Jumping - critique my plan

[JmPittsburgh]

Hello all,

I'm in that zone where thinking about my plan brings me comfort. Whatever happens, however bad things get, I know I have an out. I don't intend to do this at the moment, but I think about it all the time. Would love to have any reactions, especially potential problems.

So I live in a big city, and I've scouted a 12-story parking deck that's open to the street. No access restrictions, you just go up in the elevator and "walk out to your car." I know there are security cameras everywhere, so I might need to get a "ticket" and pay for it in order to avoid suspicion. No big deal. I also know, via a friend who has first-hand experience (she almost jumped from a parking deck about a block away!), that they really watch those cameras, so if I go up there and hesitate, they're going to call the cops and have me 5150'd/302'd - involuntarily committed. So it will require resolve to just go and do it. That's why I like this plan - it's something I would have to be seriously committed to and just GO.

Location: like I said, 12 stories, so roughly 120 - 140 feet (30+ meters). Surface below: concrete/asphalt alley behind the building. I know that if I went there very early in the morning there wouldn't be anyone around, and I'm especially sure the alley would be empty, so no risk of landing on anyone. The top level of the garage has low barriers around the perimeter; you can sit on them. SI: yeah, that's a consideration but for me it's a plus. This wouldn't be an impulsive decision. I have a fear of heights, which makes things tougher, but I figure, if I'm doing so badly that this would be the next step, that won't matter. I assume that from that height I will essentially end up as a pile of hamburger meat. I plan to put my ID and a note for the cops in two ziplock bags inside my clothes, telling them who to call. I plan to leave my phone behind on the ledge. I'm checking my "emergency contacts" so that they go to the right person. (I also plan to leave a note at home, with the phone numbers for my job, my AA sponsor, and a couple of other people - saying that just *someone* should call them - as in, it's OK to delegate that stuff to a friend who isn't as close and will be willing to help out with this.)

Anyway, that's the plan. Please pick it apart. Yes, I know that whoever has to deal with my remains will not exactly be having the best day of their career, but as long as I'm sure no innocent bystanders are hit, I'm OK with that. Cops and EMTs see this shit all the time. My will is in place and I'll leave it with the note. Unfortunately, I had hoped to leave my body to a medical school for dissection as a cadaver, but obviously that won't work in this situation! So my note will state that I should be cremated and that the crematorium can deal with the remains.

It may never have to happen, but if it does, I want it to be done. Amy I missing anything? I'm in the US, if that matters, and yes, I do have a gun permit and could afford one, but decided against it, since having one might lend to an impulsive decision rather than a considered one. Same for jumping in front of a train - I did come up with a foolproof plan for that, but traumatizing an innocent train conductor seems wrong (I almost wrote, "I couldn't live with that", ha ha.)

So, roast me!

Jimmy

 

[reem]

Anything more than 7 stories will, without a doubt, get the job done.

 

[wham311]

Hello all,

I'm in that zone where thinking about my plan brings me comfort. Whatever happens, however bad things get, I know I have an out. I don't intend to do this at the moment, but I think about it all the time. Would love to have any reactions, especially potential problems.

So I live in a big city, and I've scouted a 12-story parking deck that's open to the street. No access restrictions, you just go up in the elevator and "walk out to your car." I know there are security cameras everywhere, so I might need to get a "ticket" and pay for it in order to avoid suspicion. No big deal. I also know, via a friend who has first-hand experience (she almost jumped from a parking deck about a block away!), that they really watch those cameras, so if I go up there and hesitate, they're going to call the cops and have me 5150'd/302'd - involuntarily committed. So it will require resolve to just go and do it. That's why I like this plan - it's something I would have to be seriously committed to and just GO.

Location: like I said, 12 stories, so roughly 120 - 140 feet (30+ meters). Surface below: concrete/asphalt alley behind the building. I know that if I went there very early in the morning there wouldn't be anyone around, and I'm especially sure the alley would be empty, so no risk of landing on anyone. The top level of the garage has low barriers around the perimeter; you can sit on them. SI: yeah, that's a consideration but for me it's a plus. This wouldn't be an impulsive decision. I have a fear of heights, which makes things tougher, but I figure, if I'm doing so badly that this would be the next step, that won't matter. I assume that from that height I will essentially end up as a pile of hamburger meat. I plan to put my ID and a note for the cops in two ziplock bags inside my clothes, telling them who to call. I plan to leave my phone behind on the ledge. I'm checking my "emergency contacts" so that they go to the right person. (I also plan to leave a note at home, with the phone numbers for my job, my AA sponsor, and a couple of other people - saying that just *someone* should call them - as in, it's OK to delegate that stuff to a friend who isn't as close and will be willing to help out with this.)

Anyway, that's the plan. Please pick it apart. Yes, I know that whoever has to deal with my remains will not exactly be having the best day of their career, but as long as I'm sure no innocent bystanders are hit, I'm OK with that. Cops and EMTs see this shit all the time. My will is in place and I'll leave it with the note. Unfortunately, I had hoped to leave my body to a medical school for dissection as a cadaver, but obviously that won't work in this situation! So my note will state that I should be cremated and that the crematorium can deal with the remains.

It may never have to happen, but if it does, I want it to be done. Amy I missing anything? I'm in the US, if that matters, and yes, I do have a gun permit and could afford one, but decided against it, since having one might lend to an impulsive decision rather than a considered one. Same for jumping in front of a train - I did come up with a foolproof plan for that, but traumatizing an innocent train conductor seems wrong (I almost wrote, "I couldn't live with that", ha ha.)

So, roast me!

Jimmy

Looks like a good plan the only thing to worry about is si. Alcohol? Drugs? Much easier that way

 

[JmPittsburgh]

Looks like a good plan the only thing to worry about is si. Alcohol? Drugs? Much easier that way

Well, I'm a recovering alcoholic (note that my AA sponsor is one person I would want to be notified!) so I have plenty of experience with booze. I'm sober now, and this is a decision I would have to make while sober. But I also know that 3-4 stiff drinks would be enough to give me a decent case of the "fuck-it's". On the other hand, I've learned that in the moment, some booze would alleviate my pain, so actually might make me re-consider! It's a vexing question but a good one.

 

[charlie_cat_51925]

Anything more than 7 stories will, without a doubt, get the job done.

I heard of someone surviving a 9 story fall, just barely. He is in very bad shape and his life is worse now than it was before.

 

[rembleeds]

Sounds good. As others have said, SI. Other than that yeah you'll ctb from that high. I'd add that you should try to jump away from the building and try (somehow?) to land on your head as a 1000% guarantee

 

[AreWeWinning]

Jumping is not my method of choice, but Geo Stone writes in his book: "Is jumping a reliable way to kill yourself? The short answer is that it's about 95 to 98 percent lethal if you fall more than 150 feet (ten to twelve stories) over land". If that sounds good to you, then your plan seems solid given that surface and height.

I would say the critical factor is that you only get to try this once, and you have to be relatively decisive and quick. If security sees you and gets suspicious, then you can't really go back, or if you do, you'll have to be even quicker.

Your messages and your will – it seems like you thought that part over well.

But I also know that 3-4 stiff drinks would be enough to give me a decent case of the "fuck-it's". On the other hand, I've learned that in the moment, some booze would alleviate my pain, so actually might make me re-consider! It's a vexing question but a good one.

Regarding alcohol, I wouldn't drink. It can make things easier, but it can also backfire. It introduces uncertainty. There is also research that in the majority of cases people do it sober (video opens at the relevant time). Even heavy drinkers often stop drinking in their last days. This is just me, but I also want to make it a point to do it sober. If they test for blood alcohol levels, I want people to know that it was a calculated, sober decision.

 

[Ariel1]

Do you think it would hurt? Would you feel your head/body crack against the pavement, or would it be so fast that you wouldn't feel much?

 

[rs929]

Anything more than 7 stories will, without a doubt, get the job done.

This is just plain wrong.

The chances of surviving a 12 story jump are not 0%.

Maybe 1, 2, 5%. They are low, sure, and it's really hard to estimate. But there are reports of people surviving higher than that.

OP must be aware that, while there is a high likelihood that he succeeds, the risk of surviving in a very bad shape DOES exist.

It's a gamble. You win and you succeed and end your suffering forever, You lose and you become paraplegic or a vegetal.

 

[reem]

Do you think it would hurt? Would you feel your head/body crack against the pavement, or would it be so fast that you wouldn't feel much?

It depends on how you fall. If you are able to hit head first, it's lights out pretty quickly. But, if you land other ways, it would be pretty painful until you (hopefully) take your last breath. Ultimately, you won't know. If it hurts, it will be the last time it hurts. That's what I tell myself anyway.