I think it's a brilliant quote and sadly, it does often seem to be true. I've witnessed so many generous peoole be walked all over. What do you think?
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yeah definitely it true there are so many cases of employees losing their jobs for handing waste to the homeless thats the first thing that comes to mind when i see this saying
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Generally, a good deed is seen as a weakness by others, who may try to take advantage of it.
And the worst part is even when your genuinely kind and helpful, they take it as a sign of weakness.
I think there's a fear that the homeless may sue if they contract food poisoning from expired food but of course- there ought to be logic applied. Plenty of foods that are 'best before' are safe after the expiry date. It's the 'use by' that are more dicey.
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Yes agree with that you can do a lifetime of good things but make one mistake and only that thing matters but if your a totally bad person people are attracted to you and your totally forgiven what ever you do
I think it's true but only because of how our society is built. It shouldn't be true otherwise.
However it depends on why you were doing good deeds before. Were you doing it to get respect? Where you doing it to truly help?
I think ratatouille where Linguini releases Remi by the river is the best representation of no good deed goes unpunished but because Remi went through some though shit in the last couple of days, he comes back to Linguini.
It depends. If you are doing good deeds expecting something out of it, even a thank you. Then you shouldn't do them, even a sex worker, a homeless person, a homeless child, a trafficked child, a woman who is beaten by her husband on the street. ALL OF THESE if you'd intervene have multiple possibilities, you could get berated, called names, attacked even if you wanted to help, if you wanted to offer money. I've seen it before, yes, even in the woman being abused physically by the husband case, especially in that one, that doesn't mean all women, that doesn't mean you shouldn't try anymore.
But if you don't relent you'll find someone that wants the help and the people whom you tried might come around at some point.
Glass half empty vs Glass half full. That's what you get doing good deeds, you are never going to get net positive. If you are in it for some positive of any kind, you are in it for the wrong reason and you should stop. The only people who can get net positives out of anything are lucky ones or people who disregard human life/animal life.
By my experience, I should be a misogynistic man who hates the fact that he is actually transgender, that engages in violent consumption of people, that eats animals without any care, that hates every single mother or father for no reason.
But experience doesn't overwrite my nature, I still have some hope for individuals even with the shitty experiences that I had with people. And in the last years it has gotten better and I've seen more and more people fighting and speaking up, so I can see communities and potential friends where there weren't before.
It depends on who you are, good deeds aren't pointless in a vacuum but they often DO go unpunished in our society. If you can't deal with that fact, you should do the best deed you can do for yourself and focus on yourself instead. I don't find that of any value so I still try to help others in whatever way I can.
However it depends on why you were doing good deeds before. Were you doing it to get respect? Where you doing it to truly help?
I think ratatouille where Linguini releases Remi by the river is the best representation of no good deed goes unpunished but because Remi went through some though shit in the last couple of days, he comes back to Linguini.
It depends. If you are doing good deeds expecting something out of it, even a thank you. Then you shouldn't do them, even a sex worker, a homeless person, a homeless child, a trafficked child, a woman who is beaten by her husband on the street. ALL OF THESE if you'd intervene have multiple possibilities, you could get berated, called names, attacked even if you wanted to help, if you wanted to offer money. I've seen it before, yes, even in the woman being abused physically by the husband case, especially in that one, that doesn't mean all women, that doesn't mean you shouldn't try anymore.
But if you don't relent you'll find someone that wants the help and the people whom you tried might come around at some point.
Glass half empty vs Glass half full. That's what you get doing good deeds, you are never going to get net positive. If you are in it for some positive of any kind, you are in it for the wrong reason and you should stop. The only people who can get net positives out of anything are lucky ones or people who disregard human life/animal life.
By my experience, I should be a misogynistic man who hates the fact that he is actually transgender, that engages in violent consumption of people, that eats animals without any care, that hates every single mother or father for no reason.
But experience doesn't overwrite my nature, I still have some hope for individuals even with the shitty experiences that I had with people. And in the last years it has gotten better and I've seen more and more people fighting and speaking up, so I can see communities and potential friends where there weren't before.
It depends on who you are, good deeds aren't pointless in a vacuum but they often DO go unpunished in our society. If you can't deal with that fact, you should do the best deed you can do for yourself and focus on yourself instead. I don't find that of any value so I still try to help others in whatever way I can.
I think it is a line borne from anger and self pity. Plenty of good deeds afr appreciated or rewarded. People focus too much on the negative.
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kindness is only valuable if others perceive you as higher/same status as them. otherwise u getting treated like a pushover
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I think there is nuance... My mother used to say that it isn't help if she didn't ask for it. There were times, for instance, when she was sick in bed and someone would come over to visit and clean up the house or kitchen or something... and it would piss my mother off because she had a certain way she liked things and someone else mucking about didn't help her at all because she would have to go check everything to her satisfaction once she got well and make sure nothing was messed up.
I hold doors open for people all the time. Doesn't matter if it is a man or a woman, adult or child, pretty people or regular people. IF someone is relatively near coming behind me I make sure I hold the door. It's just courtesy not to let a door slam in someone's face or surprise them. But, every once in a while I do encounter one of those "I don't need you to hold a door for me" people... who I don't even know why they react that way, but some inevitably do... I just brush it off unless they are vocal about it and then I'll retort that next time I'll let the door hit them in the face then instead of holding it.
Every once in a while you hear of someone sued because while trying to rescue or save someone they injured them... and the person, maybe one who was choking at the time, will sue for the bruises or something. There was also a recent case making the rounds of a guy at work giving the Heimlich to a female co-worker who then reported him for harassment. HR threw that out pretty quickly because lots of witnesses were there who saw her choking and praised the guy for potentially saving her life... pretty sure that woman never apologized for complaining.
A long time ago... I was going to a pizza place to pick up an order I had placed. They were busy. I opened the door to go in and instantly there was a toddler running towards the door. Lots of cars outside and the parents didn't seem to notice their kid bolting for the door. I had seconds to evaluate the natural need to grab that kid before he could get outside and possibly hit by a car VS being afraid people would just see me grabbing a kid, the kid screaming, and facing a mob of people wondering why I grabbed that kid. Fortunately, the parents noticed before the kid got to me and yelled to get him back. I spoke to them and described as I did above, saying that I wouldn't have let their kid get outside and be in danger, but the thought had crossed my mind that I might be risking being misinterpreted if no one saw the kid bolting towards the door and just saw me grabbing him... but I told them I would have rather risked that than knowingly allow a kid to run out into the street.
So... it's all a mixed bag. Some people insist on helping when help isn't needed or wanted, and it's about them and not the person they "help" and in such cases I'm sympathetic to the person who didn't want the help... In other cases, I think people are a little high and mighty and stuck on themselves and are too quick to judge someone willing to offer a helping hand unsolicited.
I hold doors open for people all the time. Doesn't matter if it is a man or a woman, adult or child, pretty people or regular people. IF someone is relatively near coming behind me I make sure I hold the door. It's just courtesy not to let a door slam in someone's face or surprise them. But, every once in a while I do encounter one of those "I don't need you to hold a door for me" people... who I don't even know why they react that way, but some inevitably do... I just brush it off unless they are vocal about it and then I'll retort that next time I'll let the door hit them in the face then instead of holding it.
Every once in a while you hear of someone sued because while trying to rescue or save someone they injured them... and the person, maybe one who was choking at the time, will sue for the bruises or something. There was also a recent case making the rounds of a guy at work giving the Heimlich to a female co-worker who then reported him for harassment. HR threw that out pretty quickly because lots of witnesses were there who saw her choking and praised the guy for potentially saving her life... pretty sure that woman never apologized for complaining.
A long time ago... I was going to a pizza place to pick up an order I had placed. They were busy. I opened the door to go in and instantly there was a toddler running towards the door. Lots of cars outside and the parents didn't seem to notice their kid bolting for the door. I had seconds to evaluate the natural need to grab that kid before he could get outside and possibly hit by a car VS being afraid people would just see me grabbing a kid, the kid screaming, and facing a mob of people wondering why I grabbed that kid. Fortunately, the parents noticed before the kid got to me and yelled to get him back. I spoke to them and described as I did above, saying that I wouldn't have let their kid get outside and be in danger, but the thought had crossed my mind that I might be risking being misinterpreted if no one saw the kid bolting towards the door and just saw me grabbing him... but I told them I would have rather risked that than knowingly allow a kid to run out into the street.
So... it's all a mixed bag. Some people insist on helping when help isn't needed or wanted, and it's about them and not the person they "help" and in such cases I'm sympathetic to the person who didn't want the help... In other cases, I think people are a little high and mighty and stuck on themselves and are too quick to judge someone willing to offer a helping hand unsolicited.
