Method FSH vs Jumping

[Morris1211]

I haven't decided on a method yet. For FSH I haven't found an anchor point good enough and not sure if I'm smart enough to figure out the knots. I did spend a lot of time reading about FSH in the mega thread. My other option is jumping. I have posted about this before. The building is a hotel from the height I'd be jumping from would be about 300ft. I've included a pic and circled the jumping point. I know people on here have feelings about jumping in a public place but it's my only option in my city. There aren't a lot of tall buildings I'd have access to rooftop or close to. I would do it at night when less people are around and I bought binoculars to make sure no one would be walking in the area while I jumped. What do you think? I also ordered a rope and will try practicing knots. I do not want to fail at this and I need to find an end very soon as I am suffering greatly with protracted withdrawal syndrome.

 

[Morris1211]

Bump. Any advice appreciated.

 

[dalemar]

The building looks quite high.
I think both of the methods work, however I think jumping is "easier" to do, and seems to be faster.
As you said, If you do it at night, and make sure no one is walking below, sounds right.
I wish you all the best!

 

[AreWeWinning]

I haven't decided on a method yet. For FSH I haven't found an anchor point good enough and not sure if I'm smart enough to figure out the knots. I did spend a lot of time reading about FSH in the mega thread. My other option is jumping. I have posted about this before. The building is a hotel from the height I'd be jumping from would be about 300ft. I've included a pic and circled the jumping point. I know people on here have feelings about jumping in a public place but it's my only option in my city. There aren't a lot of tall buildings I'd have access to rooftop or close to. I would do it at night when less people are around and I bought binoculars to make sure no one would be walking in the area while I jumped. What do you think? I also ordered a rope and will try practicing knots. I do not want to fail at this and I need to find an end very soon as I am suffering greatly with protracted withdrawal syndrome.

Bump. Any advice appreciated.

Jumping is highly lethal and pretty reliable, but it still has a minimal risk of failure. Even if there is enough height and a hard surface, there is a 0–1% (I don't know the exact number) chance of failure. The advantage of jumping is that it's simple. If someone doesn't have the skills to create a good setup for hanging, jumping might be the safer option.

In my opinion, hanging is more certain as long as you are able to create a strong setup that doesn't break under your weight. You also need to be absolutely sure that no one interrupts you or finds you too soon. In full suspension, it's almost certain that you'll pass out very quickly. Even if you're extremely unlucky, and you don't, you'll still die with certainty as long as no one finds you and your setup doesn't break.

 

[Morris1211]

Jumping is highly lethal and pretty reliable, but it still has a minimal risk of failure. Even if there is enough height and a hard surface, there is a 0–1% (I don't know the exact number) chance of failure. The advantage of jumping is that it's simple. If someone doesn't have the skills to create a good setup for hanging, jumping might be the safer option.

In my opinion, hanging is more certain as long as you are able to create a strong setup that doesn't break under your weight. You also need to be absolutely sure that no one interrupts you or finds you too soon. In full suspension, it's almost certain that you'll pass out very quickly. Even if you're extremely unlucky, and you don't, you'll still die with certainty as long as no one finds you and your setup doesn't break.

Even if you don't pass out very quickly what's the longest estimated time frame until you do? I've read a lot about FSH in the mega thread. My understanding is to use 12mm polyester braided static rope and position it right under the jaw above the Adam's apple which I don't have because I'm female. Have the knot at the back of the neck. Which knot do you recommend? And it should be self tightening and not fixed. With a stopper knot

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

I could never jump. I might be able to hang.

 

[Morris1211]

I could never jump. I might be able to hang.

Are you suicidal?

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

Are you suicidal?

Yes

 

[Morris1211]

Yes

How would you CTB?

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

How would you CTB?

Hanging. I've considered buying a gun via local classifieds and I ordered SN but it's gonna take forever to get here. I SHOULD get the gun but I'm afraid for some reason. Too depressed to interact with people much.

 

[Morris1211]

Hanging. I've considered buying a gun via local classifieds and I ordered SN but it's gonna take forever to get here. I SHOULD get the gun but I'm afraid for some reason. Too depressed to interact with people much.

I live in Canada and would give anything to have access to a gun.

 

[OnMyLast Legs]

I live in Canada and would give anything to have access to a gun.

I'm just so low on agency right now. A rational person who wanted to die would go to the classifieds, buy the gun, drive home, and shoot himself. I would rather sit at home and talk about suicide all day. I do have a noose tied at the business end and cut to proper length. It's seconds to unconsciousness in every video I see.

 

[Terrible_Life]

I'll do fsh but I remember 5 years ago I was extremely depressed and at that time i had no idea about suicide so I simply just thought because i wanted to
Do it asap that i should go to a apartment building where they have those kinda like balcony on every floor and jump from there.
I am glad I never did this because with my bad luck maybe I'd have survived and also what I really hate about jumping method is thay you'll become a public attraction. People will see you staying there all of look at you take out their phone film you etc so hanging is much better for me.

 

[Morris1211]

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I'm just so low on agency right now. A rational person who wanted to die would go to the classifieds, buy the gun, drive home, and shoot himself. I would rather sit at home and talk about suicide all day. I do have a noose tied at the business end and cut to proper length. It's seconds to unconsciousness in every video I see.

I've heard people say that it's horrible and you get the choking/exploding head feeling and they can't go through with it. Which is upsetting because I want to quick unconsciousness.

 

[dreamgarden]

Even if you don't pass out very quickly what's the longest estimated time frame until you do? I've read a lot about FSH in the mega thread. My understanding is to use 12mm polyester braided static rope and position it right under the jaw above the Adam's apple which I don't have because I'm female. Have the knot at the back of the neck. Which knot do you recommend? And it should be self tightening and not fixed. With a stopper knot

loss of consciousness from hanging when done right is usually around 5-15s with 20s as a worst-case scenario. your understanding on rope and ligature and knot position is correct. directly under the jaw is often the best place. arbor knot (noose knot + stopper knot) for the ligature and bowline knot, anchor hitch knot, or overhand loop knot for the anchor point, according to a very helpful user's post.

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I've heard people say that it's horrible and you get the choking/exploding head feeling and they can't go through with it. Which is upsetting because I want to quick unconsciousness.

from what i understand, compressing only certain veins in the neck cause that head-exploding feeling.

there are veins that purge blood from the brain back to the heart and arteries that bring oxygenated blood to the brain. as a result, when only the vein is blocked and the artery is left untouched, nothing is allowing the blood to leave and it builds up because of the untouched artery, causing that agonizing, exploding feeling due to an excess of blood in the brain.

the veins, iirc, are much easier to hit than the arteries because the former needs much less force to block than the latter, as well as the depth.

however, with the right rope and its thinness, depth should be no issue as your body weight will help tighten the ligature into the neck and hit those key veins and arteries. hitting those arteries are also what is needed for quick unconsciousness since the brain is very sensitive to oxygen deprivation; take away its source (the key arteries) and brain cells will rapidly die. average time frame for this loss of consciousness is around 5-15s if done right.

as for choking, unfortunately, that's just an unavoidable side-effect. body weight will slide the rope to the highest point on the neck and cause the inner muscles to force the tongue up and block your airway. hyperventilating beforehand can help with this as it lets you hold your breath longer without having that panicky feeling of CO2 build-up arise. additionally, lubricating your rope to help it slide to that highest point is often beneficial and recommended.

source(s):
this much more helpful user's post
hanging mechanics (from the same user)

i hope this helps you and i don't mean to reiterate empty platitudes, but i'm sorry you're suffering this way.

edit: spelling

 

[Morris1211]

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loss of consciousness from hanging when done right is usually around 5-15s with 20s as a worst-case scenario. your understanding on rope and ligature and knot position is correct. directly under the jaw is often the best place. arbor knot (noose knot + stopper knot) for the ligature and bowline knot, anchor hitch knot, or overhand loop knot for the anchor point, according to a very helpful user's post.


from what i understand, compressing only certain veins in the neck cause that head-exploding feeling.

there are veins that purge blood from the brain back to the heart and arteries that bring oxygenated blood to the brain. as a result, when only the vein is blocked and the artery is left untouched, nothing is allowing the blood to leave and it builds up because of the untouched artery, causing that agonizing, exploding feeling due to an excess of blood in the brain.

the veins, iirc, are much easier to hit than the arteries because the former needs much less force to block than the latter, as well as the depth.

however, with the right rope and its thinness, depth should be no issue as your body weight will help tighten the ligature into the neck and hit those key veins and arteries. hitting those arteries are also what is needed for quick unconsciousness since the brain is very sensitive to oxygen deprivation; take away its source (the key arteries) and brain cells will rapidly die. average time frame for this loss of consciousness is around 5-15s if done right.

as for choking, unfortunately, that's just an unavoidable side-effect. body weight will slide the rope to the highest point on the neck and cause the inner muscles to force the tongue up and block your airway. hyperventilating beforehand can help with this as it lets you hold your breath longer without having that panicky feeling of CO2 build-up arise. additionally, lubricating your rope to help it slide to that highest point is often beneficial and recommended.

source(s):
this much more helpful user's post
hanging mechanics (from the same user)

i hope this helps you and i don't mean to reiterate empty platitudes, but i'm sorry you're suffering this way.

edit: spelling

Thank you for the informative post and resources. Especially on which knots to use. The trick will be learning how to tie them but I've seen some animations on here of how to do that. Last thing I'd want is my rope to come undone before the job is done. I need to find a good anchor point as well.