Method Valium and alcohol overdose

[Raner]

I'm a 6'1, 145lbs, 22 year old male (UK). I don't have enough time or freedom currently to construct an exit bag. I'm confident I will be able to get benzos at least as strong as valium. Currently planning to find somewhere isolated drink a bottle of whiskey and take around 150mg of valium. I'm fine with the idea of entering a coma also but would much prefer to CTB. I may be able to get shrooms or other drugs to add into the mix too to make things more interesting but would like to avoid unnecessary pain. (To clarify I have low alcohol tolerance and have never taken any drugs before).

If anyone is curious I am fine explaining why I see this as my only option, my story is pretty interesting if not horrific.

Any advice would be appreciated on if there might be better methods available to me or any tweaks I could make.

 

[Nickreading]

I'm a 6'1, 145lbs, 22 year old male (UK). I don't have enough time or freedom currently to construct an exit bag. I'm confident I will be able to get benzos at least as strong as valium. Currently planning to find somewhere isolated drink a bottle of whiskey and take around 150mg of valium. I'm fine with the idea of entering a coma also but would much prefer to CTB. I may be able to get shrooms or other drugs to add into the mix too to make things more interesting but would like to avoid unnecessary pain. (To clarify I have low alcohol tolerance and have never taken any drugs before).

If anyone is curious I am fine explaining why I see this as my only option, my story is pretty interesting if not horrific.

Any advice would be appreciated on if there might be better methods available to me or any tweaks I could make.

I'd like to hear your story

 

[gothbird]

I'm going to answer this scientifically and compassionately, because I believe that if someone is going to ask, they at least deserve the facts.

First: 150mg of diazepam/valium and a bottle of whiskey is not a guaranteed method of CTB. It's a strong sedative combination, yes, but far from reliably lethal, especially for a healthy 22 yo male with no prior benzo or alcohol use. The risk of falling into a coma or respiratory depression is real, but so is the risk of waking up with memory loss, cognitive impairment, or worse—no lasting harm but extreme emotional fallout.

Even with low tolerance, the body has significant reserves, and benzos on their own (even in high doses) are not reliably fatal unless paired with something that causes direct respiratory failure—usually high doses of barbiturates or opioids. Alcohol increases sedation, yes, but it also increases vomiting, aspiration risk, and accidental injury without providing guaranteed unconsciousness, let alone death.

The addition of shrooms would only increase unpredictability, not death. If anything, psilocybin has shown, in studies, to lower suicidal ideation for some users. In others, it can cause intense hallucinations, panic, or ego death, which you may not be mentally prepared for especially under emotional strain and intoxication.

So what is the most likely outcome from your described mix?

• Severe sedation
• Possible blackout or short coma
• Risk of choking, falling, or being found unresponsive and resuscitated
• No guarantee of death
• A significant chance of waking up disoriented, injured, or hospitalised

And because your bodyweight is relatively low, yes, the substances will hit you harder—but again, not necessarily fatally.

Too many people think benzos + alcohol = peaceful death. What it often equals is vomiting in a field, choking on it, or being found half-conscious and sectioned. I would read this thread which also goes into why this is not a good choice in method.

 

[Raner]

I'm going to answer this scientifically and compassionately, because I believe that if someone is going to ask, they at least deserve the facts.

First: 150mg of diazepam/valium and a bottle of whiskey is not a guaranteed method of CTB. It's a strong sedative combination, yes, but far from reliably lethal, especially for a healthy 22 yo male with no prior benzo or alcohol use. The risk of falling into a coma or respiratory depression is real, but so is the risk of waking up with memory loss, cognitive impairment, or worse—no lasting harm but extreme emotional fallout.

Even with low tolerance, the body has significant reserves, and benzos on their own (even in high doses) are not reliably fatal unless paired with something that causes direct respiratory failure—usually high doses of barbiturates or opioids. Alcohol increases sedation, yes, but it also increases vomiting, aspiration risk, and accidental injury without providing guaranteed unconsciousness, let alone death.

The addition of shrooms would only increase unpredictability, not death. If anything, psilocybin has shown, in studies, to lower suicidal ideation for some users. In others, it can cause intense hallucinations, panic, or ego death, which you may not be mentally prepared for especially under emotional strain and intoxication.

So what is the most likely outcome from your described mix?

• Severe sedation
• Possible blackout or short coma
• Risk of choking, falling, or being found unresponsive and resuscitated
• No guarantee of death
• A significant chance of waking up disoriented, injured, or hospitalised

And because your bodyweight is relatively low, yes, the substances will hit you harder—but again, not necessarily fatally.

Too many people think benzos + alcohol = peaceful death. What it often equals is vomiting in a field, choking on it, or being found half-conscious and sectioned. I would read this thread which also goes into why this is not a good choice in method.

I greatly appreciate your reply, time, and information. I'm more stable than when I wrote the original post, although I still plan on CTB but will likely need to find a more realistic and reliable method. Dying seems a lot harder than it should be. Either way, thank you for your time.

 

[Halfhourdays]

I greatly appreciate your reply, time, and information. I'm more stable than when I wrote the original post, although I still plan on CTB but will likely need to find a more realistic and reliable method. Dying seems a lot harder than it should be. Either way, thank you for your time.

Dying is such a chore. Way harder than it should be.

Benzos and alcohol... terrible way to ctb, great way to take an alcoholiday.

 

[Raner]

I'd like to hear your story

Most of my memories are completely destroyed or distorted due to extreme trauma. But what I can reliably tell you from records and my own memory is being kept in complete darkness with no food for days at a time in the same room for years of my childhood. Being left for dead in a puddle of my blood in my early teens with my bones hanging out after someone ran me over with a car and left. Never had any friends, any romantic or sexual desire, obviously no girlfriends. So I developed a complete distrust and aversion to being around anyone even family.

I feel absolutely zero satisfaction or happiness or enjoyment in anything, and have no want for anything besides sleep or death.

A culmination of events to form a super unlucky life that I still tried through just will power to build something from completely ripped away.

I wanted to die for a long time but more recently I was actually arrested on suspicion of being a pedophile and distributor of child pornography (which I should clarify I am not either and never have been either), so every device I used to work or survive with is taken and my reputation is obviously obliterated for the next 5 or so months it will take for all of my stuff to be scanned for my exoneration. The exact reason I was given for my arrest was apparently I had posted online somewhere that I had a daughter I was abusing (which being a virgin I obviously do not have), I have no memory of saying that but it's likely some passing joke I have made somewhere in some edgy internet chat room- which you know is wrong to do on some level but I don't feel like the response is necessary... Either way it could be argued I'm necessary collateral damage for the protection of children or that I deserve it for saying something so senseless, but to me anything besides the current reality is irrelevant and I simply wish to die as I cannot sustain any of my plans for a future which I was not even enthusiastic about in the first place.

When I was arrested I was treated as if I were already guilty with zero care shown towards me, I was given no food or drink, ignored, and left in a cell with no intervention or information on what was happening while having a psychotic episode that lasted for weeks after I was released even, at some point and some how I cut my arm open in my cell and was sent to a hospital and given medication.

This is just what came to mind right now but I'd say it's only around half of my actual issues.

Tldr: falsely accused of being a pedophile and mind breaking childhood trauma

I'm going to answer this scientifically and compassionately, because I believe that if someone is going to ask, they at least deserve the facts.

First: 150mg of diazepam/valium and a bottle of whiskey is not a guaranteed method of CTB. It's a strong sedative combination, yes, but far from reliably lethal, especially for a healthy 22 yo male with no prior benzo or alcohol use. The risk of falling into a coma or respiratory depression is real, but so is the risk of waking up with memory loss, cognitive impairment, or worse—no lasting harm but extreme emotional fallout.

Even with low tolerance, the body has significant reserves, and benzos on their own (even in high doses) are not reliably fatal unless paired with something that causes direct respiratory failure—usually high doses of barbiturates or opioids. Alcohol increases sedation, yes, but it also increases vomiting, aspiration risk, and accidental injury without providing guaranteed unconsciousness, let alone death.

The addition of shrooms would only increase unpredictability, not death. If anything, psilocybin has shown, in studies, to lower suicidal ideation for some users. In others, it can cause intense hallucinations, panic, or ego death, which you may not be mentally prepared for especially under emotional strain and intoxication.

So what is the most likely outcome from your described mix?

• Severe sedation
• Possible blackout or short coma
• Risk of choking, falling, or being found unresponsive and resuscitated
• No guarantee of death
• A significant chance of waking up disoriented, injured, or hospitalised

And because your bodyweight is relatively low, yes, the substances will hit you harder—but again, not necessarily fatally.

Too many people think benzos + alcohol = peaceful death. What it often equals is vomiting in a field, choking on it, or being found half-conscious and sectioned. I would read this thread which also goes into why this is not a good choice in method.

I also underestimated the dose I would be given, I currently have a bit over 300mg hidden, but still I need to find something more lethal to add into the mix. Sadly not much seems to be available in my country and current circumstances.

 

[nooppop2]

I'm a 6'1, 145lbs, 22 year old male (UK). I don't have enough time or freedom currently to construct an exit bag. I'm confident I will be able to get benzos at least as strong as valium. Currently planning to find somewhere isolated drink a bottle of whiskey and take around 150mg of valium. I'm fine with the idea of entering a coma also but would much prefer to CTB. I may be able to get shrooms or other drugs to add into the mix too to make things more interesting but would like to avoid unnecessary pain. (To clarify I have low alcohol tolerance and have never taken any drugs before).

If anyone is curious I am fine explaining why I see this as my only option, my story is pretty interesting if not horrific.

Any advice would be appreciated on if there might be better methods available to me or any tweaks I could make.

I'm a 23 male from the uk, I've had so many attempts with benzos and alcohol and even mixed in an opioid. All that happened was I blacked out and then wake up a few days later in hospital feeling like shit and not remembering what happened

 

[Raner]

I'm a 23 male from the uk, I've had so many attempts with benzos and alcohol and even mixed in an opioid. All that happened was I blacked out and then wake up a few days later in hospital feeling like shit and not remembering what happened

Blacking out and having a "death-like" or temporary coma sounds nice besides the actual feeling like shit after waking up part. Being temporarily impaired or more detached from life would also be nice. What I absolutely would need to avoid is long lasting disability or brain damage though with any method I would attempt.

 

[nooppop2]

Blacking out and having a "death-like" or temporary coma sounds nice besides the actual feeling like shit after waking up part. Being temporarily impaired or more detached from life would also be nice. What I absolutely would need to avoid is long lasting disability or brain damage though with any method I would attempt.

That last bit is what scares me the most. How scary would it be to wake up and have to live with the suffering 100x worse and potentially be too disabled to even ctb again :/

 

[AutisticAcademic]

It's extremely hard to die by overdose of alcohol and/or benzos. You're more likely to die detoxing off them. You can use them in combination with another method, such as drowning, but I can't see how they could reliably work on their own.

 

[ElTopo]

I'm going to answer this scientifically and compassionately, because I believe that if someone is going to ask, they at least deserve the facts.

First: 150mg of diazepam/valium and a bottle of whiskey is not a guaranteed method of CTB. It's a strong sedative combination, yes, but far from reliably lethal, especially for a healthy 22 yo male with no prior benzo or alcohol use. The risk of falling into a coma or respiratory depression is real, but so is the risk of waking up with memory loss, cognitive impairment, or worse—no lasting harm but extreme emotional fallout.

Even with low tolerance, the body has significant reserves, and benzos on their own (even in high doses) are not reliably fatal unless paired with something that causes direct respiratory failure—usually high doses of barbiturates or opioids. Alcohol increases sedation, yes, but it also increases vomiting, aspiration risk, and accidental injury without providing guaranteed unconsciousness, let alone death.

The addition of shrooms would only increase unpredictability, not death. If anything, psilocybin has shown, in studies, to lower suicidal ideation for some users. In others, it can cause intense hallucinations, panic, or ego death, which you may not be mentally prepared for especially under emotional strain and intoxication.

So what is the most likely outcome from your described mix?

• Severe sedation
• Possible blackout or short coma
• Risk of choking, falling, or being found unresponsive and resuscitated
• No guarantee of death
• A significant chance of waking up disoriented, injured, or hospitalised

And because your bodyweight is relatively low, yes, the substances will hit you harder—but again, not necessarily fatally.

Too many people think benzos + alcohol = peaceful death. What it often equals is vomiting in a field, choking on it, or being found half-conscious and sectioned. I would read this thread which also goes into why this is not a good choice in method.

I too am interested in this method and was scrolling through this thread.
I'm considering alcohol + antiemetics (although I don't know what type of antiemetics)...
I'm a very muscular man, 24, low fat, drink and smoke regularly but no medications. Would two or so bottles of tequila do it? If not you say it could cause injuries, are the physical impairments that can follow this method permanent? I really need some info

 

[Lostmyonlyson]

I too am interested in this method and was scrolling through this thread.
I'm considering alcohol + antiemetics (although I don't know what type of antiemetics)...
I'm a very muscular man, 24, low fat, drink and smoke regularly but no medications. Would two or so bottles of tequila do it? If not you say it could cause injuries, are the physical impairments that can follow this method permanent? I really need some info

This is a very, very bad and innefective way to go. At the best you would go into a coma and die after many days, but most likely you would just vomit the alcohol even if you follow a antiemetics protocol (taking something like metoclopramide for a few days and then a higher dose before the act), high chance of being found and have severe health and psychological consequences (the coma would most likely leave you brain damaged and you would be found in deplorable state).

Rule of thumb is, any form of poisoning is an innefective and painfull way to die.

 

[gothbird]

I too am interested in this method and was scrolling through this thread.
I'm considering alcohol + antiemetics (although I don't know what type of antiemetics)...
I'm a very muscular man, 24, low fat, drink and smoke regularly but no medications. Would two or so bottles of tequila do it? If not you say it could cause injuries, are the physical impairments that can follow this method permanent? I really need some info

Just to clarify, are you planning to combine alcohol + antiemetics + Valium, or just alcohol + antiemetics?

That makes a substantial difference to the outcome, so I'll outline both possibilities below (even though I'm assuming you mean with valium because...well this is a valium thread).

Alcohol + antiemetics + valium is a commonly discussed way to CTB. The idea is to use high proof alcohol (e.g. tequila, vodka), antiemetics to prevent vomiting and benzos (typically diazepam/Valium, but others like lorazepam or temazepam may be used) to sedate and suppress respiratory function.
This combination can cause fatal respiratory depression in high enough doses, especially when fasting, but it is extremely unpredictable and body dependent. Given your age, muscular build, and regular alcohol use, your tolerance is likely to be very high, meaning even large amounts may not be sufficient.
If I was to eyeball it, I'd say fast for 12-15 hours, two full bottles, 20mg of your AE an hour before and then begin with 20mg of valium, then 10–20mg every 10–15 mins during alcohol phase. But I have no clue really, this is just off of what I've read about this kind of combo overdose. I honestly don't recommend overdoses fullstop, even with booze. It's a trash way to CTB and unreliable. Read this post about non-methods!
The amount of tequila required to reliably cause death, even with benzos, is often well beyond what the body can tolerate without vomiting or becoming semi conscious too early, leading to incomplete overdose, aspiration, or liver damage. People frequently pass out before consuming enough, or vomit most of it back up.

If it's just alcohol + antiemetics it is far less likely to be lethal on its own (but I'm pretty sure you mean this with valium), especially in someone with high alcohol tolerance and no concurrent medications. Alcohol alone is not a reliable CTB method, even in large volumes.

I hope you find peace if you seek it.

 

[imOK]

Many good things have been said. I also want to add that in this current emotional state, I'd avoid hallucinogenics like shrooms, should you still consider experimenting with them. They have the tendency to amplify emotions so if you don't want to feel even worse and more depressed I would avoid them in general right now. They do have quite the therapeutic benefit too but you kind of need to have experience and the right mindset with them. I'm pointing this out because I am experienced with hallucinogens and I frankly couldn't imagine something more psychologically scarring and horrifying than a cbt-attempt on shrooms. I physically cringed when I imagined it.

 

[ElTopo]

Just to clarify, are you planning to combine alcohol + antiemetics + Valium, or just alcohol + antiemetics?

That makes a substantial difference to the outcome, so I'll outline both possibilities below (even though I'm assuming you mean with valium because...well this is a valium thread).

Alcohol + antiemetics + valium is a commonly discussed way to CTB. The idea is to use high proof alcohol (e.g. tequila, vodka), antiemetics to prevent vomiting and benzos (typically diazepam/Valium, but others like lorazepam or temazepam may be used) to sedate and suppress respiratory function.
This combination can cause fatal respiratory depression in high enough doses, especially when fasting, but it is extremely unpredictable and body dependent. Given your age, muscular build, and regular alcohol use, your tolerance is likely to be very high, meaning even large amounts may not be sufficient.
If I was to eyeball it, I'd say fast for 12-15 hours, two full bottles, 20mg of your AE an hour before and then begin with 20mg of valium, then 10–20mg every 10–15 mins during alcohol phase. But I have no clue really, this is just off of what I've read about this kind of combo overdose. I honestly don't recommend overdoses fullstop, even with booze. It's a trash way to CTB and unreliable. Read this post about non-methods!
The amount of tequila required to reliably cause death, even with benzos, is often well beyond what the body can tolerate without vomiting or becoming semi conscious too early, leading to incomplete overdose, aspiration, or liver damage. People frequently pass out before consuming enough, or vomit most of it back up.

If it's just alcohol + antiemetics it is far less likely to be lethal on its own (but I'm pretty sure you mean this with valium), especially in someone with high alcohol tolerance and no concurrent medications. Alcohol alone is not a reliable CTB method, even in large volumes.

I hope you find peace if you seek it.

I actually meant without valium but after your reply I'll look into it. I assume death isn't peaceful in this case

 

[Raner]

Many good things have been said. I also want to add that in this current emotional state, I'd avoid hallucinogenics like shrooms, should you still consider experimenting with them. They have the tendency to amplify emotions so if you don't want to feel even worse and more depressed I would avoid them in general right now. They do have quite the therapeutic benefit too but you kind of need to have experience and the right mindset with them. I'm pointing this out because I am experienced with hallucinogens and I frankly couldn't imagine something more psychologically scarring and horrifying than a cbt-attempt on shrooms. I physically cringed when I imagined it.

Yeah my original post was pretty childish and emotional, half method and half "venting" or just expressing a want to be in any other reality than this one and shrooms have that connotation lol. But yeah I would imagine it'd be quite something. I think my current plan now is to find a reliable method, maybe try again at some welding places for nitrogen and have a good and proper way out for when I'm emotionally charged or psychotic enough to fully embrace CTB. But I'm much more stable now on medication and in not as much of a rush as I was, still I feel like everyone even just for basic peace of mind should have access to an easy and painless way out- it might even incentivise society to improve rather than trapping people in a hell they didn't ask for.