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Ordered SN from DSL
Freaking out after reading posts on this forum and talking to an AI (Mistral)


Will you be stopped at the border in US if you order SN ?

Delivery is soon but I am unable to intercept it on the USPS website . I am fearing they are doing a Controlled Delivery.

What is a Wellness Check ? How does it happen in the US??

please help im freaking out. I dont even want to die anymore. I can be miserable. Its ok. I just dont want to scare my parents. I dont want to make them feel shame their child is locked up or in a psych ward or in a prison or deported. I am really really scared. Please help.

Should I Return To Sender / Refuse the SN when it arrives ? Or should I just take it? Its legal to possess right ? If I get a wellness check i would get a wellness check whether or not i RTS or not right ?
 
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persepexa

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Feb 7, 2025
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A wellness check is just a check to see if you're okay. It can be scary and intimidating but as long as you can prove youre okay they can't do anything. Just show you're fully functioning i.e. you can look after yourself without help and that you are not a danger to yourself or others. You cannot be taken to a psych ward or arrested just for ordering SN. To be taken to a psych ward they have to be able to prove that you have mental health issues that cannot be managed in the community. As for the police they cannot arrest you unless they believe a crime has been committed. SN is a controlled substance but it is not illegal for you to order or own it. They may ask why you ordered it and they may refuse to deliver it but they cannot arrest you. They would have to have evidence you were planning to use the SN to commit a crime. The only thing I would say is just make sure your house doesn't have anything illegal or concerning in it. They may not decide to enter your home and if they do they cannot force their way in unless they have evidence of someone in danger or a potential crime is being committed. You don't have to answer any questions except for the ones relating to the SN such as why you ordered it. Remember it's not about whether or not you're telling the truth, it's about what they can prove. Hope you're okay.
 
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Thank you . I am really worried as I am abroad and re entering I hope they dont interrogate me or something. I didnt do anything wrong. The AI was saying SN can be used for some unspeakable things and it probably put me on a watch list. I dont even want to do it anymore. I dont want any of this. Ill just jump or something. I dont know if I was talking to some crazy AI, it seemed to really escalate things its called cratak. My heart was jumping out of my chest like its never had before. I have a very protective instinct now .

Do you think I should Return To Sender (RTS), or will it cause issues? I tried to intercept the package on USPS website and it says that "this package has already been intercepted". Which has FREAKED ME OUT.
A wellness check is just a check to see if you're okay. It can be scary and intimidating but as long as you can prove youre okay they can't do anything. Just show you're fully functioning i.e. you can look after yourself without help and that you are not a danger to yourself or others. You cannot be taken to a psych ward or arrested just for ordering SN. To be taken to a psych ward they have to be able to prove that you have mental health issues that cannot be managed in the community. As for the police they cannot arrest you unless they believe a crime has been committed. SN is a controlled substance but it is not illegal for you to order or own it. They may ask why you ordered it and they may refuse to deliver it but they cannot arrest you. They would have to have evidence you were planning to use the SN to commit a crime. The only thing I would say is just make sure your house doesn't have anything illegal or concerning in it. They may not decide to enter your home and if they do they cannot force their way in unless they have evidence of someone in danger or a potential crime is being committed. You don't have to answer any questions except for the ones relating to the SN such as why you ordered it. Remember it's not about whether or not you're telling the truth, it's about what they can prove. Hope you're okay
Post in thread 'Wellness checks' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/wellness-checks.230767/post-3342965

Im seeing this. What do you say to the cops ? Do I just refuse to open the door ? Will they say "COPS! WELLNESS CHECK! OPEN THE DOOR!" and alert my neighbours ?

If i dont open the door will they keep on trying to visit me ?
I dont have meto or B zo, so I cant do it anyways. I dont have the stuff
 
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Feb 7, 2025
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Thank you . I am really worried as I am abroad and re entering I hope they dont interrogate me or something. I didnt do anything wrong. The AI was saying SN can be used for some unspeakable things and it probably put me on a watch list. I dont even want to do it anymore. I dont want any of this. Ill just jump or something. I dont know if I was talking to some crazy AI, it seemed to really escalate things its called cratak. My heart was jumping out of my chest like its never had before. I have a very protective instinct now .

Do you think I should Return To Sender (RTS), or will it cause issues? I tried to intercept the package on USPS website and it says that "this package has already been intercepted". Which has FREAKED ME OUT.

Post in thread 'Wellness checks' https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/wellness-checks.230767/post-3342965

Im seeing this. What do you say to the cops ? Do I just refuse to open the door ? Will they say "COPS! WELLNESS CHECK! OPEN THE DOOR!" and alert my neighbours ?

If i dont open the door will they keep on trying to visit me ?
I dont have meto or B zo, so I cant do it anyways. I dont have the stuff
I highly doubt they would stop you entering the country. SN isn't illegal in the US so they can't arrest you. I don't think they can put you on a watch list for ordering something that isn't illegal. As I said there would have to be more, such as evidence you planned to commit a crime with it or repeated attempts to order it into the country.

As for the welfare check as they're checking on your welfare it wouldn't make sense for them to bang on your door and shout. Usually they would only do that if you were under arrest. It should be a normal conversation about your welfare. It's not an interrogation. You don't have to open the door as you're not under arrest and unless they have a warrant they can't enter your home without your permission. I would advise you speak to them to at least reassure them you're okay but don't answer anything you feel would incriminate you. Just keep it neutral, you're okay, you're not in danger, you're not a danger to anyone else, you ordered the SN for legitimate purposes.
 
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Wellness checks happen cause they busted the seller and got all the receipts of who the seller sold product to. And it's really not about making sure you're okay, it's just the police collecting evidence to see how many ppl actually ctb'd so they can charge the seller with a crime.

So if the police do come to your house just answer and tell them you have no clue what they are talking about. They'll probably ask to search your home, but you can refuse since they are not going to bother getting a warrant. But in case your parents answer and allow them to search, I suggest throwing the SN away so that they don't find anything.
 
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Wellness checks happen cause they busted the seller and got all the receipts of who the seller sold product to. And it's really not about making sure you're okay, it's just the police collecting evidence to see how many ppl actually ctb'd so they can charge the seller with a crime.

So if the police do come to your house just answer and tell them you have no clue what they are talking about. They'll probably ask to search your home, but you can refuse since they are not going to bother getting a warrant. But in case your parents answer and allow them to search, I suggest throwing the SN away so that they don't find anything.
They cant charge the owner, so I dont understand why they would do wellness checks. It might be mythology
 
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They cant charge the owner, so I dont understand why they would do wellness checks. It might be mythology
What do you mean they can't charge the owner? Like the owner as in you who bought the stuff? No they can't. But sometimes they gather evidence to use against the seller. I was on SaSu before I went to prison and while I was in prison I was contacted by the police about a site that was a very prominent seller of SN at the time. I hadn't even purchased from the site. I still don't full understand how they linked me to the site but they did and they asked me if I had any information and I told them I was pro-choice and would never help with any investigation. When I got out I found out that site had been shut down and the owner arrested.
 
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Sep 9, 2024
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I've never heard of wellness checks in the US. I've only ever heard of them happening in the UK.

And with all the batshit crazy things the US government is currently buried in, I highly doubt that resources are being spent on wellness checks.

Have you heard or read of them being a thing in the US?

As others said, it's not a controlled or illegal substance. I certainly understand not wanting to frighten your parents, but mental health in the US is abysmal, and it's certainly not a priority. I would be really surprised if the US conducted wellness checks.
A wellness check is just a check to see if you're okay. It can be scary and intimidating but as long as you can prove youre okay they can't do anything. Just show you're fully functioning i.e. you can look after yourself without help and that you are not a danger to yourself or others. You cannot be taken to a psych ward or arrested just for ordering SN. To be taken to a psych ward they have to be able to prove that you have mental health issues that cannot be managed in the community. As for the police they cannot arrest you unless they believe a crime has been committed. SN is a controlled substance but it is not illegal for you to order or own it. They may ask why you ordered it and they may refuse to deliver it but they cannot arrest you. They would have to have evidence you were planning to use the SN to commit a crime. The only thing I would say is just make sure your house doesn't have anything illegal or concerning in it. They may not decide to enter your home and if they do they cannot force their way in unless they have evidence of someone in danger or a potential crime is being committed. You don't have to answer any questions except for the ones relating to the SN such as why you ordered it. Remember it's not about whether or not you're telling the truth, it's about what they can prove. Hope you're okay.

SN is a controlled substance in the US? Like scheduled? I've never heard of that but then again I don't pay too much attention to it.
 
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persepexa

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Feb 7, 2025
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I've never heard of wellness checks in the US. I've only ever heard of them happening in the UK.

And with all the batshit crazy things the US government is currently buried in, I highly doubt that resources are being spent on wellness checks.

Have you heard or read of them being a thing in the US?

As others said, it's not a controlled or illegal substance. I certainly understand not wanting to frighten your parents, but mental health in the US is abysmal, and it's certainly not a priority. I would be really surprised if the US conducted wellness checks.


SN is a controlled substance in the US? Like scheduled? I've never heard of that but then again I don't pay too much attention to it.
Maybe controlled substance was the wrong phrase. I'm not an expert. It's not illegal to own but not everyone can just go to the store and buy it you need an actual reason. So they can't arrest you for ordering it but they can confiscate it.
 
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Maybe controlled substance was the wrong phrase. I'm not an expert. It's not illegal to own but not everyone can just go to the store and buy it you need an actual reason. So they can't arrest you for ordering it but they can confiscate it.

Ya, I honestly don't know, that's why I asked. What you said makes sense though.
 
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Feb 7, 2025
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Ya, I honestly don't know, that's why I asked. What you said makes sense though.
I mean let's be honest it is scary to talk to the police. Knowing your rights helps in that you know what to say and you know what they legally can and can't do but police try their luck all the time. They bank on us not knowing our rights or how much power they actually have so there's no guarantee. All we can do is be as prepared as possible and hope for the best.
 
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hell toupee

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I mean let's be honest it is scary to talk to the police. Knowing your rights helps in that you know what to say and you know what they legally can and can't do but police try their luck all the time. They bank on us not knowing our rights or how much power they actually have so there's no guarantee. All we can do is be as prepared as possible and hope for the best.

Absolutely agree. Well said.
 
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I've never heard of wellness checks in the US. I've only ever heard of them happening in the UK.

And with all the batshit crazy things the US government is currently buried in, I highly doubt that resources are being spent on wellness checks.

Have you heard or read of them being a thing in the US?

As others said, it's not a controlled or illegal substance. I certainly understand not wanting to frighten your parents, but mental health in the US is abysmal, and it's certainly not a priority. I would be really surprised if the US conducted wellness checks.


SN is a controlled substance in the US? Like scheduled? I've never heard of that but then again I don't pay too much attention to it.
On this forum - like the link I sent - it says they do wellness checks in the US. I am also highly dubious. People say 2 weeks after ordering SN, a wellness check occurred. Or a month after. Those posts were from people in the US. I wonder if they accidentally leaked their plan to a therapist, doctor, family, or friend
 
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On this forum - like the link I sent - it says they do wellness checks in the US. I am also highly dubious. People say 2 weeks after ordering SN, a wellness check occurred. Or a month after. Those posts were from people in the US. I wonder if they accidentally leaked their plan to a therapist, doctor, family, or friend
You never know with the police. Those checks could have happened so late because they were gathering evidence for something. When that whole thing with that Canadian site went down the police contacted me despite the fact that I had been in prison for months at that point so obviously couldn't have placed an order. There are lots of things that happen behind the scenes we just don't know.
 
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They cant charge the owner, so I dont understand why they would do wellness checks. It might be mythology
Look at what happened to Kenneth Law. Many people here bought SN from him even though he disguised it as a culinary ingredient. He was arrested and charged with multiple counts of first degree murder. They were only able to charge him cause they did "wellness" checks on his customers to see who actually ctb'd.
 

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