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happynot

happynot

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Maybe it's a silly question but I think everyone here discusses peaceful methods but it's like if you do it on your own how peaceful can it be? The euthanasia experts can do that put you into a state where you don't feel and death comes but when you try on your own even with SN, how can you be sure it will succeed and it will be with minimum pain? I am searching quite a lot on these issues and I think it's too hard maybe I am wrong
 
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Agon321

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If someone talks about peaceful CTB, they usually mean less drastic methods.
"Peaceful CTB" is a bit of a subjective opinion.
My method is SN, but I don't consider SN to be a completely peaceful method.
It's just relatively peaceful compared to the alternatives I have access to.

The closest thing to euthanasia is the inert gas method.
If everything is done right, the person quickly loses consciousness.

Each method has its pros and cons.
For example, inert gas provides a quick and pleasant death, but the configuration is a bit complicated to create.
Everyone has to make their own decision.

Each method also involves risk.
For example, if someone uses the inert gas method and is saved, then that person may become a vegetable.

The probability of success is never 100%.

Everyone has to take into account the calculus of probability.
CTB using Paracetamol has only a few percent chance of success.
A shotgun blast to the head has, of course, an incomparably greater chance of success.

In summary.
Nothing can completely replace euthanasia, but if someone is motivated and has the means, they can make their CTB relatively peaceful.
I would most like to use inert gas, but I don't have the energy and the means to configure the set.
Or a firearm, because I could CTB anywhere and anytime I want.

SN is okay, but it has its drawbacks.
For some people, these drawbacks may rule out this method.
For me, these drawbacks are bearable.
 
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happynot

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If someone talks about peaceful CTB, they usually mean less drastic methods.
"Peaceful CTB" is a bit of a subjective opinion.
My method is SN, but I don't consider SN to be a completely peaceful method.
It's just relatively peaceful compared to the alternatives I have access to.

The closest thing to euthanasia is the inert gas method.
If everything is done right, the person quickly loses consciousness.

Each method has its pros and cons.
For example, inert gas provides a quick and pleasant death, but the configuration is a bit complicated to create.
Everyone has to make their own decision.

Each method also involves risk.
For example, if someone uses the inert gas method and is saved, then that person may become a vegetable.

The probability of success is never 100%.

Everyone has to take into account the calculus of probability.
CTB using Paracetamol has only a few percent chance of success.
A shotgun blast to the head has, of course, an incomparably greater chance of success.

In summary.
Nothing can completely replace euthanasia, but if someone is motivated and has the means, they can make their CTB relatively peaceful.
I would most like to use inert gas, but I don't have the energy and the means to configure the set.
Or a firearm, because I could CTB anywhere and anytime I want.

SN is okay, but it has its drawbacks.
For some people, these drawbacks may rule out this method.
For me, these drawbacks are bearable.
What do you think are the obstacles on SN?
 
Evelyn Lane

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Maybe it's a silly question but I think everyone here discusses peaceful methods but it's like if you do it on your own how peaceful can it be? The euthanasia experts can do that put you into a state where you don't feel and death comes but when you try on your own even with SN, how can you be sure it will succeed and it will be with minimum pain? I am searching quite a lot on these issues and I think it's too hard maybe I am wrong
No method is peaceful, and the truly peaceful methods are not available to most people (and no, I don't mean euthanasia). I'm going with hanging and I am ok with the amount of pain it will cause me. Once you understand that death is never a painless experience you will feel more open to taking your own life.

But anyway, wishing you luck with your method.
 
happynot

happynot

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Jun 22, 2024
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Thanks hanging I think I am too silly and don't know how to do it and that I will fall down if I do it at home
 
Agon321

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Aug 21, 2023
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What do you think are the obstacles on SN?
Availability of SN is worse than some time ago.

Additionally, symptoms such as: tachycardia, vomiting, headache, abdominal pain, burning in the throat, etc.
Of course, these symptoms do not always occur and are probably usually not intense.
For me, this is not a problem, because even if these symptoms occur in my case, it is not a very big inconvenience for me

The downside of SN is also the waiting.
You have to fast and not eat or drink anything.
During this time, your thoughts will be one big chaos.

For example, in the case of a firearm, you can simply shoot yourself in the head when you are ready.
You can also eat/drink something good before the shot.
In the case of SN, this is impossible.
For some people, this can be a big problem.

CTB is the art of compromise.
I do not think that there is currently a golden grail.
Each method requires perseverance, motivation and sometimes cunning.
 
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Totally agree I was thinking of SN I have it already but I am afraid I will fail the protocols, why not simply drink it😁
 

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