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Radiate_Ruby

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Oct 28, 2024
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So, I got 2 bottles of SN with me, one of them was already open, and the other was never opened before. But I've got questions about basically a lot of stuffs. First: why there are so many technical aspects involving the CO/CO2 method? Literally you can find tons of news searching and find out that in many places (specially in Brazil, for some reason) people died accidentally in the winter because they lit fire on a barbecue trying to warm themselves (in a closed room). There were no technical measurements involving all that process, families died without knowing that fire consumes oxygen. So why are people buying CO measurement equipment in here? Sometimes I think that people here get way too technical on their research.

Second of all, I was discouraged of using SN method because the anti-emetic they suggest (metoclopramide (known as Plasil in some places)) made me have panic attack (I was certain that I was dying and needed help as fast as possible) and even gave me nausea, which is ironic, as the medicine was made to treat nausea. If any of you ever had panic attacks, you know well that it is the worst felling you can experience in your life.

Plus, I found the SN method being uncomfortable and not peaceful as many claims it to be, here. If you read all the poisoning effects it gives you, you will know what I'm talking about. Vomiting is a trash feeling/experience and not pleasant at all.

And now, the Night-Night method; I bought a ratchet strap (I think it is the name), but every tutorial I've seen people recommending here seems to be for a different type of ratchet strap (endless strap?). I will post a photo here of what I've got and what I've seen recommended.

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I couldn't figure out how to use this. I'm not sure if it is possible to do the Night-Night method with this type of ratchet strap. If someone could tell me how I would use this, I'll be immensely grateful.

For me, the CO method is the best method out of all methods listed here; it's simple, and I don't know why people overexaggerate the techniques of this method. If people died by ACCIDENT, why would you use so many techniques to make it work?​
 
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So why are people buying CO measurement equipment in here? Sometimes I think that people here get way too technical on their research.
So......I'm one of those people who bought a CO analyzer. I bought it for one reason and one reason only - I want to be absolutely certain that the CO level I produce, when I do end up ctb-ing, is at a high enough level that the inhalation of the gas will knock me out within SECONDS, so that I don't have to linger in the gas experiencing "unpleasant" symptoms while conscious, until it finally knocks me out. I'm a coward like that and I don't like discomfort and pain, especially if I don't have to experience it. It would be different if I was already asleep, like those people you reference probably already were. To get knocked out quickly, you need a CO level of 10000 ppm, or more. Without an analyzer, there's no way to know what the level is. It's just a more assured way of doing what's been done for decades and decades, and hopefully it will help to provide a more peaceful ending.
 
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Radiate_Ruby

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So......I'm one of those people who bought a CO analyzer. I bought it for one reason and one reason only - I want to be absolutely certain that the CO level I produce, when I do end up ctb-ing, is at a high enough level that the inhalation of the gas will knock me out within SECONDS, so that I don't have to linger in the gas experiencing "unpleasant" symptoms while conscious, until it finally knocks me out. I'm a coward like that and I don't like discomfort and pain, especially if I don't have to experience it. It would be different if I was already asleep, like those people you reference probably already were. To get knocked out quickly, you need a CO level of 10000 ppm, or more. Without an analyzer, there's no way to know what the level is. It's just a more assured way of doing what's been done for decades and decades, and hopefully it will help to provide a more peaceful ending.

So you're telling me that you will measure the CO levels before you enter the room/car? Wouldn't it knock you out so fast that you wouldn't be able to close the door? Then, the CO would leave the room? Also, the CO effects from far as I know are dizziness and maybe headaches. Are there more symptoms that would make it harder for someone to just wait IN the room while the CO level raises? I thought that the most unpleasant thing was the heat that you will need to cope while in the room (if you're using fire/barbecue for the method) and the SI when the dizziness starts to act, but I think with some meds you can manage that
 
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So you're telling me that you will measure the CO levels before you enter the room/car?
Absitively!

Wouldn't it knock you out so fast that you wouldn't be able to close the door?
I don't think so. By that time (of the real ctb), I'll have practiced multiple times getting into the tent quickly and getting the entrance zipped back up, and holding my breath for those few seconds.

Also, the CO effects from far as I know are dizziness and maybe headaches. Are there more symptoms that would make it harder for someone to just wait IN the room while the CO level raises? I thought that the most unpleasant thing was the heat that you will need to cope while in the room (if you're using fire/barbecue for the method) and the SI when the dizziness starts to act, but I think with some meds you can manage that
Yeah, definitely a headache, probably nausea, maybe burning throat and nasal membranes, possibly burning eyes - all things I want to avoid. Remember what I said about not liking discomfort and pain? It will be hot, too. ALL THE MORE reason to not have to spend any more time conscious than necessary and having to endure that unpleasantness, also. I don't plan on taking any meds. Hopefully, my absolute need to ctb at that time will quell any SI I might have, or, at least, temper it.
 
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