Maybe it's jumping after all... some questions

[FadeToBlack1109]

So, I used to be dead set on doing partial, mostly because firearms aren't an option in my country and there's no good jumping spot in my area.

However, I'm gonna be traveling to a really beautiful nordic country soon with lots of cliffs that are up to 700 meters tall. Although the one I'd probably choose just by online research is 140 meters. However, most of these cliffs are overlooking water. I have never seriously researched ctb by jumping, so I have a few questions...

-Am I correct in the assumption that a 140m fall into water is almost guaranteed death?

-How much pain am I gonna feel from the impact? Not talking about the psychological dread while falling, but the actual Impact.

-Which option should I choose between, say, a 50m fall onto rocks and a 100m fall into water?

-When jumping into water, should I try and land on my head or just flat, like a belly flop? Is there even a way to control my body while falling?

-I'm a tall and heavy male, 192cm and 130kg. Does this mean I'll reach higher speeds when falling, because I'm so heavy, or lower speeds because there's more air resistance when falling flat?

Thanks a lot for any input! Like I said, I did several months of research into partial hanging, but jumping is completely new territory for me and I only have a few days to learn more

 

[TooManyChances]

I know this is not what you want to hear, but I wouldn't choose jumping unless it was on hard concrete and a tall ass building (though acceleration has a limit).

That being said, if you were to jump onto water, even if you survive, you will probabmy drown. What we don't know is if you will be conscious or not. And I don't know if the height is enough either.

I hope you find success in your travels, even if you don't ctb.

 

[FadeToBlack1109]

I know this is not what you want to hear, but I wouldn't choose jumping unless it was on hard concrete and a tall ass building (though acceleration has a limit).

That being said, if you were to jump onto water, even if you survive, you will probabmy drown. What we don't know is if you will be conscious or not. And I don't know if the height is enough either.

I hope you find success in your travels, even if you don't ctb.

Thanks for the reply. Yeah I've been having the same thoughts. The ground is gonna be gravel and small rocks, possibly some sand...

 

[Ch4in3dcr0w]

The way u fall doesnt matter u would most likely fall on your front/back and it would be lethal just make sure u dont fall on your feet. If u can manage to land on head it would be beneficial but its not as important with the fall height (into water) u are talking about.
I would still choose water u would be over 24 m over the generally considered fatal height. The more u weight and higher u are would increse the fatality IF u dont have alot of body weight so the fat doesnt act as an cushion.
Consider finding something a hard surface to jump like concrete its way easier and the margin of error is smaller u dont want to paralyzed for the rest of your life. About the pain it should be instant with hard surface on water it might depend. If i were to jump i would try to find the highest thing i could find with a hard surface underneath u dont want to take chances with jumping.
Much love

 

[FadeToBlack1109]

The way u fall doesnt matter u would most likely fall on your front/back and it would be lethal just make sure u dont fall on your feet. If u can manage to land on head it would be beneficial but its not as important with the fall height (into water) u are talking about.
I would still choose water u would be over 24 m over the generally considered fatal height. The more u weight and higher u are would increse the fatality IF u dont have alot of body weight so the fat doesnt act as an cushion.
Consider finding something a hard surface to jump like concrete its way easier and the margin of error is smaller u dont want to paralyzed for the rest of your life. About the pain it should be instant with hard surface on water it might depend. If i were to jump i would try to find the highest thing i could find with a hard surface underneath u dont want to take chances with jumping.
Much love

Thanks :) The surface wouldn't be hard concrete, but mostly gravel, small rocks and sand. A typical black beach. So I guess there's some risk there indeed...

I didn't even consider the cushion effect of my body fat. Yes, I am very overweight. Not morbidly obese, but definitely overweight. Although I can hardly imagine it makes too much of a difference, right?

Regarding the "as high as possible" thing; yeah, that's pretty obvious, but keep in mind these are natural cliffs, they're not perfectly 90° down. Thus the higher the cliff, the more likely it gets to hit the cliff itself and break the fall. So I'd definitely prefer a 100m cliff that's somewhat tilted inwards over a 700m cliff that has a lot of bumps and "ledges" on the way down.

That's actually what I'm most afraid of.

 

[Ch4in3dcr0w]

I didn't even consider the cushion effect of my body fat. Yes, I am very overweight. Not morbidly obese, but definitely overweight. Although I can hardly imagine it makes too much of a difference, right?

It wouldnt matter much. Falls from over 27-30m are considered lethal (hard surface)

Regarding the "as high as possible" thing; yeah, that's pretty obvious, but keep in mind these are natural cliffs, they're not perfectly 90° down. Thus the higher the cliff, the more likely it gets to hit the cliff itself and break the fall. So I'd definitely prefer a 100m cliff that's somewhat tilted inwards over a 700m cliff that has a lot of bumps and "ledges" on the way down.

I meant more a jump from a building thats why i said concrete so much. The 100m should be good enough but i personally wouldnt trust water. Even if u hitted one the cliff itself on the fault u would die with a huge amount of pain (matters where u are hit).
In a huge TLDR of both of my posts the heights on both of your spots are high enough to it be generally considered lethal u just need to choose what u feel most comfortable with. Take your time with the decision.
Much love