is sn more painful without an antiemetic?

[eggsausagerice]

sn blablablabla yes yes i know
i could buy an antiemetic, i just don't really feel like it because it'll be from out of the US and i hate customs. i know a lot of people here don't have meto, so i want to hear the general take. my protocol will probably just include benadryl and ibuprofen. i know there's still an element of pain when it comes to sn, but i also know that you still vomit after taking meto before drinking sn. i don't know if it's worth buying it when i'm already pretty broke.

 

[Suizident]

If you throw up the SN again, it can't work, so without Meto, there's no point in taking SN at all.

Vomiting after taking SN seems to occur in only a few people. The question is, when does vomiting occur, and how quickly does the SN pass through the stomach or get absorbed by it?

According to AI, SN is absorbed by the body in the small intestine, not in the stomach. According to AI, saltwater on an empty stomach leaves the stomach after 20 to 40 minutes, and SN water does as well.

Considering that, according to the protocol, death occurs after about 40 minutes, SN seems to work very quickly. That is, if the AI data is correct.

It would be interesting if those with more biological knowledge could weigh in here.

 

[MatiSendiri]

sn blablablabla yes yes i know
i could buy an antiemetic, i just don't really feel like it because it'll be from out of the US and i hate customs. i know a lot of people here don't have meto, so i want to hear the general take. my protocol will probably just include benadryl and ibuprofen. i know there's still an element of pain when it comes to sn, but i also know that you still vomit after taking meto before drinking sn. i don't know if it's worth buying it when i'm already pretty broke.

The function of antiemetics is to try stopping your vomiting. Is the chance of vomiting is still there? Yeah because everyone have different reaction to the same meds.

So please, make your ctb as comfortable as possible and take the antiemetics.

If you throw up the SN again, it can't work, so without Meto, there's no point in taking SN at all.

Vomiting after taking SN seems to occur in only a few people. The question is, when does vomiting occur, and how quickly does the SN pass through the stomach or get absorbed by it?

According to AI, SN is absorbed by the body in the small intestine, not in the stomach. According to AI, saltwater on an empty stomach leaves the stomach after 20 to 40 minutes, and SN water does as well.

Considering that, according to the protocol, death occurs after about 40 minutes, SN seems to work very quickly. That is, if the AI data is correct.

It would be interesting if those with more biological knowledge could weigh in here.

SN is highly absorpable when taken orally (based on this paper). So the effects would be quick and hopefully painless (except the salty taste of the SN itself)

 

[Forever Sleep]

There are other side effects to taking SN that an antiemetic don't tackle- like tachycardia, headache, laboured breathing. I think the pain killers and benzo's in the more luxury protocol are to try and better manage those symptoms.

I'm not sure that antiemetics really reduce pain as such. Maybe more the chances of vomiting. But then- people do still vomit so- presumably they still feel sick before they do.

I was prescribed meto when I had gallstone problems. I wouldn't say it was a wonder drug- as I remember it anyhow. I don't remember feeling all together better when I took it.

 

[Suizident]

The function of antiemetics is to try stopping your vomiting. Is the chance of vomiting is still there? Yeah because everyone have different reaction to the same meds.

So please, make your ctb as comfortable as possible and take the antiemetics.

SN is highly absorpable when taken orally (based on this paper). So the effects would be quick and hopefully painless (except the salty taste of the SN itself)

Thanks for the paper. Unfortunately, I don't have full-text access, so I can only read the abstract. So the bioavailability of the SN is 98%.

Of course, it would be interesting to have a reliable source (more credible than AI) on how quickly the SN is absorbed by the body.

Does anyone have full access or know of another source?

Because the 20 to 40 minutes that AI estimates for the bioavailability of something don't match the reality that the SN usually leads to death very quickly.

There are other side effects to taking SN that an antiemetic don't tackle- like tachycardia, headache, laboured breathing. I think the pain killers and benzo's in the more luxury protocol are to try and better manage those symptoms.

I'm not sure that antiemetics really reduce pain as such. Maybe more the chances of vomiting. But then- people do still vomit so- presumably they still feel sick before they do.

I was prescribed meto when I had gallstone problems. I wouldn't say it was a wonder drug- as I remember it anyhow. I don't remember feeling all together better when I took it.

Well, yes, dying always has "side effects."

Maybe they aren't side effects at all, but rather dying itself (in this specific case, dying via oral intake of SN).

What surprises me is that with Meto, the generally recommended maximum dose in the How-tos is adhered to (10 mg per dose, max 30 mg per day).

Since Meto doesn't seem to have any significant side effects, I wonder why it isn't overdosed to suppress vomiting completely? Or does an overdose not lead to better suppression of vomiting?

According to AI, some sources suggest that up to 20 mg of Meto can be administered.

Does anyone know of a systematic review of cases where people vomited despite taking Meto? Did everyone survive, or did some die anyway, and if so, how many?