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itssoover21

itssoover21

Member
May 21, 2025
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Title. I'm just scared that when i do eventually ctb i would permanently ruin my family somehow and i really don't want that, they have no hand in what I'm facing and have worked alot for me to try and get over it but to no avail unfortunately, so i want to know your thoughts on how i could possibly ensure that they don't fall apart or become permanently scarred because of me. I love them dearly and have hung onto life this far because of them, but that determination is running out and I'm tired and sick and can't go on anymore. It really sucks that the world is the way it is.
 
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DivineSpark

DivineSpark

Warlock
Feb 9, 2025
735
Yeah, I am not fond of inflicting pain upon my loved ones and friends. But I see no other way out.
 
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bankai

bankai

Enlightened
Mar 16, 2025
1,184
Well, you won't permanently scar them. They'll get over it. Eventually. And that's the truth.
 
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DivineSpark

Warlock
Feb 9, 2025
735
Well, you won't permanently scar them. They'll get over it. Eventually. And that's the truth.
My mother is closest member to me in my family....
 
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Rynalia

Rynalia

Plenty of questions that no one has answers for.
Apr 22, 2025
193
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but how others react is something that you as an individual have no control over.

You could do your best to maybe try and reduce the impact. Perhaps try to find a way to give closure. Perhaps find a way to tie up post mortem loose ends.

But just as your feelings are your own, theirs are also their own. Despite everything that you may try, you can't really just stop a family member from feeling how they do/will.

One day they may forget you to the sands of time, or maybe they will be reminded of you by a memento until their mental faculties fade away, or maybe they might even think about you on their own death bed. But only time will tell and only they will know.
 
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limpimitation

limpimitation

when the flowers come, i will go
May 15, 2025
36
My sister ctb when she was 14. Even though I'm depressed and understand her motives, it still really hurts and there are days that all I can do is cry and miss her.
 
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SecretDissociation

SecretDissociation

Suicide enthusiast
Sep 11, 2022
369
I'm not sure. I think that the most scarring thing that could happen to your family is them finding your body. That's what I think. But despite that, I think that it's invetiable anyway, and I had to make peace with it. I heard others do things like book a hotel, or ctb in a forest etc, and that is probably less scarring. But there is no surefire way, death and mourning hurts and that's just human nature.
 
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itssoover21

itssoover21

Member
May 21, 2025
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Yeah, I am not fond of inflicting pain upon my loved ones and friends. But I see no other way out.
It really sucks doesn't it
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I'm not sure. I think that the most scarring thing that could happen to your family is them finding your body. That's what I think. But despite that, I think that it's invetiable anyway, and I had to make peace with it. I heard others do things like book a hotel, or ctb in a forest etc, and that is probably less scarring. But there is no surefire way, death and mourning hurts and that's just human nature.
I've been trying to find a way to make it atleast seem natural-ish but that's not going too well
 
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Parasitism

Parasitism

Member
May 27, 2025
13
I've been thinking that a heroin overdose is a way to make it appear accidental. As in messed around with getting high and payed the price. I think that would be less traumatic than a family member actively choosing to die. It's probably a case to case situation though.
 
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Ligottian

Paragon
Dec 19, 2021
990
As I have posted here more than once, I took a private vow not to kill myself before both my parents died. The last one died in 2017. I have no wife, partner, or children. My only sibling, my sister, gets everything. It's hardly a fortune, but not peanuts either. We're not super close, so that might be some consolation.
 
Carrot

Carrot

Experienced
Feb 25, 2025
245
Well, you won't permanently scar them. They'll get over it. Eventually. And that's the truth.
Probably true for most people, it might take a long time. People adapt to new situations all the time and manage to deal with a lot of pain in their lives.
 
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kibo

kibo

What's so wrong about me
May 9, 2025
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Title. I'm just scared that when i do eventually ctb i would permanently ruin my family somehow and i really don't want that, they have no hand in what I'm facing and have worked alot for me to try and get over it but to no avail unfortunately, so i want to know your thoughts on how i could possibly ensure that they don't fall apart or become permanently scarred because of me. I love them dearly and have hung onto life this far because of them, but that determination is running out and I'm tired and sick and can't go on anymore. It really sucks that the world is the way it is.
Most likely forest abd suicide note would be your best bet
 
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Alexandra0

Alexandra0

Don't Fear the Reaper
Sep 30, 2023
233
They will still be in a lot of pain because you loved each other. That pain will stay with them, but it will get a little less as the years go by. I can tell you from personal experience that many relatives suffer a lot when they don't know why their family member committed suicide. That's why I'm always for leaving suicide notes. My relatives know that I'm suffering and I hope they'll be happy that I'll be free of this and I hope they'll respect my choice and do with my body the way I want. Yes, the world sucks and I'm sorry life was cruel to you
 
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EvisceratedJester

EvisceratedJester

|| What Else Could I Be But a Jester ||
Oct 21, 2023
4,818
Well, you won't permanently scar them. They'll get over it. Eventually. And that's the truth.
No, they likely will be permanently scarred. Plenty of people who have had loved ones commit suicide have talked about it impacting them even decades after. Hell, there have been cases of people who have signed up here specifically because they want to die due to not being able to cope with their loved one having ctbed despite it having happened years ago.

OP, your family will likely be scarred by your ctbing and there isn't much you can do about it. It's just a harsh reality that many of us have to deal with.
 
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Carrot

Carrot

Experienced
Feb 25, 2025
245
Well, you won't permanently scar them. They'll get over it. Eventually. And that's the truth.
No, they likely will be permanently scarred. Plenty of people who have had loved ones commit suicide have talked about it impacting them even decades after. Hell, there have been cases of people who have signed up here specifically because they want to die due to not being able to cope with their loved one having ctbed despite it having happened years ago.

OP, your family will likely be scarred by your ctbing and there isn't much you can do about it. It's just a harsh reality that many of us have to deal with.
I know I agreed to what bankai said a few comments ago, but what you write make me think. I made a mistake of talking about something I don't know much about. Here I go rambling again.

On one hand there is so much trauma, sometimes generational trauma, for example war. People can deal woith divorces, break ups. The moment you marry somebody you don't think you'll ever divorce, but then it happens, and it hurts. And over time it just hurts less.. Obviously suicide is much more extreme, but I don't see why it would be much different. At first you can't sleep at all, cry all the time, but you will not be crying 24/7 for 50 years or so. After 10 years, randomly you might start crying when you think about the person that ctb'd, but people can heal and move on with their lives, right?

On the other hand what if people can't cope and maybe fall into some addiction? Which one doesn't matter, computers games, porn, alcohol. Any addiction can ruin lives.
 
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EvisceratedJester

EvisceratedJester

|| What Else Could I Be But a Jester ||
Oct 21, 2023
4,818
I know I agreed to what bankai said a few comments ago, but what you write make me think. I made a mistake of talking about something I don't know much about. Here I go rambling again.

On one hand there is so much trauma, sometimes generational trauma, for example war. People can deal woith divorces, break ups. The moment you marry somebody you don't think you'll ever divorce, but then it happens, and it hurts. And over time it just hurts less.. Obviously suicide is much more extreme, but I don't see why it would be much different. At first you can't sleep at all, cry all the time, but you will not be crying 24/7 for 50 years or so. After 10 years, randomly you might start crying when you think about the person that ctb'd, but people can heal and move on with their lives, right?

On the other hand what if people can't cope and maybe fall into some addiction? Which one doesn't matter, computers games, porn, alcohol. Any addiction can ruin lives.
Yeah, I don't think you have much of an understanding of trauma. For one, getting divorced isn't the same as losing a loved one. Those are two completely different situations so your example here doesn't really work. You are comparing apples to oranges.

Losing a loved one for many can actually be very hard on them and this is usually only worsened in the case of suicide. Hence why you have grieving family members trying to take this site down all these years later. A large part of that stems from the trauma and pain they are suffering from as a result of their suicide. Death means you will never be able to see that person again, hear their voice irl, or experience things with them. Knowing that the person you loved had killed themself can also make it all the more difficult since you are probably more likely to blame yourself for their death.

Some of the people on this site seem to have a tendency to not think deeply about how suicide can impact those around them. If you plan on ctbing then I feel like an aspect of that is accepting the fact that those who care about you will be deeply hurt by it and that they will harbour pain in their hearts because of your decision. I don't like the fact that my suicide could hurt my family so deeply, but it's something I have to accept. That's why I want to make sure that I ctb only when they are all in a good place both mentally and physically so that they will hopefully be able to cope better with it.
 
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WatchmeBurn

Student
Apr 26, 2023
128
Well, you won't permanently scar them. They'll get over it. Eventually. And that's the truth.

That's not true, man. Close family and partners/friends do not usually get over it. Go to a suicide bereavement forum and you'll see people whose loved ones killed themselves decades ago and it still hurts for them. Grief like that isn't something you get over, it's something you live with for the rest of your life.

Make your choice, but let's not delude ourselves or others into thinking it's not something that'll leave a permanent scar on those who love you. It will likely destroy them, and you have to take that into account no matter what you decide to do.
 
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Carrot

Carrot

Experienced
Feb 25, 2025
245
I don't have the data, I'm not here to argue, just want to point something out.

Without a doubt there are people that grief forever. I don't know how many. Let's say 30% or 80%, the number here doesn't matter, but it would be easier to discuss if we knew the actual number. I value truth and scientific data over emotional statements extremely highly.

However cherry picked examples (looking at forums where some people still grief after decades) are not ideal, because of survivorship bias. Those people exist no doubt. However you don't see the people that got over the grief there, because they got over the grief.

Surely such thing as suicide is one of the most difficult things to get over though.

I knew somebody whose kid died (not suicide) at a very young age. Of course, once again, as I and others said before, it's not the same. But they got over it and lead reasonable lives. I'm sure they think of the kid, but they have normal lives now.

My parents almost are at retirement age, I doubt mine would get over it even if they live 20 more years.
 
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bankai

bankai

Enlightened
Mar 16, 2025
1,184
Sure OP. People are going to hurt. And it still doesn't matter. It's your life.
I agree with the sentiments of the people that have posted here. But yes. Each life is 1's own. If you decide, then well..The others are just going to have to live with it.

That being said, I don't think it's a decision ever made lightly. Survival instinct is not something that can easily be overcome. And I don't think you can just overcome it on the first attempt. It's going to take a lot of doing. So if you get to that point where you're really sure and you're really confident that you wanna do it. Then it's quite understandable.It takes courage and determination and at that point I know that you really don't have any other choice.

I know I'm going to be around for quite some time because the first time I put the noose around my neck My SI was so damn high, oh God 😂.I'm already aware that I can't overcome it. It is what it is.

The day will come when I can though.When it does, everyone else, just has to deal with it I suppose.
 
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Dot

Info abt typng styl on prfle.
Sep 26, 2021
3,306
Well, you won't permanently scar them. They'll get over it. Eventually. And that's the truth.

Thnk u nd 2 acknwldge th/ dffrnce bewtn 'gttng ovr' suicde breavement & adjustng & adaptng t/ a cmpletly dffrnt lfe thn thy wre xpectng or hopng fr -- sme ppl mght 'mve on' wth thr lfe bt th/ scar wll mst defntly b thre & th/ effcts wll lkely b permnnt - sme mght adpt & cpe bettr thn othrs bt wll nt 'gt ovr' wht happnd & up t/ apprx 1/3 t/ 1/2 of breaved ppl wll develp mre sevre psychlgcl problms



"A large body of data has found that suicide-loss survivors are at greater risk than other bereaved individuals and the general population for many severe psychological and health problems. "

"Research has revealed that suicide-loss survivors present higher levels of depression, and suicidal ideation and behavior [6, 7] than other bereaved individuals."

"Grafiadeli and colleagues [24] found that about half of the examined population showed elevated prolonged grief disorder symptoms, and one-third of the sample also showed PTSD symptoms. In a six-year longitudinal study, Levi-Belz and Brinbaum [15] highlighted that suicide bereavement facilitated higher levels of depression and suicide ideation"
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"The loss of loved ones to suicide often brings about significant emotional distress, including depression, anxiety, and post-traumatic stress disorder, which can lead to another suicide"

"The rate of suicide was two times greater among the families of suicide victims than among the families with no suicide victims (Runeson and Åsberg, 2003)."

"They are at a heightened risk of experiencing complicated grief (which does not abate over time and is known to be highly related to suicide ideation) also known as complicated bereavement disorder (Holland and Neimeyer, 2011). "
Sourc 2

"These effects included an increased risk of suicide in partners bereaved by suicide, increased risk of required admission to psychiatric care for parents bereaved by the suicide of an offspring, increased risk of suicide in mothers bereaved by an adult child's suicide, and increased risk of depression in offspring bereaved by the suicide of a parent."
Sourc 3

"With prevalence of Prolonged Grief Disorder (PGD), estimates ranging from 9.8 % to 34.3 % in bereaved populations, especially following traumatic or sudden losses, the need for effective interventions is urgent."

"Characterized by intense yearning, preoccupation with the deceased, and profound social and emotional disturbances, PGD is associated with adverse physical and mental health outcomes."

"Limited acceptance of the loss, social disconnection, isolation, diminished sense of self, inability to find meaning in life, and persistent preoccupation with the deceased are additional diagnostic criteria that people experiencing PGD may exhibit"

"Specific populations are more likely to experience PGD such as bereaved parents, spouses, and siblings (Thieleman et al., 2023)"
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"No parent will ever "get over" the death of their child by suicide, and they shouldn't be expected to. But many do find that, with time, they discover a way to live with the loss and see meaning in life again"
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NonEssential

NonEssential

Hanging in there
Jan 15, 2025
364
I don't think that's going to be possible, but still I don't feel like I can keep going if the only reason is to spare others' feelings.
 
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