Nitazenes info (opiod OD)

[finishLana]

Hey guys,

Honoring the input of a legent of sasu Proper Overdoser, who shared valuable knowledge and insights on pharmacological side of catching the bus.

I guess I am hoping that someone possesses relevant information on the topic of nitazenes. Nitazenes are known for being highly potent synthetic opioids similar to infamous fentanyl. Which supposedly are very deadly, in some reports cops managed to overdose by only touching the substance. While experienced users manage to intake upto 50mg of it while around 2ml (of fentanyl) is deadly. (Nitazenes are available to order from china and even clearnet)

If there was an information about reliable route of administration of nitazenes that would lead to a peaceful knockout and later death. I am particularly interested in protonitazepyne (which isn't water soluble), and here comes the question of how to consume it for a fatal overdose.

Nitazenes can be dissolved in ethanol and dmso, which are not great for IV (and tbh I believe self IV is very complicated for a noobie), and dmso is suitable for topical application which could help transfer the zene to the bloodstream (yet it's very theoretical and unstudied). I imagine doing an Intramuscular injection possible as I would assume that it provides high bioavailability, allows the substance to stay in the body (no vomit failure etc) yet again, there isn't a way I could find to dissolve it into an injectable substance. Potentiated with benzos taken orally to speed up a cns depression, while the opioid doing the main job. There's also a boofing roa but it also seems unreliable to me but I might be wrong, yet again how to dissolve pure powder of zene into solution?

I would be grateful for any knowledge on the topic, how protopyne could be consumed or administered for ctb.
Anyone on reddit would immediately comment "Avoid taking any zene unless you are a veteran opioid user - or it will kill you like a fly", however rc_opiod community there isn't really pro choice. With a proper knowledge and a method of taking zene - that would be a peaceful way to fall asleep.

Please feel free to share your experience with opioids and especially zenes

 

[finishLana]

Bumping for discussion, come onnn

 

[LostSoul1965]

I would be interested in hearing about this too.

 

[DanielDanDean]

Nitrazenes are forbidden in France :(
But I'm interested

 

[Willy Wonka]

Probably not relevant information but I´m always really puzzled as to why routes of administration are even discussed when a substance is that deadly. Antiemetics are for sure a good thing to take since you will vomit if you don´t have a tolerance for opioids.
Idk, I´m confused, maybe this thread will be useful:

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[decisive.housewife]

Here in Europe it cannot be found, US only, and information about it are pretty scarse, only a few studies, but it is said that nitrazene is more potent than carfentanyl, after that fentanyl a bit weaker, than heroin etc. It is used to cut some less potent drugs because it is way cheaper.

 

[finishLana]

Here in Europe it cannot be found, US only, and information about it are pretty scarse, only a few studies, but it is said that nitrazene is more potent than carfentanyl, after that fentanyl a bit weaker, than heroin etc. It is used to cut some less potent drugs because it is way cheaper.

there are clearnet eu sources

 

[legoshi]

I'm interested in this. Im in USA. You mentioned china and clearnet (idk what that is) so we can order this easily online?

 

[Endofpain]

I am also intrigued. This sounds like a real alternative to N at this point in time. I am thinking about dissolving 1g in DMSO and either injecting that directly intramuscular or rubbing it on my skin.
It sounds quite risky to get the pure compound though, as it has no real uses outside of poisoning someone...

 

[finishLana]

I am also intrigued. This sounds like a real alternative to N at this point in time. I am thinking about dissolving 1g in DMSO and either injecting that directly intramuscular or rubbing it on my skin.
It sounds quite risky to get the pure compound though, as it has no real uses outside of poisoning someone...

I was thinking about doing the same, however injecting dmso might hurt and could stop you from injecting it IM, and even though bioavailability supposed to be high it's somewhat unpredictable.

Topical also in theory should work, but absorption time and other info is purely theoretical.

Even if oral bioavailability is 10-50% taking 200mg of a nitazene in a 2 layers of acid resistant capsules (especially with mixed benzo in there) supposed to be fatal. Taking ae, a sleeping pill and benzo before enteric capsules would be ideal.

 

[Endofpain]

Injecting DMSO should be rather painless from what have read. (Not like something like the ethanol - solution...)
Your approach seems to be the better and less painful option. However, there is much more time for SI to play an effect.
When injecting it, you should be gone in seconds. Also I don't think that the route of administration matters to much when you taken in consideration that you only need a few mg with no tolerance and the pure compound.
Did you source yours already?

 

[needthebus]

It seems like it's so strong, but the risk in ordering it is that because it's so strong there are more likely to be problems having it arrive without inquiries.

 

[Endofpain]

It seems like it's so strong, but the risk in ordering it is that because it's so strong there are more likely to be problems having it arrive without inquiries.

I wouldnt worry about that. People order drugs on DNM's all the time. The problem is that all sellers are located in china. For that reason it is unlikely for it to arrive without problems.

 

[finishLana]

Injecting DMSO should be rather painless from what have read. (Not like something like the ethanol - solution...)
Your approach seems to be the better and less painful option. However, there is much more time for SI to play an effect.
When injecting it, you should be gone in seconds. Also I don't think that the route of administration matters to much when you taken in consideration that you only need a few mg with no tolerance and the pure compound.
Did you source yours already?

Opinions differ, some say it should be painless and some say dmso burns even applied topically and eats through the wood. Also, it takes about 15 mins for an intramuscular injection to start taking effect. IV is almost immediate, true

 

[youpi]

Bump.

Lots of research into this and it seems that the only clearnet vendor left is cutting his stuff.

There used to be a lot of potent, accessible zenes on the clearweb that got banned over the past few years.
I feel so bad for missing the bus with this one. Since I discovered I'm obsessed with it. Anyone else ?
There's a few vendors left, the chemicals they are selling are not great for euphoria or drug users, but could be for catching the bus.
Shit needs to be tested beforehand tho.

 

[Endofpain]

Bump.

Lots of research into this and it seems that the only clearnet vendor left is cutting his stuff.

There used to be a lot of potent, accessible zenes on the clearweb that got banned over the past few years.
I feel so bad for missing the bus with this one. Since I discovered I'm obsessed with it. Anyone else ?
There's a few vendors left, the chemicals they are selling are not great for euphoria or drug users, but could be for catching the bus.
Shit needs to be tested beforehand tho.

How can you determine that Nitazenes are cut?

 

[finishLana]

How can you determine that Nitazenes are cut?

Sending to a lab for testing

 

[youpi]

Yes, there are a few testing facilities.

That being said I got my information from someone who actually tried the method, found unconscious later, and got his blood drown.

 

[be or not to be]

Yes, there are a few testing facilities.

That being said I got my information from someone who actually tried the method, found unconscious later, and got his blood drown.

Could you explain better what happened?

 

[finishLana]

Yes, there are a few testing facilities.

That being said I got my information from someone who actually tried the method, found unconscious later, and got his blood drown.

Could you please share what was used and what happened?

 

[youpi]

All I know is he took Protonitazepyne as well as NDI and benzos.
Was found a while later and brought to hospital.

Blood samples showed a lot of impurities. Of course it could be from the zenes, from the benzos, or even from things that could have happened during the 24 hours.

That's all I know sadly.

 

[be or not to be]

Todo lo que sé es que tomó Protonitazepin además de NDI y benzodiacepinas.
Fue encontrado un rato después y llevado al hospital.

Las muestras de sangre mostraron muchas impurezas. Por supuesto, podría deberse a los zenes, a las benzodiazepinas o incluso a cosas que pudieron haber sucedido durante las 24 horas.

Eso es todo lo que sé, tristemente.

Were these substances taken for CTB or recreational purposes? Do you know what quantities were taken or if he had a tolerance to opioids?