I'm afraid of doing them, such as jumping from a very high building, others are difficult to obtain such as a gun. It depends on the method, even if there was uncertainty about what would happen, I would do the method if it's a method I like, there are methods I prefer more than others but some are difficult to get and others more complicated to do. What do you mean by if the slightest margin of uncertainty stops me it says something not about the method but about me? Also what about the reports you mentioned in your other reply, you said they're manipulated, by who and why?

 

[iwantitalltoend]

SN is very reliable, as long as you don't vomit it up too quickly.

If you manage to keep enough of it in your stomach, it is 100% lethal at the recommended dosage.

The people you see failing either deviated from protocol or vomited too quickly. The last data I've seen indicated an ~80% success rate.

What about the purity of sn? From what I read here the purity should be at least 95% to be lethal, how do we know for sure the sn we buy is pure enough to be lethal? Even if the sources we buy from say it's pure can we really be sure it's pure as they claim to be, what if it's not pure? The aquarium tests and blood test aren't very reliable, they don't show much. Maybe sending some of the sn to a laboratory might be an option to see its exact percentage of purity but I never sent something to a lab before, I don't know what to say to them especially about sn since it's a dangerous substance, what can I say to be more believable about the reason I have sn, if I say it's more meat curing what if they ask for some sort of proof for why I have sn?

 

[iwantitalltoend]

It's not just SN. You need to follow the SN protocol. All of the things enlisted in it together make for a reliable death. Reasonably peaceful too.

The things in the protocol such as antiemetics, benzos and painkillers aren't necessary, they're optional. Sn is the only thing that kills, from what I read sn kills even without an antiemetic, if you take an AE it's not guaranteed you won't vomit but you should have at least 2 drinks prepared if you vomit after the first one. I still don't think sn is a very reliable method, it can work but there are other methods that are more certain to be lethal. If we don't know for sure the exact percentage of the purity of sn then how do we know for sure if it will be lethal or not? Even if the sources we buy from say it's pure, what if it's not pure enough to work? The aquarium tests and blood test aren't very reliable, they don't show the exact percentage of the purity. That's why I view sn more like a gamble, if we don't know for sure how pure sn is then after we drink sn it's not certain what will happen, if it will kill us or not, after you drink it you leave things to chance

 

[bankai]

The things in the protocol such as antiemetics, benzos and painkillers aren't necessary, they're optional. Sn is the only thing that kills, from what I read sn kills even without an antiemetic, if you take an AE it's not guaranteed you won't vomit but you should have at least 2 drinks prepared if you vomit after the first one. I still don't think sn is a very reliable method, it can work but there are other methods that are more certain to be lethal. If we don't know for sure the exact percentage of the purity of sn then how do we know for sure if it will be lethal or not? Even if the sources we buy from say it's pure, what if it's not pure enough to work? The aquarium tests and blood test aren't very reliable, they don't show the exact percentage of the purity. That's why I view sn more like a gamble, if we don't know for sure how pure sn is then after we drink sn it's not certain what will happen, if it will kill us or not, after you drink it you leave things to chance

96% purity is good enough. I don't think there are too many cases of people surviving. If you buy from a reliable source, one that's tried and tested, the SN should be good. Also the PPH says there's no need to even test it.This isn't cocaine, which is cut with all sorts of things to increase profit. SN is a very cheap chemical.

 

[iwantitalltoend]

96% purity is good enough. I don't think there are too many cases of people surviving. If you buy from a reliable source, one that's tried and tested, the SN should be good. Also the PPH says there's no need to even test it.This isn't cocaine, which is cut with all sorts of things to increase profit. SN is a very cheap chemical.

But if the sn isn't pure enough to work and if you survive then it can lead to serious and long lasting damage based on how sn works and on what it does to the body, it depletes the oxygen from your blood, this can have serious effects if the method doesn't work and you don't die, it could leave you as a vegetable. It's not true that you can recover so easily from sn without any side effects as some people here want to believe. That's why it's not a certain method. We don't know for sure if people who took sn really died or if they survived in a worse condition just because they haven't been online since they drank sn, if we don't know them personally in real life and don't have proof they died then how can we know for sure if sn worked?

 

[deathbydesign]

But if the sn isn't pure enough to work and if you survive then it can lead to serious and long lasting damage based on how sn works and on what it does to the body, it depletes the oxygen from your blood, this can have serious effects if the method doesn't work and you don't die, it could leave you as a vegetable. It's not true that you can recover so easily from sn without any side effects as some people here want to believe. That's why it's not a certain method. We don't know for sure if people who took sn really died or if they survived in a worse condition just because they haven't been online since they drank sn, if we don't know them personally in real life and don't have proof they died then how can we know for sure if sn worked?

The thing is - source

SN is a common chemical and there is little reason for it to not be pure. Get it from a reliable source and you have no worries. Chemical suppliers - actual ones - have nothing to gain and everything to lose by selling product that isn't what they claim it to be. They aren't selling it for ctb - they are selling it for legitimate reasons where it needs to be at the indicated purity.

Well sealed, well packaged, well labeled sn from a reliable source is going to be pure enough. Period. It's inexpensive and there is zero reason for it to be fake unless buying from a shady seller who is only taking advantage of people like us buying it.

Even if you choose to not believe the hundreds of ctb accounts on this site - there is tons of actual data available showing how lethal it is.

There is also a smaller chance of terrible consequences if not fatal than almost every other method. It is reversable and I've seen only a couple accounts of slightly serious long term effects.

It's a method a lot of us choose because it's obtainable and easy and has a very high success rate - and probably the easiest to overcome SI too.

 

[iwantitalltoend]

The thing is - source

SN is a common chemical and there is little reason for it to not be pure. Get it from a reliable source and you have no worries. Chemical suppliers - actual ones - have nothing to gain and everything to lose by selling product that isn't what they claim it to be. They aren't selling it for ctb - they are selling it for legitimate reasons where it needs to be at the indicated purity.

Well sealed, well packaged, well labeled sn from a reliable source is going to be pure enough. Period. It's inexpensive and there is zero reason for it to be fake unless buying from a shady seller who is only taking advantage of people like us buying it.

Even if you choose to not believe the hundreds of ctb accounts on this site - there is tons of actual data available showing how lethal it is.

There is also a smaller chance of terrible consequences if not fatal than almost every other method. It is reversable and I've seen only a couple accounts of slightly serious long term effects.

It's a method a lot of us choose because it's obtainable and easy and has a very high success rate - and probably the easiest to overcome SI too.

Do you know about BO? They sell sn from the BM brand. Do you think it's a legit source, is the sn from them pure enough to be lethal? On their website it says it has 98% purity but I'm still not sure if it's true. I think the purity of sn is the most important thing, if it's pure enough to be lethal then you don't even need other things mentioned in the protocol, sn should be lethal if it's pure enough. Also I really don't think sn doesn't have long term effects if you survive from it. You know sn depletes the blood of oxygen right? This can lead to serious damage to the organs and to the body in general. If you survive then it can have serious consequences. That's why I'm not sure how reliable and lethal sn is. As I said in my previous comments, I don't think sn is such a reliable and certain method. I think it can work, the informations from the internet should be true about how lethal it is, if not all informations then at least most of them. I want to think that logically if sn wasn't lethal then it wouldn't even be discussed as a method and the PPH wouldn't include it, but I still doubt just how certain it is, maybe because I want to be certain I die. It's just that there are more certain methods that can lead to more certain deaths, I don't know why I doubt sn so much, maybe because it's a new method and not very well known compared to other methods. It's like a gamble if you take sn because it's not certain what will happen once you drink it, if you'll die or not, that's what worries me about it. I know I'm paranoid but when it comes to suicide you have to make sure the method you do will work because suicide is something very serious

 

[quietwoods]

But if the sn isn't pure enough to work and if you survive then it can lead to serious and long lasting damage based on how sn works and on what it does to the body, it depletes the oxygen from your blood, this can have serious effects if the method doesn't work and you don't die, it could leave you as a vegetable. It's not true that you can recover so easily from sn without any side effects as some people here want to believe. That's why it's not a certain method. We don't know for sure if people who took sn really died or if they survived in a worse condition just because they haven't been online since they drank sn, if we don't know them personally in real life and don't have proof they died then how can we know for sure if sn worked?

SN is popular because the points where permanent brain damage occurs and death occurs are very closely linked.

If you've reached the point where SN has choked off the oxygen supply to your brain enough that damage starts occurring, it's going to kill you at that point. The SN isn't going to leave your system quickly enough unless medical intervention occurs.

Unlike something such as inert gas where the oxygen supply is immediately completely cut off and damage starts occurring quickly, and if the bag somehow slips off your head you can survive as a vegetable.

 

[deathbydesign]

Do you know about BO? They sell sn from the BM brand. Do you think it's a legit source, is the sn from them pure enough to be lethal? On their website it says it has 98% purity but I'm still not sure if it's true. I think the purity of sn is the most important thing, if it's pure enough to be lethal then you don't even need other things mentioned in the protocol, sn should be lethal if it's pure enough. Also I really don't think sn doesn't have long term effects if you survive from it. You know sn depletes the blood of oxygen right? This can lead to serious damage to the organs and to the body in general. If you survive then it can have serious consequences. That's why I'm not sure how reliable and lethal sn is. As I said in my previous comments, I don't think sn is such a reliable and certain method. I think it can work, the informations from the internet should be true about how lethal it is, if not all informations then at least most of them. I want to think that logically if sn wasn't lethal then it wouldn't even be discussed as a method and the PPH wouldn't include it, but I still doubt just how certain it is, maybe because I want to be certain I die. It's just that there are more certain methods that can lead to more certain deaths, I don't know why I doubt sn so much, maybe because it's a new method and not very well known compared to other methods. It's like a gamble if you take sn because it's not certain what will happen once you drink it, if you'll die or not, that's what worries me about it. I know I'm paranoid but when it comes to suicide you have to make sure the method you do will work because suicide is something very serious

I'm not sure about that place - you can pm me a link to them and I'll check it out if you want. I am US based and ordered from a chemical supplier here.

I understand what SN does - the only times I have seen it not work are

- didn't drink enough
-got found/called for help
-threw up right away and didn't drink another glass
-drank sodium nitrate not nitrite
-took sn from unreliable source that likely wasn't pure sn

And there are several accounts on here from people who failed to ctb. A bunch of research online as well.

I cannot think of a method that has a lesser chance of terrible long term effects from failure but maybe there is one idk

But I also can't think of a 100% method either. Not sure it exists.

So you gotta weigh it out for yourself

To me- I feel like if I jump/drown/OD/shoot myself and I fail - the chances of being permanently fucked forever are much higher than the chances of I fail with SN.

It's a personal choice but I've been researching and read hundreds and hundreds of accounts and medical documentation and I firmly believe that out of the available options it is the one that seems to be the best choice, for me.

 

[Britney Spears]

I don't think our body's hemoglobin reductase is capable of eliminating or reducing methemoglobin, right? I could donate blood first, but I don't know if that's a good idea

 

[iwantitalltoend]

I'm not sure about that place - you can pm me a link to them and I'll check it out if you want. I am US based and ordered from a chemical supplier here.

I understand what SN does - the only times I have seen it not work are

- didn't drink enough
-got found/called for help
-threw up right away and didn't drink another glass
-drank sodium nitrate not nitrite
-took sn from unreliable source that likely wasn't pure sn

And there are several accounts on here from people who failed to ctb. A bunch of research online as well.

I cannot think of a method that has a lesser chance of terrible long term effects from failure but maybe there is one idk

But I also can't think of a 100% method either. Not sure it exists.

So you gotta weigh it out for yourself

To me- I feel like if I jump/drown/OD/shoot myself and I fail - the chances of being permanently fucked forever are much higher than the chances of I fail with SN.

It's a personal choice but I've been researching and read hundreds and hundreds of accounts and medical documentation and I firmly believe that out of the available options it is the one that seems to be the best choice, for me.

I'll send you the link. From what I see BO and BM are popular sources of sn here, some people said BO is pure but I don't know how true this is, there are also 2 versions of their website, one in german and one in polish, I bought it from the german one, also I know a few people who drank sn from BO and they haven't been online since then but I'm not sure if they really died or not because I don't know them personally in real life and I don't have proof if they died

 

[Forever Sleep]

I'm not sure other methods are 100% reliable either. People have also failed hanging, jumping, firearm. With equally nasty consequences.

 

[quietwoods]

But I also can't think of a 100% method either. Not sure it exists.

Earlier today someone discussed the method of nuking every square inch of the earth's surface.

I would consider that 100% effective.

Only costs $600 trillion!

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I think the fact that governments themselves are passing legislation to outright ban SN, or, at the very least, making it harder for non-business entities to purchase it, speaks volumes as to its effectiveness. As far as concern about purity, if one has the means, they could always send a sample to an independent lab for analysis. Also, there's the ever-growing amount of anecdotal data here on SaSu regarding those who have reportedly/allegedly used SN to ctb, and often their accounts can be researched to find out from which supplier they purchased it. And then there's the great work coming from the anti-choicers who frequently, as of late, anyway, seem to get the stories of their loved-one's demise turned into a sensationalized rant from some glory-seeking media rag, complete with the identity of the person and blatant references to some "online suicide cult" where that person found the information to obtain the SN.

So, I'd say, SN does indeed work, as long as someone doesn't go about using it in a stupid way, ignoring best practices (alone time) and best known administrative protocol.

 

[iwantitalltoend]

I'm not sure other methods are 100% reliable either. People have also failed hanging, jumping, firearm. With equally nasty consequences.

There are more certain methods, if not 100% reliable then at least close to 100%, also people who failed the methods you mentioned probably failed because they didn't do them correctly

 

[Forever Sleep]

There are more certain methods, if not 100% reliable then at least close to 100%, also people who failed the methods you mentioned probably failed because they didn't do them correctly

The same goes for SN though. There are often reasons why it failed. Not following the protocol- not fasting, not taking antiemetics, not measuring the components, sipping at it, drinking alcohol/ milk/ juice shortly before or after. That's not to say there always so clear reasons of course.

Still, I can understand your trepidation. It's not like I have 100% confidence in it. I can at least envisage myself doing it though- which I struggle to with other methods. We all have to find the method we most feel comfortable with I suppose. Out of curiosity, what is your prefered method? Is the 'success' rate so much higher with it?

 

[iwantitalltoend]

The same goes for SN though. There are often reasons why it failed. Not following the protocol- not fasting, not taking antiemetics, not measuring the components, sipping at it, drinking alcohol/ milk/ juice shortly before or after. That's not to say there always so clear reasons of course.

Still, I can understand your trepidation. It's not like I have 100% confidence in it. I can at least envisage myself doing it though- which I struggle to with other methods. We all have to find the method we most feel comfortable with I suppose. Out of curiosity, what is your prefered method? Is the 'success' rate so much higher with it?

I prefer a gun or carbon monoxide, a gun is one of the most certain and lethal methods but it's very difficult to get a gun where I live. Carbon monoxide is a method I would like, it's more painless compared to other methods but it's also more complicated, I'm not sure how to do everything correctly by myself. I thought about decapitation by train, if the wheels of the train decapitate you then it's one of the fastest deaths, but because of suction and the speed of the train I'm not sure if the speed will move me even a little bit and make the method not work as I want it, if it will injure me instead. Another method I thought about is drowning, it's one of the most certain methods. What about you, is sn your method?

 

[Forever Sleep]

I prefer a gun or carbon monoxide, a gun is one of the most certain and lethal methods but it's very difficult to get a gun where I live. Carbon monoxide is a method I would like, it's more painless compared to other methods but it's also more complicated, I'm not sure how to do everything correctly by myself. I thought about decapitation by train, if the wheels of the train decapitate you then it's one of the fastest deaths, but because of suction and the speed of the train I'm not sure if the speed will move me even a little bit and make the method not work as I want it, if it will injure me instead. Another method I thought about is drowning, it's one of the most certain methods. What about you, is sn your method?

Yes, same here- firearms aren't easy to access. When I was younger, I thought firearms were guaranteed to work. Later on, it horrified me to learn that it is possible to miss. I guess it depends which type you have- the chances of success but, I know nothing about guns really.

There's more than just a successful attempt to consider though- I feel. I would prefer to not traumatize or endanger others. A very messy firearm death, jumping or train I'd rather not do because of the impact on others. That's not trying to shame those who resort to those methods. It's kind of inevitable, when other ways are so restricted. It's something I feel strongly about though.

CO has the potential to hurt and kill others- which deeply troubles me. Plus, fire frightens me. The thought of carrying smoldering trays of carcoal inside bothers me. None of the above would be good to fail either and, I'm not sure how you guarantee success with any of them. I'm pretty sure I've read of failed attempts with all the above methods too. Maybe more with SN but then, more people, at least here seem to choose it.

Yes, I do have SN ready. Truthfully, my ideal would be to have a backup method ready too. Inert gas is another one I at least believe I could do. Sourcing and storing the equipment puts me off though. My neighbours are nosey for one. Plus, I don't fancy another welfair check. I don't know how likely that is if I try sourcing other more obscure methods. I do wish it was guaranteed though- any method. It's bad enough we may go through the pain and fear of doing it. For it to possibly fail too, it's just horrible.

 

[aiyuxhan]

SN is very reliable, as long as you don't vomit it up too quickly.

If you manage to keep enough of it in your stomach, it is 100% lethal at the recommended dosage.

The people you see failing either deviated from protocol or vomited too quickly. The last data I've seen indicated an ~80% success rate.

That and also if you're not found by someone for at least a few hours. O:

Earlier today someone discussed the method of nuking every square inch of the earth's surface.

I would consider that 100% effective.

Only costs $600 trillion!

I was actually thinking about that today. If there is a possible WW3 and we all get nuked, we don't have to CTB lol jk

 

[tpboy]

i would say when compared to dropping a hairdryer into a full bathtub with you in it........SN is not that painful.

 

[TAW122]

I'm personally not using SN (for personal and logistical reasons), but for people who do have reliable access to SN, they choose it since it's the most reliable method they have among their own options. While it is not 100%, it may be close enough to success compared to other methods that they have access to and given it's relative peacefulness compared to other methods (not as brutal compared to violent methods of CTB).