Venting the government can do anything it wants to you in this hellhole cut your benefits so you can't afford to live make you homeless

[Darkover]

The government can do anything it wants to you in this capitalist hellhole cut your benefits so you can't afford to live make you homeless and you just have to put up with it

The government has the power to do whatever it wants because it controls the laws, the economy, and the institutions that enforce them. If they decide to cut benefits, raise taxes, or change policies that make life harder, there's not much the average person can do to stop it. They justify these decisions with excuses like "budget constraints" or "reducing dependency," but in reality, it's about controlling resources and keeping people in a constant state of struggle so they don't have the time or energy to fight back.

They control the money, meaning they determine how much support people get through welfare, disability benefits, and public services. If they decide to cut funding, people who rely on it are left with no alternatives. They also control the laws, so even if policies are harmful, they are still legal because the government makes and enforces the rules. Protesting or resisting can be met with fines, arrests, or other legal consequences.

Housing is another major issue. Rising rents, lack of social housing, and rules that make it harder for people to get assistance all serve to make homelessness a growing problem. If benefits get cut, many can't afford rent, and the government doesn't care. The system isn't designed to help people—it's designed to function in a way that benefits the government and wealthy elites. If some people get crushed in the process, that's seen as an acceptable loss.

Even if people vote, protest, or complain, it rarely changes anything. The system is built to be unchangeable unless it benefits those in power. The people suffering the most have the least ability to challenge it because they're too busy just trying to survive. It's a vicious cycle—make people dependent, then cut off support and blame them for struggling. And if someone ends up homeless or starving, the government acts like it's their fault instead of the result of policies designed to keep people desperate.

 

[DivineSpark]

I am blessed to live in here, in my country. The government provides housing and meds. You get like 1500 euroes per month, 586 euroes goes to rent per month, but I am kinda ashamed, living on taxpayers money. I wanna be productive member of society.

 

[Darkover]

I am blessed to live in here, in my country. The government provides housing and meds. You get like 1500 euroes per month, 586 euroes goes to rent per month, but I am kinda ashamed, living on taxpayers money. I wanna be productive member of society.

i live in the uk get 1360£ plus rent paid for which is 455£ s grand total of 1815£ per month for single person in a one bed room flat
get meds paid for as well plus national health services, i have a brain injury and can't work at all as well as many other health problems

 

[divinemistress36]

I am blessed to live in here, in my country. The government provides housing and meds. You get like 1500 euroes per month, 586 euroes goes to rent per month, but I am kinda ashamed, living on taxpayers money. I wanna be productive member of society.

May I ask what country you in?

The government can do anything it wants to you in this capitalist hellhole cut your benefits so you can't afford to live make you homeless and you just have to put up with it

The government has the power to do whatever it wants because it controls the laws, the economy, and the institutions that enforce them. If they decide to cut benefits, raise taxes, or change policies that make life harder, there's not much the average person can do to stop it. They justify these decisions with excuses like "budget constraints" or "reducing dependency," but in reality, it's about controlling resources and keeping people in a constant state of struggle so they don't have the time or energy to fight back.

They control the money, meaning they determine how much support people get through welfare, disability benefits, and public services. If they decide to cut funding, people who rely on it are left with no alternatives. They also control the laws, so even if policies are harmful, they are still legal because the government makes and enforces the rules. Protesting or resisting can be met with fines, arrests, or other legal consequences.

Housing is another major issue. Rising rents, lack of social housing, and rules that make it harder for people to get assistance all serve to make homelessness a growing problem. If benefits get cut, many can't afford rent, and the government doesn't care. The system isn't designed to help people—it's designed to function in a way that benefits the government and wealthy elites. If some people get crushed in the process, that's seen as an acceptable loss.

Even if people vote, protest, or complain, it rarely changes anything. The system is built to be unchangeable unless it benefits those in power. The people suffering the most have the least ability to challenge it because they're too busy just trying to survive. It's a vicious cycle—make people dependent, then cut off support and blame them for struggling. And if someone ends up homeless or starving, the government acts like it's their fault instead of the result of policies designed to keep people desperate.

They take away peaceful ways to ctb yet want to cut our benefits and provide no way to help us contribute to society. We are expected to adapt to a sick society

 

[DivineSpark]

i live in the uk get 1360£ plus rent paid for which is 455£ s grand total of 1815£ per month for single person in a one bed room flat
get meds paid for as well plus national health services, i have a brain injury and can't work at all as well as many other health problems

I am sorry to hear about your struggle and health problems.

May I ask what country you in?

They take away peaceful ways to ctb yet want to cut our benefits and provide no way to help us contribute to society. We are expected to adapt to a sick society

I am from Finland, our healthcare and mental healthcare is top notch and it is quite affordable, but lately prices of everything has gone up, groceries and rent. 5 years ago rent was about 517 euroes, now it is 586 euroes. (41 square meters apartment)

 

[divinemistress36]

I am sorry to hear about your struggle and health problems.

I am from Finland, our healthcare and mental healthcare is top notch and it is quite affordable, but lately prices of everything has gone up, groceries and rent. 5 years ago rent was about 517 euroes, now it is 586 euroes. (41 square meters apartment)

The Scandinavia countries are the happiest. I heard doctors there will send patients to places like greece or somewhere sunny island for depression?

 

[DivineSpark]

The Scandinavia countries are the happiest. I heard doctors there will send patients to places like greece or somewhere sunny island for depression?

And this is why I feel ashamed. I live in happiest country on earth. I have no right to feel miserable, anxious and bad. I should be grateful.

 

[divinemistress36]

And this is why I feel ashamed. I live in happiest country on earth. I have no right to feel miserable, anxious and bad. I should be grateful.

Mental illness doesnt care how good your life is

 

[DivineSpark]

Mental illness doesnt care how good your life is

Indeed....

 

[davidtorez]

Damnnn... reading all this makes me ashamed of living in Australia. Our rents more expensive than what you guys have listed and I get less support from the government. Its totally fucked! No wonder the homelessness is growing in Australia!

 

[22yearsbroken]

Im so anxious and woeried at the moment i will lose my care pay my bills and lose the little bit of life i have due to this.. ive relapsed on my drinking as its prtty much .. i dont give a fuck anymore..

 

[Lost Magic]

 

[SoulCage]

It's a vicious cycle—make people dependent, then cut off support and blame them for struggling. And if someone ends up homeless or starving, the government acts like it's their fault instead of the result of policies designed to keep people desperate.

Like my mother always said:"make sure you have good grades and get your diploma, otherwise you are likely to end up in bad jobs or be homeless".
Jokes on you, I ended up in shit jobs despite graduating as a top student. She fed me the lies that were forced onto her by the system. A system that requires everyone to be always productive, to always put work before health, to be neurotypical, to have common desires, to exchange hours of our life for stupid jobs that only exist to satisfy shareholders that demand growth, growth, growth. To create meaningless plastic junk, to treat everything and everyone as a resource, to make us all dependent on things that are not accessible to us when we can't afford it and at the same time gets thrown away, because it didn't sell. I know that nature has always been about survival of the strongest, but I can't fucking believe that the majority of our species is still brainwashed into thinking that everyone has equal opportunities to improve life with some effort. If they would actually use their brains then they would realize that the economy REQUIRES for some people to work low wage jobs so that particular businesses can afford to exist. If we all suddenly decide to get a specialized eduction for a skilled job then everything would fall apart.
We are trapped - doomed to never or ever be free, because the people with money and wealth are in power.
There is no hope.

 

[Cauliflour]

And this is why I feel ashamed. I live in happiest country on earth. I have no right to feel miserable, anxious and bad. I should be grateful.

People aren't perfect. No matter how great you country's system is, the brain can come up with flaws. I mean, it's a fatty meat slab build on electricity, do you really think something like that can be perfectly content 100% of the time? No. You can feel grateful while also acknowledging that you want to be more independent and not have to rely on government money, which is perfectly valid. The future can be uncertain and security brings comfort. Don't feel ashamed that you feel like you're not grateful enough, feel determined to try to improve yourself one step at the time. I wish you the best of luck and hope that inflation doesn't strike you down. :)
I've basically accepted that I'll never be able to buy a house or a flat in my twenties and strangely enough that brings comfort to me. I suppose it's like

"well, things suck, let's turn it into a dark comedy!".

I would rather stay at my parents' house than throw money down the drain for rent. At least with the former I can save up.

 

[Ijustcantanymore]

I am blessed to live in here, in my country. The government provides housing and meds. You get like 1500 euroes per month, 586 euroes goes to rent per month, but I am kinda ashamed, living on taxpayers money. I wanna be productive member of society.

Ugh not the "productive member of society" capitalist propaganda. I swear I wish I could just thanos snap all the capitalists away for convincing people of this utter bullshit.

You don't need to produce anything in order to deserve life, comfort and happiness. Please break free of this crap. I beg you.

 

[Cauliflour]

Ugh not the "productive member of society" capitalist propaganda. I swear I wish I could just thanos snap all the capitalists away for convincing people of this utter bullshit.

You don't need to produce anything in order to deserve life, comfort and happiness. Please break free of this crap. I beg you.

But people do produce stuff even if they don't have a job: the relationships between other people. Not to mention stuff like buying things but that's not really that poetic.

I want to clarify though that capitalism itself isn't a bad concept; it's the greedy people at the top that make it bad. The idea is rooted in hunter gatherer times where everyone in the tribe had a role to play in order to keep the community thriving, such as fishing, fixing tents, making clothes, building walls, taking care of the dogs etc. However, due to everyone and everything being scattered now, there isn't that sense of community and with corporatism (which is a form of capitalism and is what most people think capitalism is only), you don't see the effects of your work much because you're just a number on a spreadsheet so people assume it's all worthless. In the tribe days, you could see your work instantly and in front of you as there would be fish for dinner or there would be a wall around you, but in the modern day, your efforts barely show up if at all so I can see how some people can view it all as worthless but it does do something, you just can't see it exactly; things like the departments in big corporations who do surveys on which form of advertisement is the most effective.

Say in this hypothetical your job is to make the coffee for the people making the surveys. You may think your job is pointless but it still has an effect as now the people running are more focused so they can produce better surveys which get clearer answers which then get sent to the advertising department to make a better advert which then encourages more people to buy whatever the thing and the company gets more money and everyone in that chain may get a bonus of a sort depending on how nice the people at the top are. You see how your little role helps this domino chain within the company but you wouldn't see that at first glance. This is much more noticeable in smaller businesses as that domino chain is much smaller but then you also have factors like what if that thing you were advertising turns out to be the thing someone was looking for (like a good electric mixer) and due to the way it was advertised, it convinced them to buy it and now they're happy and they tell their friends on Facebook which then starts a longer domino chain.

People need to do their part in order to support the economy (the modern tribe) but you shouldn't feel obliged to overwork yourself to achieve that. If everyone was unemployed and living off benefits then everything would collapse and nothing will innovate but if everyone was acting like the cog in the machine that the ultra rich want you to be, then everything would collapse like what's going on in South Korea and Japan where their populations are collapsing because everyone is working instead of dating and getting to know other people. You need a balance where you spend some of your time working in a part of the system that you like (or at least tolerate) and some of your time enjoying yourself. Y'know, like work and reward cause people need to make things that you use in your leisure time, like TV shows and theme parks.

Basically what I'm trying to say is: capitalism good, corporatism bad.

Socialism is also good but it has to be in balance with capitalism and vice versa (like a yin yang) otherwise you either end up like The Soviet Union or Victorian England.

Then again, I want to run my own little business in the future so I'm obviously biased.

 

[imOK]

I currrently have a lawsuit going bacause of this very reason. Government tried to cut my benefits.

I wish I could say it was the first lawsuit of that kind. It's in fact the third. I won the other two, and am poised to win this one. Usually the person responsible for the illegal cut doesn't even bother showing up in court or giving the needed documents (because the shit they're doing is illegal and they know it) and I get a default ruling. There's been no reason whatsoever for alll of this, my status is very well documented, everything is entirely clear and on the level from my side (and the courts always agree with this, too). All this legal drama costs the government more than it would to just pay my benefits. Regarding the cuts, we're talking about low, two-digit euro sums in my case. It's ridiciolous that this has to go to court. But I know my rights and defend them very aggressively and they're never prepared for that.

It's all about wearing you down and saving money wherever they can. They don't give a shit about you. I'm not surprised about it because if even the highest-level politicans do their election campaigns by calling you a social parasite, it just encourages such behavior. I'm glad I'm noping out soon. Tired of dealing with this garbage.

 

[Ijustcantanymore]

But people do produce stuff even if they don't have a job: the relationships between other people. Not to mention stuff like buying things but that's not really that poetic.

I want to clarify though that capitalism itself isn't a bad concept; it's the greedy people at the top that make it bad. The idea is rooted in hunter gatherer times where everyone in the tribe had a role to play in order to keep the community thriving, such as fishing, fixing tents, making clothes, building walls, taking care of the dogs etc. However, due to everyone and everything being scattered now, there isn't that sense of community and with corporatism (which is a form of capitalism and is what most people think capitalism is only), you don't see the effects of your work much because you're just a number on a spreadsheet so people assume it's all worthless. In the tribe days, you could see your work instantly and in front of you as there would be fish for dinner or there would be a wall around you, but in the modern day, your efforts barely show up if at all so I can see how some people can view it all as worthless but it does do something, you just can't see it exactly; things like the departments in big corporations who do surveys on which form of advertisement is the most effective.

Say in this hypothetical your job is to make the coffee for the people making the surveys. You may think your job is pointless but it still has an effect as now the people running are more focused so they can produce better surveys which get clearer answers which then get sent to the advertising department to make a better advert which then encourages more people to buy whatever the thing and the company gets more money and everyone in that chain may get a bonus of a sort depending on how nice the people at the top are. You see how your little role helps this domino chain within the company but you wouldn't see that at first glance. This is much more noticeable in smaller businesses as that domino chain is much smaller but then you also have factors like what if that thing you were advertising turns out to be the thing someone was looking for (like a good electric mixer) and due to the way it was advertised, it convinced them to buy it and now they're happy and they tell their friends on Facebook which then starts a longer domino chain.

People need to do their part in order to support the economy (the modern tribe) but you shouldn't feel obliged to overwork yourself to achieve that. If everyone was unemployed and living off benefits then everything would collapse and nothing will innovate but if everyone was acting like the cog in the machine that the ultra rich want you to be, then everything would collapse like what's going on in South Korea and Japan where their populations are collapsing because everyone is working instead of dating and getting to know other people. You need a balance where you spend some of your time working in a part of the system that you like (or at least tolerate) and some of your time enjoying yourself. Y'know, like work and reward cause people need to make things that you use in your leisure time, like TV shows and theme parks.

Basically what I'm trying to say is: capitalism good, corporatism bad.

Socialism is also good but it has to be in balance with capitalism and vice versa (like a yin yang) otherwise you either end up like The Soviet Union or Victorian England.

Then again, I want to run my own little business in the future so I'm obviously biased.

Any system that relies on a class system is never good. For capitalism to function. It needs poverty to exist. It needs people at the bottom to exploit. Capitalism is inherently in its nature exploitative. That's how it functions. There is no defending that.

People only think it's good because you've been brainwashed to worship money above human life. Defend it all you want. It's the root of our problems. It's one of the most destructive things to happen to our species. It's killing our planet.bits turning the world fascist. It's crap. But powerful people who benefit the most from it need people like you to defend it. And you do it so well. Which is honestly one of the reasons I want to ctb and for why i want humans annihilated.

Also if your small business can't afford to pay living wages, then I hope it fails. Because capitalism also relies in paying poverty wages, because it's all about profit.

It's time for something different. This shit sucks and at this point, it's no longer respectable.

 

[Cauliflour]

Any system that relies on a class system is never good. For capitalism to function. It needs poverty to exist. It needs people at the bottom to exploit. Capitalism is inherently in its nature exploitative. That's how it functions. There is no defending that.

Humans need some form of leadership to function. Teachers, parents, club leaders, even communism has leaders. You can achieve a good capitalist society by using sociaism to make sure that the people at the bottom have an adequate life and have the ability to go further up the classes. That's the whole point of benefits: to give you financial aid so you can get back up on your feet and not fall into homelessness and/or crime.

The problem becomes when benefits aren't managed well enough or the system itself isn't managed well enough so it's near impossible to get off benefits out of your own volition and more people need it which means more taxes on the middle class which then causes more people to need benefits and it turns into a spiral. Benefits are important but there also needs to be adequate support to help them get off benefits so they can be financially independent, which I imagine is quite hard considering no places seem to actually be hiring.

People only think it's good because you've been brainwashed to worship money above human life. Defend it all you want. It's the root of our problems.

Greed is the route of our problems. Money is essentially a specific trade. Trade has been around since humanity as a way to collaborate with other tribes. If we have no more money then people would pay in trade again, which would eventually lead to a trade standardisation to make things fairer (so people can trade things of similar value) and would you know it? We just re-invented money.

t's killing our planet.bits turning the world fascist. It's crap. But powerful people who benefit the most from it need people like you to defend it. And you do it so well.

I'm not defending the rich and powerful. Fuck them, they're just milking us without putting in any actual effort. I don't think you even understood what my entire post was about. I wasn't defending the horrible people who exploit the poor for money. I'm defending the concept of capitalism because it's not a bloody bad thing. Greed is a bad thing. Corporatism, which is essentially capitalism by greedy rich people, is a bad thing. Wanting to get a form of compensation for a skill you have isn't a bad thing.

You sound like one of those communist wannabes who think everything about money and business is bad and just want everything to go to anarchy. You can't fathom the idea of moderation because you only see things in extremes and because you're one extreme, that must mean the other side is all just extreme also. Please take some time to think about what you say. Understand the patterns of civilisations and why people act the way they do.

Also if your small business can't afford to pay living wages, then I hope it fails. Because capitalism also relies in paying poverty wages, because it's all about profit.

That's corporatism. Any small business owner with a brain understands that paying a good wage to the workers is essential to keep it running long term as people are more willing to put in the bare minimum if they don't have to work 2 extra jobs just to pay rent. It's why jobs come with stuff like paid holidays. Corporations are run by idiots who only see you as numbers on a spreadsheet so they don't care, they just want more money, but a small business owner can't easily get away with it because if they lose those workers, they can't easily get new ones so you have to make sure you treat those workers fairly so that they stay for a decent amount of time. You can achieve this by starting on a living wage (I would personally go a bit above a living wage just to make sure) and then increase it the more years they stay and if they do a great job, promote them so there's an intensive to work hard because there's a payoff. Yeah sure, the owner wouldn't have as much money in the short term, but in the long term you get a great reputation which means more people are willing to work for you thus making it easier to expand which means you earn more money, and that's something corporations don't seem to understand. You can easily get more money by firing half your staff but reputation takes months if not years to develop, and if it goes down then everything starts to fall apart. Especially in the modern day where anyone can tweet about how bad the working conditions are.

It's time for something different. This shit sucks and at this point, it's no longer respectable.

That's why the Communist Manifesto was written which became the core ideology of the Soviet Union and surprise surprise, there were still rich people at the top but now the poor people's hard work means even less.