I wonder if anyone who says that has actively contemplated killing themselves. As in- actually properly thought about how it would feel to jump off a bridge, point a gun at their head and pull the trigger, drink some random poison in the hopes it will work.
I do admire people who overcome adversity- don't get me wrong. I also see the value in trying to hold on for the sake of other people- I'm trying to do that.
There has to be a good enough reason to stay though. Otherwise, what's the point? Why suffer needlessly? Why is it 'brave' to endure pain when you don't see the reason?
Also, what does it say about them that they have no qualms trapping a person in pain here by denying them release? Emotionally shaming/ blackmailing them to stay because they don't want to experience grief? Who's the more cowardly or selfish person in that situation?
Besides, what do they think we're likely to achieve by staying alive? Not meaning to sound cruel but, the majority of us are simply wage slaves. Maybe not even that if illness prevents us from contributing. We may be socially valuable to others but again- are we? Very unhappy people change. We may not really be who they remember anymore.
I think they want to believe that us staying alive will ultimately benefit us (as well as them/ society) but, what are the chances of that happening? Plus, it's no good them assessing that our lives should be good enough for us- they're not having to live them!
Another argument would be- which is braver? Compliance or rebellion? Surely, it's rebellion. It's the harder route. You get a lot more opposition/ grief for it. Suicide is the ultimate rebellion. It takes guts- not only to get over biological SI but to defy every moral/ social code we've been ingrained with. The consequences of screwing it up are also severe. People aren't always the most supportive towards suicude survivors.
Plus, it's a lonely path and a lonely and potentially frightening/ painful death. Asides from here, some people won't have told anyone what they're going through for fear of being abandoned or locked up. There's also the very real risk of failing the attempt and permanently maiming ourselves. It's a gamble ultimately. Cowards don't gamble with such high stakes!
I really just wish pro-lifers would mind their own business. Fine, if they like life enough to keep following the rules. I only hope it stays that way for them. Things can change in an instant. Fine if they want to pat themselves on the back for overcoming dreadful things. Not all people can though. Some don't even want to. What's the point in trying to 'win' a game/ contest that you didn't sign up for in the first place? That you'd much rather just resign from?
We don't berate a person quiting a game of chess or, quiting a job because it's no longer bringing them pleasure and/ or they know they can't succeed. It's weird the way life is seen as compulsory. Ok, there are more solutions to try and fix life than in a job or a game but I imagine most people who suicide have already tried multiple ways to 'fix' their lives. I tend to believe that most people who suicide have struggled for a while. I don't really buy that all that many are impulsive.
Most people here respect pro-lifers own life choices without belittling them. Why can't they try to do the same? Why do they resort to shaming and guilt tripping?