Reliability of SN without Antiemetics.

[doomerguy88]

So I am planning to use SN as my method and have already managed to secure some. I have done some research and am familiar with the the protocol however I don't have access to antiemetics and I'm afraid I will just vomit everything up and not succeed in CTB. I have searched the forums here and from what I can tell, you can still succeed even without the antiemetics but I'm not sure how likely that is.

I do plan to prepare a second glass of the mixture to increase the chances of it working in case I do end up vomiting but what happens if I vomit then as well. There is a report from another user who said they threw up immediately after ingesting the SN and still ended up in the hospital and had a cardiac arrest and needed CPR.

I've also read that the 25g recommended does is more that what would be considered a lethal dose and is designed in a way so that if you do end of vomiting there would still be enough SN to get absorbed by your body especially when taking the second glass but I don't know how true that actually is.

So my question then is how likely is it to succeed if I follow the protocol but end up throwing up and taking a second glass?

Thanks

 

[Kayla]

I took 7g of SN with no AE. I vomited, but I also suffered a cardiac arrest and shouldn't be here to even type this. 25g is way over the lethal dose of 2g, so if you're taking 25g and vomit, I think you'll be okay.

 

[idontknowwhatiam]

I took 7g of SN with no AE. I vomited, but I also suffered a cardiac arrest and shouldn't be here to even type this. 25g is way over the lethal dose of 2g, so if you're taking 25g and vomit, I think you'll be okay.

I've been curious.... Why take only 7G?

 

[doomerguy88]

I took 7g of SN with no AE. I vomited, but I also suffered a cardiac arrest and shouldn't be here to even type this. 25g is way over the lethal dose of 2g, so if you're taking 25g and vomit, I think you'll be okay.

Sorry you had to experience that. From what it sounds like then the SN starts to absorb quickly and it doesn't take much to be effective so that if you do end up vomiting you would still likely have enough get absorbed to work especially if you take the second glass.

Is that correct?

Also I am curious since a lot of the stuff I read about antiemetics talk about dopamine blockers working the best would that mean if you already going through stuff like depression which lowered your dopamine levels that it would have a similar effect as the antiemetic?

 

[iveseenfootage]

I took 7g of SN with no AE. I vomited, but I also suffered a cardiac arrest and shouldn't be here to even type this. 25g is way over the lethal dose of 2g, so if you're taking 25g and vomit, I think you'll be okay.

If you don't mind me asking, what was your experience exactly? How do you survive/what happened?

 

[Kayla]

I've been curious.... Why take only 7G?

Because honestly, I didn't have a lot of time with the police outside. I just grabbed my scoops, sn, and a drink and well the rest is history.

Sorry you had to experience that. From what it sounds like then the SN starts to absorb quickly and it doesn't take much to be effective so that if you do end up vomiting you would still likely have enough get absorbed to work especially if you take the second glass.

SN is just so lethal that, yeah, it doesn't take much to be effective. You wouldn't even need the second glass. If you're already taking 25g and vomit, I think you'll be okay because you'll absorb enough. I took 7g and vomited, and still technically died (cardiac arrest) just from 7g.

If you don't mind me asking, what was your experience exactly? How do you survive/what happened?

I'll put the thread of my medical records that will explain everything:

Comprehensive Medical records from SN attempt

Posting on behalf of @razor543. Here are medical notes which some may find helpful. Please engage in discussion respectfully and direct all questions toward them.

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[idontknowwhatiam]

Because honestly, I didn't have a lot of time with the police outside. I just grabbed my scoops, sn, and a drink and well the rest is history.

SN is just so lethal that, yeah, it doesn't take much to be effective. You wouldn't even need the second glass. If you're already taking 25g and vomit, I think you'll be okay because you'll absorb enough. I took 7g and vomited, and still technically died (cardiac arrest) just from 7g.

I'll put the thread of my medical records that will explain everything:

Comprehensive Medical records from SN attempt

Posting on behalf of @razor543. Here are medical notes which some may find helpful. Please engage in discussion respectfully and direct all questions toward them.

sanctioned-suicide.net

How did you know that it was 7G?

 

[Macedonian1987]

Because honestly, I didn't have a lot of time with the police outside. I just grabbed my scoops, sn, and a drink and well the rest is history.

SN is just so lethal that, yeah, it doesn't take much to be effective. You wouldn't even need the second glass. If you're already taking 25g and vomit, I think you'll be okay because you'll absorb enough. I took 7g and vomited, and still technically died (cardiac arrest) just from 7g.

I'll put the thread of my medical records that will explain everything:

Comprehensive Medical records from SN attempt

Posting on behalf of @razor543. Here are medical notes which some may find helpful. Please engage in discussion respectfully and direct all questions toward them.

sanctioned-suicide.net

I agree and I can confirm this. Joe Winko drank 21g of SN not 25g. He drank a lot of wine before he drank his SN (he most likely didn't take antiemetics) he vomited a lot, and I do mean a lot, and he still died. It just took him longer to lose his consciousness. I think it took him 30-35 minutes for him to finally go unconscious.

 

[Kayla]

How did you know that it was 7G?

That's what's in my medical notes

 

[doomerguy88]

Because honestly, I didn't have a lot of time with the police outside. I just grabbed my scoops, sn, and a drink and well the rest is history.

SN is just so lethal that, yeah, it doesn't take much to be effective. You wouldn't even need the second glass. If you're already taking 25g and vomit, I think you'll be okay because you'll absorb enough. I took 7g and vomited, and still technically died (cardiac arrest) just from 7g.

I'll put the thread of my medical records that will explain everything:

Comprehensive Medical records from SN attempt

Posting on behalf of @razor543. Here are medical notes which some may find helpful. Please engage in discussion respectfully and direct all questions toward them.

sanctioned-suicide.net

Thank you for the info. I guess

Because honestly, I didn't have a lot of time with the police outside. I just grabbed my scoops, sn, and a drink and well the rest is history.

SN is just so lethal that, yeah, it doesn't take much to be effective. You wouldn't even need the second glass. If you're already taking 25g and vomit, I think you'll be okay because you'll absorb enough. I took 7g and vomited, and still technically died (cardiac arrest) just from 7g.

I'll put the thread of my medical records that will explain everything:

Comprehensive Medical records from SN attempt

Posting on behalf of @razor543. Here are medical notes which some may find helpful. Please engage in discussion respectfully and direct all questions toward them.

sanctioned-suicide.net

Thank you for the info. I'm just wondering if it's different for certain people like depending on how much you throw up will determine whether it still works. I think you said you threw up right away, is that true?

Also, everything I read about SN makes it seem like there should be no lasting damage if it fails or you get found, but since from what I read it works by causing hypoxia. How would organs like the brain be unaffected long term when it's not getting sufficient oxygen for whatever time it takes for you receive aid?

Thanks .

 

[Kayla]

Thank you for the info. I guess

Thank you for the info. I'm just wondering if it's different for certain people like depending on how much you throw up will determine whether it still works. I think you said you threw up right away, is that true?

Also, everything I read about SN makes it seem like there should be no lasting damage if it fails or you get found, but since from what I read it works by causing hypoxia. How would organs like the brain be unaffected long term when it's not getting sufficient oxygen for whatever time it takes for you receive aid?

Thanks .

I have a possible hypoxic brain injury from the sn attempt.

 

[StryngerX]

The antiematics is more about making it a better experience for you, once you follow the protocol, stop eating and drinking before the SN, 25g will do the rest.

 

[silenteternity4]

I really hope 25g is all it takes without antiemetics

 

[LettinGooo]

If you're in the UK it's not too hard to order AntiEmetics. I was able to get some from an online pharmacy. Not MeTo but still one on the list.

 

[cecaris]

I have a possible hypoxic brain injury from the sn attempt.

Do you mind sharing how that has been impacting you so far?

I'm scared of failing my attempt and ending up worse off than before.