Method Possible recipe to make N

[Versailles]

Warning​

The following information requires that someone with experience in the field of chemistry verify this information, the following here is a possible prescription to prepare N that is not yet confirmed, so use this information with caution.

Equipment

• Hotplate
• Stainless steel cup
• Small cooking pot
• Thermometer
• Clamp-stand
• Filter
• Stainless steel stir rod

Reagents

• 26.7 g of clean metallic sodium
• 400 g of anhydrous (dry) Ethanol
• 32.7g of Urea, molecular biology grade, CH4N2O, FW=60 g/mol
• Solution of 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester(Propanedioic acid)
• Water

PROCEDURE

1) A hotplate was rested on the base of a clampstand. A cooking pot containing 400 g of anhydrous (dry) ethanol is placed on the hotplate stirrer and 26.7g of clean metallic sodium is dissolved in it.

2) Into the stainless steel cup there is placed a Solution of 100 g of 1-methyl butyl-ethyl malonic ester(Propanedioic acid). The cup is then placed into the small cooking pot containing a mixture of the Ethanol and Sodium and secured with clamps to the clamp stand. The end of the thermometer is placed in the pot and positioned as close to the cup as possible.

3) It is warmed to a temperature of 170°C for 10 minutes to remove any residual moisture. Throughout the reaction the temperature of the mixture is kept at 170°C and stirring is done frequently.

4) 10.9 g of urea is added slowly, one scoop at a time and with good stirring. During this moisture (water) formed making the mixture damp. Over the course of 20 minutes the mixture gradually dries out and the amount of released gas lessens.

5) Another 10.9 g of urea is added and allowed to react for 35 minutes.

6) The last 10.9 g of urea is added and allowed to react for 30 minutes.

7) After adding the total amount of urea over 1h 25 min, the mixture is dry, contained yellow and off-yellow-to-white granules, and still damp with the water and alcohol. The product is then heated at a temperature of 280°C directly on the hotplate for 1h 20mins. During this process the mixture is stirred every 15 minutes and off-yellow-to-white granules became more prominent and as yellow ones lessened. The precipitated product is washed with cold water , filtered and heated again for about 40 minutes at a temperature of 127-130°C until all the water is removed and the white powder(Nembutal Sodium) is formed .

8) The Nembutal Sodium is allowed to cool and weighed. Yield is 23g. The product is 95-99% pure. You can also use a test kit to Check the purity

 

[wannabesetfree]

Oh man, I hope that someone tests this out soon and verifies it. If this works then this is what I'm going to use.

 

[sorryforthat]

It is complicated and I prefer to buy it if I can have access to it

 

[Versailles]

It is complicated and I prefer to buy it if I can have access to it

If this works, it could help those who are in countries with strict customs control

 

[peacefulhorizons]

This gets posted like once a month...

It sounds way easier than it actually is hence why no one here does it.

 

[MG_39]

If this works, it could help those who are in countries with strict customs control

My guess is that it's not super easy to get access to the precursors. At least not here in Europe.
And I think it's way more complicated than this. I mean this looks almost as simple as baking a cake.

 

[victoria91]

If only I was good at chemistry. Imagine making your own N it would be great . Shame it looks so difficult to make

 

[fox_wannabe]

This gets posted like once a month...

It sounds way easier than it actually is hence why no one here does it.

As somebody who performed chemical reaction on my own in order to obtain product I agree that this stuff usually are way more difficult than they seam. Chemicals often give strong odors and are hard to buy. Some of them are watched by police as drug precursors. Making something is hard enough, obtaining pure product is much harder.

 

[ChobaniFlipSmores]

Maybe my chemistry is bad, but metallic sodium? Isn't that pretty dangerous to work with, specifically explodes in contact with water?

 

[fox_wannabe]

Maybe my chemistry is bad, but metallic sodium? Isn't that pretty dangerous to work with, specifically explodes in contact with water?

Yeah It is very dangerous to work with. It is not something anybody could do safely and at home.

 

[suicidesheep31]

Indeed, this is dangerous if you mix them in the wrong order.
I found this website. It looks like what is written at the beginning of the thread.

Synthesis of Barbiturates

Apparently, you need an autoclave which cost a lot.

 

[stygal]

Wish I could go all Heisenberg and create some. Damn it - why did I choose biology and later physics over chemistry in uni??

 

[Samsara]

wtb suicidal chemist

 

[Euthanza]

What about these books?

Recipe For Nembutal, Step By Step Guide. By Philip Moran

How To Make Nembutal At Home, by Denise Nebgan

Once member of Exit International made a workshop for eldery but never heard them again. I wonder if those are the same recipe