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I live in a small town and the tallest building I have access to is a parking garage that's about 5 stories. How high up must I be to eliminate the chance of survival? Is there scientific literature on this anywhere?
 
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Please don't even think about attempting from such a low height. Your concerns are totally justified.
 
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In my point of view jumping unless it is from the ISS (International Space Sation) is a no go. I am older and I only mention this as I have had enough time to see and experience folks who have had been in like car crashes and paralyzed from the neck down and talk about living hell, that is one of the modes of it.

Please do NOT even think about the jumping aspect.

Lots of caring thoughts and well wishes to you,

Walter
 
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You need to jump from a height of about 40 meters plus for it to be a sure thing. A fifth floor has a very low chance of success and will likely end up with broken bones or worse. Here's a little reading on the matter:

 
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You need to jump from a height of about 40 meters plus for it to be a sure thing. A fifth floor has a very low chance of success and will likely end up with broken bones or worse. Here's a little reading on the matter:

Thank you for the link!
In my point of view jumping unless it is from the ISS (International Space Sation) is a no go. I am older and I only mention this as I have had enough time to see and experience folks who have had been in like car crashes and paralyzed from the neck down and talk about living hell, that is one of the modes of it.

Please do NOT even think about the jumping aspect.

Lots of caring thoughts and well wishes to you,

Walter
Good to know. I'm assuming car crashes fall under the same philosophy?
 
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Thank you for the link!

Good to know. I'm assuming car crashes fall under the same philosophy?
Auto accidents are, essentially, also unpredictable by their very nature. Particularly in view of the ever increasing safety standards which are being adopted by manufacturers in terms of Construction & Use.
In general terms I'd suggest that the greater the complexity of any ctb method contemplated the greater the likelihood of something going amiss.
Gravity (as in jumping) and oxygen deprivation (as in strangling/choking/drowning) are much more dependable.
 
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Thank you for the link!

Good to know. I'm assuming car crashes fall under the same philosophy?
In my point of view, yes, because upon jumping there are so many variables and what ifs. What if one lands body flat? What if one lands headfirst, BUT on something? I have seen folks in wheelchairs that have to blow into them to move do anything. They ARE a prisoner in their own body.

I am 100% pro-choice on everything, HOWEVER, I do NOT want to see someone obtain a lifelong debilitating injury that leaves them so extremely poor shape.

Take me, I have 24/7 chronic pain AND I am starting to lose control on the right side of my body from a car crash where I was driving and another driver blew through a stop sign, did NOT even slow down and I t-boned him. I turned 69 today, 03.12 and if I live long enough, I will go into a wheelchair and then that is when the ctb ritual starts.

I live with the feeling of having the entire right side of my body being pulled apart, VERY nasty and VERY demoralizing.

I care about everyone on here, and I just do NOT want to see someone suffer.

Best wishes and caring thoughts to you.

Walter
 
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being paralyzed sucks. I'd try something more certain. I wasn't even trying to kill myself. I just fell and wish Idn't been saved.
 
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The highest the better i did jump from a balcony of 15 meters very low height, i sure almost died the thing that saved me was that a paramedic was walking by and an ambulance was chilling in the corner no kidding is so surreal to this day and one of the best orthopedist of the city was available and recognized that i was about to die because of severe internal blood loss nobody else realized that, i spent 3+ years bedbound/wheelchair only because one femur healed so slow what should have been full recovery in 1 year it took me more than 3
 
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i sure almost died the thing that saved me was that a paramedic was walking by and an ambulance was chilling in the corner

That's rather unfortunate that the ambulance was close by just as you were ctb'ing. I'd have been fuming.

I'm not brave enough to jump. Look at photos of high up places and I get a bit nervous just looking at pics.
 
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A lot higher than 5 storeys. ..a lot higher..
 
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People die from getting punched and hitting their head on the ground so it's technically possible. That being said, five stories is no where enough to be certain. Your body will reflexively try to break the fall. One member here survived 7 stories by landing feet first but had to get his leg amputated at the hip. IDK if it's true or not but there's the story of the "black tag woman" 9/11 jumper that was pretty much just a head and partial torso and still alive for some minutes asking someone to call her daughter. I also viewed a few pics of jumpers when initially researching methods. Jumping scares the $hit outa me. I don't now how people do it. Even fire seems preferable to me. But that's just my take. Anyway, 5 stories is something NO ONE here should advise.
 
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being paralyzed sucks. I'd try something more certain. I wasn't even trying to kill myself. I just fell and wish Idn't been saved.
How paralyzed are you? That's so sad
In my point of view, yes, because upon jumping there are so many variables and what ifs. What if one lands body flat? What if one lands headfirst, BUT on something? I have seen folks in wheelchairs that have to blow into them to move do anything. They ARE a prisoner in their own body.

I am 100% pro-choice on everything, HOWEVER, I do NOT want to see someone obtain a lifelong debilitating injury that leaves them so extremely poor shape.

Take me, I have 24/7 chronic pain AND I am starting to lose control on the right side of my body from a car crash where I was driving and another driver blew through a stop sign, did NOT even slow down and I t-boned him. I turned 69 today, 03.12 and if I live long enough, I will go into a wheelchair and then that is when the ctb ritual starts.

I live with the feeling of having the entire right side of my body being pulled apart, VERY nasty and VERY demoralizing.

I care about everyone on here, and I just do NOT want to see someone suffer.

Best wishes and caring thoughts to you.

Walter
Happy birthday. I'm surprised to see someone your age on here, thought it would be mostly younger people here.

I am very sorry to hear about your chronic pain and especially the losing control of your right side, that is horrifying. What specifically does it feel like? Is it constant or does it come and go?
 
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I am afraid of surviving from a 15th floor. Also, you need balls of steel to overcome SI. Sorry it's a bad idea.
 
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The highest the better i did jump from a balcony of 15 meters very low height, i sure almost died the thing that saved me was that a paramedic was walking by and an ambulance was chilling in the corner no kidding is so surreal to this day and one of the best orthopedist of the city was available and recognized that i was about to die because of severe internal blood loss nobody else realized that, i spent 3+ years bedbound/wheelchair only because one femur healed so slow what should have been full recovery in 1 year it took me more than 3
The highest the better i did jump from a balcony of 15 meters very low height, i sure almost died the thing that saved me was that a paramedic was walking by and an ambulance was chilling in the corner no kidding is so surreal to this day and one of the best orthopedist of the city was available and recognized that i was about to die because of severe internal blood loss nobody else realized that, i spent 3+ years bedbound/wheelchair only because one femur healed so slow what should have been full recovery in 1 year it took me mor

I am afraid of surviving from a 15th floor. Also, you need balls of steel to overcome SI. Sorry it's a bad idea.
SI? Assume that means survival instinct?
 
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people have lived falling out of planes jumping is really not great. If you must maybe do it on a brige so the water will make sure it works idk
 
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5 stories is absolutely not worth attempting.
 
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whywere

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How paralyzed are you? That's so sad

Happy birthday. I'm surprised to see someone your age on here, thought it would be mostly younger people here.

I am very sorry to hear about your chronic pain and especially the losing control of your right side, that is horrifying. What specifically does it feel like? Is it constant or does it come and go?
My CNS (central nervous system) on the entire right side of my body is trashed from the car crash. I have pain 24/7 and like most things, I have good and really bad days and nights.

I just had another MRI done and now I have progressive arthritis in my backbone. The 1st time that I went into my pain doctor after the MRI, he brought the imaging up and said "see those white spots all along your backbone, they are NOT supposed to be, it was arthritis".

I will be sleeping at night and snap awake with my right foot feeling as if someone is poking it with a white-hot needle.

Thank you so much for the birthday greetings, means the world to me.

Lots of love, hugs and you are an awesome soul.

Walter
 
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In my point of view, yes, because upon jumping there are so many variables and what ifs. What if one lands body flat? What if one lands headfirst, BUT on something? I have seen folks in wheelchairs that have to blow into them to move do anything. They ARE a prisoner in their own body.

I am 100% pro-choice on everything, HOWEVER, I do NOT want to see someone obtain a lifelong debilitating injury that leaves them so extremely poor shape.

Take me, I have 24/7 chronic pain AND I am starting to lose control on the right side of my body from a car crash where I was driving and another driver blew through a stop sign, did NOT even slow down and I t-boned him. I turned 69 today, 03.12 and if I live long enough, I will go into a wheelchair and then that is when the ctb ritual starts.

I live with the feeling of having the entire right side of my body being pulled apart, VERY nasty and VERY demoralizing.

I care about everyone on here, and I just do NOT want to see someone suffer.

Best wishes and caring thoughts to you.

Walter
Hello there, I also have chronic pain and understand how you feel in my own way. It's the main reason why I want to ctb :(
 
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This is ONLY my personal opinion. I would be afraid that I would be damaged for life and some have died from a short fall and some haven't. I'd do more research.
 
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Dont do it...5 floors...no!
 

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