Help This is the first time i’ve felt something like guilt or empathy or something. This is absolutely terrible, someone please help me get it to stop.

[primadonna_]

For background, I live with sociopathy, meaning I have anti social personality disorder. Guilt is definitely not common for me, and I almost never feel it. Recently, I started feeling this weird tightness in my chest or my stomach and i'm pretty sure this is what it feels like because I got it when I almost ran over a rabbit or I see like depressing videos online. This is terrible, I don't know if this is some affect from me being deprived of the opportunity to be a bitch, or that i'm "getting better," but it's terrible and I NEED it to stop. I'm so confused, and I hate this I literally cannot live with this. I don't even actually feel guilty, just this weird physical sensation is absolutely terrible. Someone PLEASE give me some ideas how to get this to stop, literally anything this is so ass.

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

Unfortunately, getting it to stop completely probably isn't an option.

Do you have a therapist? Because it's a good idea to unpack whether this phantom feeling is more akin to guilt or empathy.

Feeling guilty when watching a sad video isn't really a good thing. It can become unhealthy for some people by leading to moral obsessions and complusions. Feeling empathetic is something that fits both examples you have. I'd assume affective empathy based on your description.

 

[callmeskin]

i also have aspd, sometimes feelings do come which i rarely feel and its overwhelming. Isn't much to do about it except distracting yourself or just accepting that the feeling is natural and it will eventually pass.

 

[primadonna_]

Unfortunately, getting it to stop completely probably isn't an option.

Do you have a therapist? Because it's a good idea to unpack whether this phantom feeling is more akin to guilt or empathy.

Feeling guilty when watching a sad video isn't really a good thing. It can become unhealthy for some people by leading to moral obsessions and complusions. Feeling empathetic is something that fits both examples you have. I'd assume affective empathy based on your description.

this actually sucks how do people live like this. I talked to my therapist and apparently since apparently i'm on the pretty far end of the aspd spectrum, even if I was having physical reactions it wouldn't do anything because it wouldn't affect my behavior since i'm not actually feeling it in my head and it's probably a hormonal thing… thank god, but i would literally do anything to get this to stop indefinitely.

 

[thelostautistic]

This must be really overwhelming for you to experience for the first time. I'm not sure if there's a way to get it to stop completely. But talking about it and time will hopefully help it to subside a little

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

this actually sucks how do people live like this. I talked to my therapist and apparently since apparently i'm on the pretty far end of the aspd spectrum, even if I was having physical reactions it wouldn't do anything because it wouldn't affect my behavior since i'm not actually feeling it in my head and it's probably a hormonal thing… thank god, but i would literally do anything to get this to stop indefinitely.

I honestly don't have that many memories of back when I had affective empathy, but it was rough because I used to be hyper-empathetic. My BPD, I find, is more associated with what little affective empathy I have. I fully believe had some things not happened in my life, I would have ended up just your average borderline instead of a narcissist too.

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[primadonna_]

I honestly don't have that many memories of back when I had affective empathy, but it was rough because I used to be hyper-empathetic. My BPD, I find, is more associated with what little affective empathy I have. I fully believe had some things not happened in my life, I would have ended up just your average borderline instead of a narcissist too.

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oh yeah what actually triggered that weird physical reaction is that i was in the car with my mom (don't know if ive mentioned this already im too lazy to check) and we almost ran over some rabbits. I don't know if it's because I had a pet rabbit for most of my life (probably that ngl) but that weird feeling sucked i lit never wanna feel that again

 

[Obliviate]

I'm crazy jealous. I have the opposite. Overly empathetic and overly emotional/thoughtful/adhd. It drives me insane. Wish I was like you except don't want to hurt animals.

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

I'm crazy jealous. I have the opposite. Overly empathetic and overly emotional/thoughtful/adhd. It drives me insane. Wish I was like you except don't want to hurt animals.

People with ASPD and other empathy-lacking neurodivergencies can have ADHD, to be fair.

 

[Obliviate]

People with ASPD and other empathy-lacking neurodivergencies can have ADHD, to be fair.

I wonder how that works? Like you feel nothing but your mind races with a million thoughts a second? or is it a low adhd?

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

I wonder how that works? Like you feel nothing but your mind races with a million thoughts a second? or is it a low adhd?

ASPD is a spectrum, so it depends. And empathy isn't inherently tied to emotions anyway, so for other "apathetic" disorders it doesn't change much ADHD-wise. I feel plenty of emotions/thoughts, it's actually one of the main reasons I'm suicidal. I lack Affective Empathy all the same.

 

[leloyon]

People with ASPD and other empathy-lacking neurodivergencies can have ADHD, to be fair.

(source, tho i got it from a video about azumanga daioh lmao)

 

[phoebusapollo]

I'm crazy jealous. I have the opposite. Overly empathetic and overly emotional/thoughtful/adhd. It drives me insane. Wish I was like you except don't want to hurt animals.

I am jealous and I also have the opposite. It's a huge problem. Also in my experience I somehow attract humans who are narcissistic and lack empathy. Also I cry a lot.

 

[Bootleg Astolfo]

I personally distract myself by watching Spice And Wolf (2024)

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

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(source, tho i got it from a video about azumanga daioh lmao)

Okay now I'm curious if there's research on ADHD and NPD. Off the top of my head all I can think of is the prevalence of narcissistic traits in autism + the comorbidity of autism and ADHD.

 

[Obliviate]

I am jealous and I also have the opposite. It's a huge problem. Also in my experience I somehow attract humans who are narcissistic and lack empathy. Also I cry a lot.

It's something about us. We attract the bad horrible people like crazy. Everytime I step out the house, disgustingly rude people always spot me and just have to assault me. I feel like they can sense our high vibration energy and just want to feed off it. Energy harvesting. I wish I could feel nothing. I want empathy because empathy=humanity, i Just don't want to feel too much.

 

[NormallyNeurotic]

It's something about us. We attract the bad horrible people like crazy. Everytime I step out the house, disgustingly rude people always spot me and just have to assault me. I feel like they can sense our high vibration energy and just want to feed off it. Energy harvesting. I wish I could feel nothing. I want empathy because empathy=humanity, i Just don't want to feel too much.

Saying that empathy=humanity on a thread started by a person with ASPD is wild. I get the feeling that you don't know that there are three types of empathy, and that none of them equal compassion.

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(source, tho i got it from a video about azumanga daioh lmao)

Update: Found it! Oh the things I could do if I had access to these articles, man.

 

[primadonna_]

It's something about us. We attract the bad horrible people like crazy. Everytime I step out the house, disgustingly rude people always spot me and just have to assault me. I feel like they can sense our high vibration energy and just want to feed off it. Energy harvesting. I wish I could feel nothing. I want empathy because empathy=humanity, i Just don't want to feel too much.

gal honestly not feeling it at all is so lit like does humanity even matter like you can literally do anything it's so amazing, and you can't get guilt tripped or anything this is the life

Saying that empathy=humanity on a thread started by a person with ASPD is wild. I get the feeling that you don't know that there are three types of empathy, and that none of them equal compassion.

Update: Found it! Oh the things I could do if I had access to these articles, man.
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omg yes thanks for this i literally read everything and thought i was being dissed i was so confused </3

I wonder how that works? Like you feel nothing but your mind races with a million thoughts a second? or is it a low adhd?

Nope, not at all. I have severe combined type adhd, which was not masked at all lollll

it's a common misconception that people with this disorder don't feel anything at all, which isn't true at all. You can still feel emotions but they're just super blunted. As an example, even if i did get that physical reaction of guilt if I was hypothetically emotionally or physically hurting someone it still doesn't activate that internal break that gets you to stop since emotions like that are blunted. I'm still affected by adhd, even the emotional disregulation part, I can't focus without meds, have bad memory and everything that comes with it, when it comes to adhd just a mostly normal experience.

 

[phoebusapollo]

It's something about us. We attract the bad horrible people like crazy. Everytime I step out the house, disgustingly rude people always spot me and just have to assault me. I feel like they can sense our high vibration energy and just want to feed off it. Energy harvesting. I wish I could feel nothing. I want empathy because empathy=humanity, i Just don't want to feel too much.

Yeah it's harvesting. I once got almost harvested to death. Interesting way to think about emotional abuse. At this point I don't want to feel anything anymore.

 

[SASU-KE]

I personally distract myself by watching Spice And Wolf (2024)

I felt a bit holo watching that.

Spoiler

Just kidding, it was all right.

 

[Bootleg Astolfo]

I felt a bit holo watching that.

Spoiler

Just kidding, it was all right.

yeah it needs a bit more spice (and wolf)