NSFW i hate females because of the torture i have suffered ( i hate myself )

[lunar02102009]

Its not like one of those physical abuse or anything but women have mentally tortured me so much in my life that i hate every single new female i meet for no reason or mainly because none of them , and i swear none of them are not dry each one istg each one doesnt reply until you send like 5 or 6 messages , and im a good looking dude i cant even lie do women not like it when someone is desperate for them? Obviously not in a insane way but jus to talk w them?

I have never had someone who was as desperate for me as i was for them Lol no matter how much i changed myself for them like i hate myself if someone could actually kill me i would be grateful jus kill me and do whatever the fuck you want to do with my body afterwards hell im a healthy dude , sell my organs and enjoy the rest of your life or sm shit but please jus kill me i cant do this anymore i really cant

 

[Higurashi415]

Most females are regular people, some females are assholes just like some some males are assholes, maybe you detest the way being an asshole manifests itself when the asshole happens to be a female. I can kind of empathize with that, male assholes are easier to deal with for me.

I don't think you need assholes in your life, stay away from them.

 

[22yearsbroken]

The body has nothing to with it.... being able to honestly connect with someone who ever that maybe . Its about dropping your guard and being vunrable with another person .. love is and always be mystery but we always stuve to solve it and we never will but we try ...giving up on love is a sad why to tbink.. no matter what reason you are on this site for it should never stop you from finding a smile.. but blaming the other sex for you not .. reaching out or giving it a go with a girl or boy you like is just daft ..

 

[lunar02102009]

The body has nothing to with it.... being able to honestly connect with someone who ever that maybe . Its about dropping your guard and being vunrable with another person .. love is and always be mystery but we always stuve to solve it and we never will but we try ...giving up on love is a sad why to tbink.. no matter what reason you are on this site for it should never stop you from finding a smile.. but blaming the other sex for you not .. reaching out or giving it a go with a girl or boy you like is just daft ..

I do not know if its just me but every female i have a connection with jus doesnt want me back even after acknowledging the fact that they have a connection w me like seriously this has happened so many times that i blame th other gender i wish i could jus kill myself and be born in a body that women actually want.

 

[Higurashi415]

I do not know if its just me but every female i have a connection with jus doesnt want me back even after acknowledging the fact that they have a connection w me like seriously this has happened so many times that i blame th other gender i wish i could jus kill myself and be born in a body that women actually want.

it's unlikely for someone to want a random person to be their companion. I think you're idealizing girls and putting them on a pedestal

 

[lunar02102009]

it's unlikely for someone to want a random person to be their companion. I think you're idealizing girls and putting them on a pedestal

Im not i swear , im not talking abt random people im talking abt ppl who i had been talking for months with a rly deep connection but they jus leave me always

 

[Higurashi415]

Im not i swear , im not talking abt random people im talking abt ppl who i had been talking for months with a rly deep connection but they jus leave me always

I'm sorry, I was vague, I'll try to be more precise this time.

I meant that there is so much variance among human beings that even if you've known each other for months it's unlikely that a romantic relationship would ever work. Also if you're above 20 years old and don't have a job you're gonna struggle no matter what

 

[lunar02102009]

I'm sorry, I was vague, I'll try to be more precise this time.

I meant that there is so much variance among human beings that even if you've known each other for months it's unlikely that a romantic relationship would ever work. Also if you're above 20 years old and don't have a job you're gonna struggle no matter what

what i mean is w women who have ADMITTED to liking me back

 

[Higurashi415]

what i mean is w women who have ADMITTED to liking me back

Maybe they said that because they felt pressured into saying that, maybe they're just dumb, doesn't matter. It clearly wasn't a fit, reroll the dice.
What's hard to understand for guys is that most girls don't care about most guys in the sexual and/or romantic sense, so oddly enough it's easier for guys to catch feelings. They just wanna talk, share feelings, and stuff like that. The same thing they'd do with a female friend in other words-they just want a friend.
I think the misunderstanding comes from the fact that sharing feelings in an intimate way is normal behavior in a female-female relationship but it's very unlikely for that to happen in a male-male relationship, so males mix the signals.

 

[22yearsbroken]

I disagree it about not talking on line.. or that kinda crap .. ive worked crappy jobs in my youth and still had meaningfull relationships... my daughter is 22 and yes its complex but.. im 46 now and can say ive had 3 real relationships the 1 im in now.. another that could if been the one but life happend and the one id drop everything for the mother of my kid. ..not having a job has sod all to do with you can have a job and earn loads of cash and still be a cunt..

An honest man with a true heart dies richer ....than a man gilded with gold ..

 

[Higurashi415]

I disagree it about not talking on line.. or that kinda crap .. ive worked crappy jobs in my youth and still had meaningfull relationships... my daughter is 22 and yes its complex but.. im 46 now and can say ive had 3 real relationships the 1 im in now.. another that could if been the one but life happend and the one id drop everything for the mother of my kid. ..not having a job has sod all to do with you can have a job and earn loads of cash and still be a cunt..

An honest man with a true heart dies richer ....than a man gilded with gold ..

Being above 25 and not having a job is a red flag for most people, that's all I'm saying. I don't necessarily agree with it, and I didn't mean that you're either filthy rich or you'll die alone. Have a job, be decent, wash yourself, that's all it takes. After that it's luck in one way or another

 

[Carrot]

Can you treat the women you meet like a potential friend instead of a potential partner, especially if you don't know much about them yet? And if you are using dating apps, I'd suggest not to in this case.

You'd probably be better off by finding some hobby that you like, maybe you will meet friends there, since that would mean you share the hobby. You'd need to do it because you enjoy the hobby though.

I'm making an assumption here, but it seems like you fall in "love" way too easily and that kind of desperation is not attractive. Behaving in "I'll do anything for you just be with me" way is not a good starting point.

 

[22yearsbroken]

Stay of tik tok and bull shit websites... be you thats all it takes is to be yourself.. you bringing up one thing ... money yes it would help you get a partner .. but if she or he only is in your life cos you have cash.. thats not a relationship... your just a cash machine .. and that is not being happy
Yes a stable job and being able to support ..if you have a child is important but whats wrong with making sure the bills are paid and thats alll..

You wanna earn massive till.. work 15 hours a day in tge stock market .. youll never see you kid or partner just to own a posh car...

Chefs and bar managers as i once worked as for many many years. I worked 20 hour days slept at work had and many 1 nights yes .... but only 3 loves of my life ..its not about money or jobs that are high profile .. an honeat worker is an true worker.

 

[Dot]

Am nt sre hw u communc8 whn talkng t/ womn bt wll jst sy tht refrrng t/ womn as femles cmes acrss as d-humanisng whthr u wn2 or nt

U r lookng fr a womn whch = undrstndble -- jst sty awy frm plces whre womn r referrd 2 as 'femles' bcse thse r usully incel spces & thy wll nt hlp u in n.e postve wy 2wrds findng sme1

 

[Higurashi415]

Am nt sre hw u communc8 whn talkng t/ womn bt wll jst sy tht refrrng t/ womn as femles cmes acrss as d-humanisng whthr u wn2 or nt

U r lookng fr a womn whch = undrstndble -- jst sty awy frm plces whre womn r referrd 2 as 'femles' bcse thse r usully incel spces & thy wll nt hlp u in n.e postve wy 2wrds findng sme1

Girl usually refers to a female child or adolescent, woman would be an adult female human, and female just encompasses everything. It's also the correct term medically and biologically. I don't see what's wrong with it.

 

[Dot]

Girl usually refers to a female child or adolescent, woman would be an adult female human, and female just encompasses everything. It's also the correct term medically and biologically. I don't see what's wrong with it.

Mstly bcse refrrng t/ womn as femles hs bcme th/ norm in incel cultre s/ usng tht wrd t/ decsrbe thm eithr signfis tht thy r prt of tht cultre or ppl usng tht trm in tht contxt wll b associ8d wth incl cultre whch wld pt womn off autmatclly

Femles = usd mre oftn whn refrrng t/ animls rathr thn ppl s/ slf ws givng OP a heds up

 

[endlessmelancholy]

At some we have to be our own person not fitting into other's expectation. More than love of others we need self love. Get a hobby or do something you love. Obsessing isn't good for them or you.

 

[Higurashi415]

Mstly bcse refrrng t/ womn as femles hs bcme th/ norm in incel cultre s/ usng tht wrd t/ decsrbe thm eithr signfis tht thy r prt of tht cultre or ppl usng tht trm in tht contxt wll b associ8d wth incl cultre whch wld pt womn off autmatclly

Femles = usd mre oftn whn refrrng t/ animls rathr thn ppl s/ slf ws givng OP a heds up

I'm not denying that incels use "female" almost as a derogatory term, but it's also the correct one and the most general one, so I wouldn't say that this term is indicative of being part of that culture.

I mean, they use that term, but so do biology textbooks, anatomy textbooks and scientific papers.

 

[rainwillneverstop]

I'm not denying that incels use "female" almost as a derogatory term, but it's also the correct one and the most general one, so I wouldn't say that this term is indicative of being part of that culture.

I mean, they use that term, but so do biology textbooks, anatomy textbooks and scientific papers.

That's the point tho, it's often used in clinical settings. That's what makes it slightly dehumanizing to use in every day talk.

 

[JesiBel]

Grow up, nobody likes people who are so intense. Don't beg for love or attention. It's not worth insisting when the other person is clearly not interested.
No one owes you anything, focus on yourself. It's worse when someone approaches you because they feel sorry for you. Don't expect anything from anyone either. We live in an overly individualistic and superficial society. It's best not to delude ourselves.

 

[karakoltriste]

Yes, we are all terrible and you are an angel

 

[Higurashi415]

That's the point tho, it's often used in clinical settings. That's what makes it slightly dehumanizing to use in every day talk.

It's used in clinical settings because it's the correct term. Any scientific paper on this subject will use the term "female", I know incels use it but it's STILL the correct term. Women, girl and female are not synonyms.

 

[Dot]

It's used in clinical settings because it's the correct term. Any scientific paper on this subject will use the term "female", I know incels use it but it's STILL the correct term. Women, girl and female are not synonyms.

Socl contxt = diffrnt

Dffrnt wrds hve dffrnt meanngs in diffrnt socl contxts - whn talkng abt autonms humn b-ings thn soclly ppl r genrlly referrd 2 as mn & womn bcse thse wrds r humanisd

In scientfc artcles mle & femle humns r 0 dffrnt t/ mle & femle rts & mle & femle pgs

Slf honstly cnnt undrstnd Y acceptng ths = dffclt

 

[Higurashi415]

Socl contxt = diffrnt

Dffrnt wrds hve dffrnt meanngs in diffrnt socl contxts - whn talkng abt autonms humn b-ings thn soclly ppl r genrlly referrd 2 as mn & womn bcse thse wrds r humanisd

In scientfc artcles mle & femle humns r 0 dffrnt t/ mle & femle rts & mle & femle pgs

Slf honstly cnnt undrstnd Y acceptng ths = dffclt

Most of my conversation IRL are scientific, so I'm used to using the correct term to refer to things. I like to be precise, and I think it's important to be precise. And I don't even agree that different words have different meanings in different social contexts, or, rather, I agree to an extent.
A word is a word, it has a meaning that you can look up in the dictionary and decide for yourself. "Female" is NOT a derogatory term. The "F" word commonly used to insult homosexual males IS derogatory. There can be situations in which the "F" word is just part of a joke and people won't get offended if you use it in that case, but it's still a derogatory term. In the same exact way the term "female" CAN be used to trigger people, but it's NOT a derogatory term.

 

[wham311]

Most of my conversation IRL are scientific, so I'm used to using the correct term to refer to things. I like to be precise, and I think it's important to be precise. And I don't even agree that different words have different meanings in different social contexts, or, rather, I agree to an extent.
A word is a word, it has a meaning that you can look up in the dictionary and decide for yourself. "Female" is NOT a derogatory term. The "F" word commonly used to insult homosexual males IS derogatory. There can be situations in which the "F" word is just part of a joke and people won't get offended if you use it in that case, but it's still a derogatory term. In the same exact way the term "female" CAN be used to trigger people, but it's NOT a derogatory term.

Yhis woman is giving you important feedback, it is off-putting. Consider that as you want to do better with women.

 

[Higurashi415]

Yhis woman is giving you important feedback, it is off-putting. Consider that as you want to do better with women.

You should re-read what I wrote. I was contrasting the OP, and you don't know nothing about me so spare me your ignorant judgement.

 

[lonergirl_26]

I'm sure you don't want a woman's perspective but I'm going to give it to you anyway
First thing is don't call us "females"
No matter how 'good looking' you are an off putting personality will put any woman off.
Realistically different women are going to want different things.
You can't go into a conversation with expectations and then get pissed when it's a different outcome than the one you wanted

 

[Dot]

Most of my conversation IRL are scientific, so I'm used to using the correct term to refer to things. I like to be precise, and I think it's important to be precise. And I don't even agree that different words have different meanings in different social contexts, or, rather, I agree to an extent.
A word is a word, it has a meaning that you can look up in the dictionary and decide for yourself. "Female" is NOT a derogatory term. The "F" word commonly used to insult homosexual males IS derogatory. There can be situations in which the "F" word is just part of a joke and people won't get offended if you use it in that case, but it's still a derogatory term. In the same exact way the term "female" CAN be used to trigger people, but it's NOT a derogatory term.

OP thred = nt scientfc

Refrrng t/ womn as 'femles' in tht contxt = an incl dg-whstle & dg-whstles r nt allowd on th/ ste whch am sre tht mds wll clarfy

 

[Namelesa]

Most of my conversation IRL are scientific, so I'm used to using the correct term to refer to things. I like to be precise, and I think it's important to be precise. And I don't even agree that different words have different meanings in different social contexts, or, rather, I agree to an extent.
A word is a word, it has a meaning that you can look up in the dictionary and decide for yourself. "Female" is NOT a derogatory term. The "F" word commonly used to insult homosexual males IS derogatory. There can be situations in which the "F" word is just part of a joke and people won't get offended if you use it in that case, but it's still a derogatory term. In the same exact way the term "female" CAN be used to trigger people, but it's NOT a derogatory term.

You not understanding that incels are the people that mainly use the term females to refer to other women in everyday contexts such as this. Incels objectify and view women as lesser so if you use it in this context and it can make others misunderstand you and think you are objectifying them. The context of this conversation isn't scientific as we not discussing biology and about the people themselves. Its better to use the term women as its more humanizing.

Please everyone now go back to original topic of the thread. Further posts not about it will be deleted

 

[Forever Sleep]

It sounds more like you hate your need and dependence on women. Especially when that isn't reciprocated. I can relate to that. I've been through several bouts of limerence (obsessive crushes) on guys. It was awful to be so emotionally hopeful and vulnerable towards someone and something that was never going to happen. I tended to go for guys way out of my league.

But sure, I think all of us can pick up a distrust of a certain people, if we have had bad experiences with them. I was pretty much taught not to entirely trust men. I think it's kind of safer not to entirely trust anyone if I'm honest. It's less disappointing that way, if they do turn out unreliable. Not exactly a happy way to live though.