Help Ketamine Therapy - give it a try?

[coffeebeany]

So, a few close friends have kind of started an intervention and pleaded with me to contact my doctors at a special clinic (I have been there before around 2022 and received ECT treatment and got a VNS implant). My friends approached me and said my current severe depressed state was obvious. They don't know I ordered SN and had actually made up my mind to ctb. However they urged me to initiate a conversation with my doctor and out of love I did.

So my doctor suggested to come back to the clinic for an in-patient stay and give treatment another go. He suggested Ketamine and combine it with ECT and new medication - he said we would look and come up with a plan. He also said he d would leave the decision to me and has great respect for me. We ll talk again via phone on Friday and I ll give him my decision.

Has anyone experience with ketamine and can share their journey?

Would appreciate it much.

 

[painmustend]

i tried ketamine but it didn´t really help me. for some reason it made my suicidal thoughts louder (not in a agressvie way, more like "oh yeah i could just stop breathing or jump infront of this train right now, that would be nice"). the high lasted around an hour and that was definitly enjoyable. so i would recommend it. a lot of people see benefits from it and if it doesn´t work for you, at least you had a nice hour once or twice a week!

 

[finishLana]

If you can afford it, of course give it a try, SN will wait

 

[ItsyBitsyWeetard]

Ive gotten ketamine infusions before the trips are very nice i have to admit but i dont really think they helped that much for me it was more so placebo and i kinda felt ok for a day maybe but idk ive heard it helps plenty of people the person who was beside me and was getting infusions said he couldnt even sleep before getting them so i would say give it a try

 

[divinemistress36]

It didnt help me and hated how I felt after but like others said it was nice to leave my body for an hour and it was spiritual experience has made me fear death less. It can help some people its worth trying!

 

[maniac116]

I would certainly give it a try!!!!!!!

 

[darknessishere]

Definitely try I know a lot of people had success and some Drs do it to maintain!

 

[MatrixPrisoner]

From what I understand, it's only supposed to be a quick circuit breaker for those with severe ideation. I can see that. The trippy experience could serve as a distraction who a good minute. At least that's what is was for me.

But long term, I can't see it being a viable solution. And the price tag is likely to add depression to your life.

 

[Romanticize]

I tried ketamine - numerous times - on my own (moderate to high doses), and it didn't help me. Psychedelics like shrooms or acid also reportedly help people lift depression, but they didn't cure it for me, I think even worsened symptoms.

However, from reports I've read, for many people ketamine DOES provide instant relief, and remission of suicidal ideation. It's far better than SSRIs or other big pharma enslavement. You don't need to take meds daily, just take ket once every few weeks, have a good trip on it, and that's it.

I estimate your chances at 50/50, but hey, it's worth a shot. You're not losing anything if you're at stage of seriously implementing the ultimate decision into "life".
I am a bit surprised you are even asking this. If you contemplate, you can't get much worse, can you? Also, ket is something you do, and it should provide instant relief, it's not like being locked in psych ward for 5 years or undergoing some long therapy.

You do it and after 1 day you will already know if it's working, or not. Good luck!

 

[ItsyBitsyWeetard]

yeah the ego death is amazing honestly. Once in a life time type of experience

It didnt help me and hated how I felt after but like others said it was nice to leave my body for an hour and it was spiritual experience has made me fear death less. It can help some people its worth trying!

 

[coffeebeany]

i tried ketamine but it didn´t really help me. for some reason it made my suicidal thoughts louder (not in a agressvie way, more like "oh yeah i could just stop breathing or jump infront of this train right now, that would be nice"). the high lasted around an hour and that was definitly enjoyable. so i would recommend it. a lot of people see benefits from it and if it doesn´t work for you, at least you had a nice hour once or twice a week!

Thank you for sharing. Appreciate it. I m just very torn cause I don't suspect it to heal the root causes. But it might stabilize me for a short amount of time and I ll lose the determination to go through with my ctb plan. I already got sn and meds but it broke my heart to leave this earth and my friends without showing them that I tried everything possible. On the other hand, I am so sick of being the depressed, crazy girl. C ptsd, anxiety disorder and depression have shaped my personality and life in a way that makes me a an empty shell. I have no interests, no hobbies, no passion, drive or creativity. I see my friends (sure the too have problems) but they are all so different. I am grateful that they have accepted me but this is not who I want be for me or for them. Sorry for the vent - I ve spend Christmas with my friend and her parents and can't help but feel like an intruder and parasite. Will leave for our home tomorrow but it's been tough right now. Again, thank you for sharing.

If you can afford it, of course give it a try, SN will wait

Yeah, I know ctb will always be an option. But I m very anxious right now and about that decision to go the treatment route again.

Ive gotten ketamine infusions before the trips are very nice i have to admit but i dont really think they helped that much for me it was more so placebo and i kinda felt ok for a day maybe but idk ive heard it helps plenty of people the person who was beside me and was getting infusions said he couldnt even sleep before getting them so i would say give it a try

Thank you for sharing your experience. It's much appreciated.

I would certainly give it a try!!!!!!!

Thank you for always being supportive and commenting

From what I understand, it's only supposed to be a quick circuit breaker for those with severe ideation. I can see that. The trippy experience could serve as a distraction who a good minute. At least that's what is was for me.

But long term, I can't see it being a viable solution. And the price tag is likely to add depression to your life.

Yes, that's what I fear - a mere distraction. But solves nothing of course.
I won't have to worry about costs though. I m German so everything is covered by my health insurance.

I tried ketamine - numerous times - on my own (moderate to high doses), and it didn't help me. Psychedelics like shrooms or acid also reportedly help people lift depression, but they didn't cure it for me, I think even worsened symptoms.

However, from reports I've read, for many people ketamine DOES provide instant relief, and remission of suicidal ideation. It's far better than SSRIs or other big pharma enslavement. You don't need to take meds daily, just take ket once every few weeks, have a good trip on it, and that's it.

I estimate your chances at 50/50, but hey, it's worth a shot. You're not losing anything if you're at stage of seriously implementing the ultimate decision into "life".
I am a bit surprised you are even asking this. If you contemplate, you can't get much worse, can you? Also, ket is something you do, and it should provide instant relief, it's not like being locked in psych ward for 5 years or undergoing some long therapy.

You do it and after 1 day you will already know if it's working, or not. Good luck!

Thank you for your input. I ve been in therapy, on/off meds etc. since 22 (i m 33 now). I ve always waited for "the cure" (bit naive but I ve tried almost everything). So I am very exhausted and had friends not been approaching me I wouldn't even have considered treatment again.
But like you said - maybe it is worth the try. I just hate to get better again and then worse after time passes. I've been doing this for so long.

 

[painmustend]

Thank you for sharing. Appreciate it. I m just very torn cause I don't suspect it to heal the root causes. But it might stabilize me for a short amount of time and I ll lose the determination to go through with my ctb plan. I already got sn and meds but it broke my heart to leave this earth and my friends without showing them that I tried everything possible. On the other hand, I am so sick of being the depressed, crazy girl. C ptsd, anxiety disorder and depression have shaped my personality and life in a way that makes me a an empty shell. I have no interests, no hobbies, no passion, drive or creativity. I see my friends (sure the too have problems) but they are all so different. I am grateful that they have accepted me but this is not who I want be for me or for them. Sorry for the vent - I ve spend Christmas with my friend and her parents and can't help but feel like an intruder and parasite. Will leave for our home tomorrow but it's been tough right now. Again, thank you for sharing.

i don't really have anything to add, i just wanted to let you know that you're not crazy and alone. i could've wrote this paragraph 1:1. i have bpd, chronic depression and an eating disorder and my life is shaped by these disorders. i'm 23 and (i read that you're german and i don't know the english word lol) erwerbsminderungsrente. i can't relate to the people in my life or generally people my age. it is so hard to live this life and i'm really tired.
i don't want to write my whole life story down but just know you're in my thoughts and i understand and see you. whatever decision you will make is valid and okay. i hope you have an okay or even good new year's eve!

 

[MBG]

Has anyone experience with ketamine and can share their journey?

Only read the OP. Just want to make sure you realize how biased the replies will be: anyone who had great experience using ketamine is unlikely to be hanging out at SaSu.

Be sure to look into magic mushrooms too. Many articles and YouTubes about how safe they are and how effective against depression. "Start low and go slow."

"Try everything before you throw everything away…"