Help Importance of meto for SN

[aaakiee]

As I found DMC, SN is now one of my options. I was wondering if I could get away without meto, as I don't have it. Used to have a bottle from an impulsive OD on acetaminophen, which led to 30 counts of vomiting in the ER (which was written off as a virus).

I searched around already, and saw people mention that SN drinks have been successful without an AE, but I just wanna to ask:
1. What's the percentage? How much more likely are you to vomit/fail without an AE?
2. Should I attempt to induce vomiting (ex: overdosing on acetaminophen again) to obtain meto? I don't understand online pharma enough to fake a meto prescription from there..

 

[iusedtobehappy]

As I found DMC, SN is now one of my options. I was wondering if I could get away without meto, as I don't have it. Used to have a bottle from an impulsive OD on acetaminophen, which led to 30 counts of vomiting in the ER (which was written off as a virus).

I searched around already, and saw people mention that SN drinks have been successful without an AE, but I just wanna to ask:
1. What's the percentage? How much more likely are you to vomit/fail without an AE?
2. Should I attempt to induce vomiting (ex: overdosing on acetaminophen again) to obtain meto? I don't understand online pharma enough to fake a meto prescription from there..

Can you PM DMC info? TIA

 

[ThatStateOfMind]

As I found DMC, SN is now one of my options. I was wondering if I could get away without meto, as I don't have it. Used to have a bottle from an impulsive OD on acetaminophen, which led to 30 counts of vomiting in the ER (which was written off as a virus).

I searched around already, and saw people mention that SN drinks have been successful without an AE, but I just wanna to ask:
1. What's the percentage? How much more likely are you to vomit/fail without an AE?
2. Should I attempt to induce vomiting (ex: overdosing on acetaminophen again) to obtain meto? I don't understand online pharma enough to fake a meto prescription from there..

1. It varies from person to person. Quite a few people vomit even with AEs, they just let you hold it in for longer and therefore you absorb more of it.
2. This one, I have no clue about. I just know it's possible without meto, just a higher chance of failing

 

[athiestjoe]

I was wondering if I could get away without meto, as I don't have it.

Sure, there are examples. If you review the Vizzy post there are examples of success/failures and the protocols so it might be worth reading through those too so you can evaluate for yourself:

SN Successful and Unsuccessful cases 2023 update

I have combined and added all the brief summary of all the attempts, assumed successful and unsuccessful, of SN suicide. These are all posts that the member has made to document the method, news articles, and scientific articles. If I have missed any I apologise and it would be great if you can...

sanctioned-suicide.net

It is not mandatory but highly, highly recommended as even with meto people vomit plus helps absorption. But yes there are successes without it. I do not think there is anyone who can give you a solid % of chances or rate of probability more but it sounds pretty risky to not use it. For me personally, I would want to mitigate any possible risks out of risk of it having a higher chance to fail.

I hope you find everything you are looking for and find peace & serenity.

 

[LunarLight]

I'd add that D2 dopamine antagonist antiemetics speed up gastric emptying as well, which makes your body absorb SN faster.

 

[howunfortunateforme]

What if AE s make you commit and cause movement issues

 

[Amarajoy]

Sure, there are examples. If you review the Vizzy post there are examples of success/failures and the protocols so it might be worth reading through those too so you can evaluate for yourself:

SN Successful and Unsuccessful cases 2023 update

I have combined and added all the brief summary of all the attempts, assumed successful and unsuccessful, of SN suicide. These are all posts that the member has made to document the method, news articles, and scientific articles. If I have missed any I apologise and it would be great if you can...

sanctioned-suicide.net

It is not mandatory but highly, highly recommended as even with meto people vomit plus helps absorption. But yes there are successes without it. I do not think there is anyone who can give you a solid % of chances or rate of probability more but it sounds pretty risky to not use it. For me personally, I would want to mitigate any possible risks out of risk of it having a higher chance to fail.

I hope you find everything you are looking for and find peace & serenity.

It looks like quite a few people assumed successful didn't use meto.

 

[athiestjoe]

It looks like quite a few people assumed successful didn't use meto.

Indeed, that's why I mentioned: ( )

But yes there are successes without it

That is why I linked that thread so OP could evaluate. For me, I am choosing to pick the things that will reduce my risk of failure but per my first reply yes absolutely people have succeeded without. But there is a very good reason is part of the protocol. Not here to convince anyone either way just providing some things to review for educational purposes to make an informed decision!

With whatever you choose, I wish you all the best & hope you find peace & serenity.

 

[Amarajoy]

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Indeed, that's why I mentioned: ( )


That is why I linked that thread so OP could evaluate. For me, I am choosing to pick the things that will reduce my risk of failure but per my first reply yes absolutely people have succeeded without. But there is a very good reason is part of the protocol. Not here to convince anyone either way just providing some things to review for educational purposes to make an informed decision!

With whatever you choose, I wish you all the best & hope you find peace & serenity.

Please know, my comment wasn't meant argumentatively. Just a meeting of minds. I definitely ask questions, etc because this is a pretty important procedure.

Is there a good reason we have it in the protocol? I know they say it increases gastro emptying but, it is also a very risky med that may be difficult to obtain. Do we have substantial evidence or is it just what we've always done? Considering there are several successful cases without I don't know where the claim is coming from. And I am going to point these things out because I am probably not going to be able to use these things so of course I want some assurance I can still be successful and not just harm myself. Unless we truly know meto improves odds should we be claiming it does?

 

[howunfortunateforme]

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Pl

Please know, my comment wasn't meant argumentatively. Just a meeting of minds. I definitely ask questions, etc because this is a pretty important procedure.

Is there a good reason we have it in the protocol? I know they say it increases gastro emptying but, it is also a very risky med that may be difficult to obtain. Do we have substantial evidence or is it just what we've always done? Considering there are several successful cases without I don't know where the claim is coming from. And I am going to point these things out because I am probably not going to be able to use these things so of course I want some assurance I can still be successful and not just harm myself. Unless we truly know meto improves odds should we be claiming it does?

Did you find ae?

 

[I’mSoTired]

I'm not planning on using any, but that's because I don't have access to any at this time. From what I could tell, it's just there to make it more peaceful. It doesn't seem to be necessary as long as you have enough SN for a second drink, and even that's just insurance.

 

[MountainMan99]

Sure, there are examples. If you review the Vizzy post there are examples of success/failures and the protocols so it might be worth reading through those too so you can evaluate for yourself:

SN Successful and Unsuccessful cases 2023 update

I have combined and added all the brief summary of all the attempts, assumed successful and unsuccessful, of SN suicide. These are all posts that the member has made to document the method, news articles, and scientific articles. If I have missed any I apologise and it would be great if you can...

sanctioned-suicide.net

It is not mandatory but highly, highly recommended as even with meto people vomit plus helps absorption. But yes there are successes without it. I do not think there is anyone who can give you a solid % of chances or rate of probability more but it sounds pretty risky to not use it. For me personally, I would want to mitigate any possible risks out of risk of it having a higher chance to fail.

I hope you find everything you are looking for and find peace & serenity.

That's cute, but how do i get meto if the customs in my country don't allow it to come through when i order it from those online indian pharmacies? How do i get it if my doctors refuse to prescribe it to me and prescribe instead different meds for nausea, which do not work for SN method..

I think everyone would love to mitigate any possible risks of failing by using meto as well.

But for those who have tried to get meto, like me and couldn't get it, are we supposed to go rob a pharmacy?

 

[rameshkrishna1976]

Any Canadian options for AE. I am reading how the customs confiscate all medications.
Other then OTC or sniffing Isopropyl I dont seem to have any options. Tried family doctor and is not giving me anything.

Anyone have extra to share or any direction to source AE within the border? I am disabled, cant travel so has to be online/email. Thanks

 

[skatergirl]

I'm not planning on using any, but that's because I don't have access to any at this time. From what I could tell, it's just there to make it more peaceful. It doesn't seem to be necessary as long as you have enough SN for a second drink, and even that's just insurance.

Will just sn on its own work?

 

[vanillamilkshakes]

Here is a recent example of a (presumed) successful CTB by raw dogging SN https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/taking-sn.185082/
I presume is real, due to the number of messages she's sent on the website, and the amount she's communicated with the community (plus the fact she hasn't updated since she said she took the SN)