Fentanyl - Just Really Curious

[rian 69]

Fentanyl. No doubt we've all heard about the crisis and my guess is a bunch of us have a connection to someone who OD'd on it either accidentally, purposefully or the intent just won't be known.

I am new here - less than a week. I'll put my personal details aside except to say I am 69, was a lawyer who went on SS disability 15 years ago 90% cause of MH anxiety disorder/panic attacks lots and as always depression wrapped around it. It eased up a bit after then my Mom died (too soon after I moved back home) and she was not just my best friend but really my only true friend. No other family to speak of. Then Covid isolation and now just isolation.

I've had ideations forever. As my "brain"disease has progressed with all types of treatments tried and either useless or made things even worse, I am now not just thinking about and looking for a peaceful out choice but am much more inclined cause this is not a temporary problem and some recent events lead me to believe Alzheimer's is now on the table.

Back to fentanyl - there was a time many,many years ago (think high school, college, even law school and early law days when finding a credible source would not have been a problem. I was not a major drug user but, on occasion did partake. It sure seems to me that the PPH, here too, Fentanyl isn't mentioned or barely mentioned. Talk of doing all sorts of obtaining various components, chemicals, etc.

So for me fentanyl seems perfect if I had access to it. Clearly it's all around me (I live on east coast of US) but I'm not mobile, have no connections or even possible connections. I have talked to docs I know off the books about pain relief because getting scripts for real stuff is like almost impossible. Guess they're afraid that old people like me will all of a sudden become addicts e en though back in the day I had a bunch of delicate surgeries and getting oxys was not a big deal. The addiction stories were way overblown.

Just seems like there'd be more talk and interest in it as a peaceful and dependable exit and it really takes very, very little to do the trick.

Makes me wonder why, I guess. You hear bout going to Mexico or South America to maybe get lucky and find nembutyl and then guess how much you need and pray it makes it home without being found out.

And we talk (and I've tried various forms of so far useless and sometimes painful hanging) but not about the obvious. I just don't get it.

 

[summa_tyme2224]

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[blacksand]

Most people here are afraid to use the darknet to obtain it. The problem is much of the stuff on the streets is not even real fentanyl these days.

 

[Peter Skellern]

Most people here are afraid to use the darknet to obtain it. The problem is much of the stuff on the streets is not even real fentanyl these days.

And you have confidence in the quality on the DW?

 

[blacksand]

And you have confidence in the quality on the DW?

Yes very much so. Good vendors with established reputations only. I have a stockpile of fent that I am considering pressing into pills as a method. Something portable and easy to conceal where my gun isn't.

 

[LunarEc]

And you have confidence in the quality on the DW?

If you are OD'ing why would the quality matter that much? I know higher purity means a better chance at death but even if it wasn't as pure it would still kill you. Just figure out a location for the drop off and probably don't pick it up for a whole week...look around before you do, and don't get scammed.

 

[blacksand]

I've drunk a lethal dose of fent mixed with water before chickening and puking it up on purpose. Heavy sedation and manual breathing was required for hours afterwards to stay awake just from what absorbed in the few seconds it was in my gut. Absolutely no doubt the dose was lethal without immediate vomiting.

 

[Peter Skellern]

I looked at it but its not really available in my Country on the DW. All the vendors are USA or Canadian.

 

[marios]

Yes very much so. Good vendors with established reputations only. I have a stockpile of fent that I am considering pressing into pills as a method. Something portable and easy to conceal where my gun isn't.

i am not good at all with computers and co. but fent was my first choice, i tried to find a seller in the DW but could not find one, i even tried to ask chat gpt to guide me into find a seller but (obviously) it did not helped me at all, it just told me to download tor and use onion as a search engine.i am european but i gues when silk road was online it could be possible to get it. there is something you could tel me to help me into find a seller? i would appreciate any little thing that could bring me to find a fent seller that send it to europe

I looked at it but its not really available in my Country on the DW. All the vendors are USA or Canadian.

are you european?

 

[Peter Skellern]

i am not good at all with computers and co. but fent was my first choice, i tried to find a seller in the DW but could not find one, i even tried to ask chat gpt to guide me into find a seller but (obviously) it did not helped me at all, it just told me to download tor and use onion as a search engine.i am european but i gues when silk road was online it could be possible to get it. there is something you could tel me to help me into find a seller? i would appreciate any little thing that could bring me to find a fent seller that send it to europe

are you european?

Yes. They wont typically. Its USA to USA. I personally also wouldn't want the agro re being involved in importing a Class A drug.

 

[be or not to be]

I've drunk a lethal dose of fent mixed with water before chickening and puking it up on purpose. Heavy sedation and manual breathing was required for hours afterwards to stay awake just from what absorbed in the few seconds it was in my gut. Absolutely no doubt the dose was lethal without immediate vomiting.

How much fentanyl did you take? It was pure?

 

[blacksand]

How much fentanyl did you take? It was pure?

I took about 75mg of pure fentanyl.

i am not good at all with computers and co. but fent was my first choice, i tried to find a seller in the DW but could not find one, i even tried to ask chat gpt to guide me into find a seller but (obviously) it did not helped me at all, it just told me to download tor and use onion as a search engine.i am european but i gues when silk road was online it could be possible to get it. there is something you could tel me to help me into find a seller? i would appreciate any little thing that could bring me to find a fent seller that send it to europe

are you european?

No one can spoon feed you. Only organically learning it is safe.

 

[fentgirl]

Sorry for my english. I was a big time fentanyl lover. First time I took it was to end thing but it did not work and the feeling was so incredibly wonderful. For a year I took it every day and I didn't care about anything, I was finally happy and my life improved so much (New friendship, drop weight) but I was spending so much money on it(cost me around 400$/day).

I save 2 close friend from OD. When they both wake up they told me that they were feeling so good and slippy. No pain at all. After a year I try to end thing by smoking 1000$ in one night but I was falling asleep before being able to consume enough fenty. I try to inject and it was the same thing.

If you don't pass, you're going to be addicted and if you don't have mom and dad to save your ass and put you on methadone, you're gonna end up homeless. I was an accountant in a big city and now I live in the middle of no where with my mom.

I would not suggest it. It's really hard to inject yourself. At the begging you don't know how to smoke it correctly so you can't CTB with it. It's absolutely NOT like smoking cigarette and weed.

 

[finishLana]

Fent can be placed in an enteric (acid resistant) capsule, then released in the small intestine where it is absorbed

Better sedate yourself prior with benzos or similar and take AE just for extra safety

 

[wiggy]

Personally, I would steer well clear of anything not obtained from a legitimate source. When I was a bit younger and used drugs recreationally(mostly stimulants and hallucinogens, nothing like opioids), we would always test the purity of the stuff, and what we found was pretty appalling, even when buying from "trusted" vendors. I think faking some kind of chronic back pain to a doctor until you get something prescribed is a much more attractive route, if you don't have known history of drug abuse or suicidality he shouldn't have any reason to suspect you. If you're in your 60s or 70s it should be fairly credible.

If you are OD'ing why would the quality matter that much? I know higher purity means a better chance at death but even if it wasn't as pure it would still kill you. Just figure out a location for the drop off and probably don't pick it up for a whole week...look around before you do, and don't get scammed.

The quality doesn't become any less important if your intent is to take a lethal dose. You have no idea what it's cut with - you could be taking a non fatal dosage of any number of substances that will leave you with a failed attempt and permanent damage.

If you don't pass, you're going to be addicted and if you don't have mom and dad to save your ass and put you on methadone, you're gonna end up homeless. I was an accountant in a big city and now I live in the middle of no where with my mom.

Thanks for sharing your experience. I had not even considered the fact you could become addicted after one heavy hit, that's an extremely salient point to bear in mind.

 

[BadChanges]

What about buying 20 fentanyl patches instead from a legit source?

 

[wiggy]

What about buying 20 fentanyl patches instead from a legit source?

Patches are, by design, a very slow form of delivery. The contained dosage is deferred over the course of several days, up to a week - in normal settings, it might take up to 2 days before you feel any effect whatsoever. I imagine if you're taking 20x a standard dose it wouldn't take nearly that long, but I wouldn't expect it to be instant either.

 

[BadChanges]

Patches are, by design, a very slow form of delivery. The contained dosage is deferred over the course of several days, up to a week - in normal settings, it might take up to 2 days before you feel any effect whatsoever. I imagine if you're taking 20x a standard dose it wouldn't take nearly that long, but I wouldn't expect it to be instant either.

Thank you. But is it fatal eventually?if so, how should it feel like during the day leading to the eventual death?

 

[heyismeman]

Sorry for my english. I was a big time fentanyl lover. First time I took it was to end thing but it did not work and the feeling was so incredibly wonderful. For a year I took it every day and I didn't care about anything, I was finally happy and my life improved so much (New friendship, drop weight) but I was spending so much money on it(cost me around 400$/day).

I save 2 close friend from OD. When they both wake up they told me that they were feeling so good and slippy. No pain at all. After a year I try to end thing by smoking 1000$ in one night but I was falling asleep before being able to consume enough fenty. I try to inject and it was the same thing.

If you don't pass, you're going to be addicted and if you don't have mom and dad to save your ass and put you on methadone, you're gonna end up homeless. I was an accountant in a big city and now I live in the middle of no where with my mom.

I would not suggest it. It's really hard to inject yourself. At the begging you don't know how to smoke it correctly so you can't CTB with it. It's absolutely NOT like smoking cigarette and weed.

Yea but I don't think you did it correctly to begin with, smoking it won't kill you as you'll pass out before a lethal dose. Someone who has a legit source can od and pass very easily. Snort a gram of pure fent and it's game over. Or you can be like me and plan on oral 2 gram then snort 2 grams. This is close to 4k times the lethal dose and zero tolerance is important

 

[wiggy]

Thank you. But is it fatal eventually?if so, how should it feel like during the day leading to the eventual death?

I'm not a medical professional, but in principle I don't see why it would be impossible to take a fatal dose of fent via patches. Then again, if you're able to thug it out, in principle there's nothing stopping you from ingesting a lethal amount of water, as a member recently inquired in a thread. You have to consider the practicality of the method - how realistic is it that you'll be able to endure extreme pain and discomfort for a prolongued period of time?

 

[heyismeman]

Thank you. But is it fatal eventually?if so, how should it feel like during the day leading to the eventual death?

If your talking 20x 100ug that is 2mg per hour, so in an hour and a half youre in the ld50 for fent, in 3 hours it's 6mg which is very much fatal. The math is obvious just do the math. You'll pass out in 1 hour and probably have a fatal amount in 2 hours at 4mg of fent. In 10 hours 20mg which is fatal 100% if you have no tolerance, so yes

 

[wiggy]

If your talking 20x 100ug that is 2mg per hour, so in an hour and a half youre in the ld50 for fent, in 3 hours it's 6mg which is very much fatal. The math is obvious just do the math. You'll pass out in 1 hour and probably have a fatal amount in 2 hours at 4mg of fent. In 10 hours 20mg which is fatal 100% if you have no tolerance, so yes

Transdermal patches are designed to be approximately linear over an extended period of time, and in that scenario it's fine to assume a model of a transdermal patch as releasing a set amount of medication per unit of time. However, utilizing 20 patches at once is far from the intended use case,, and I'm not sure how prudent it would be to take take a simplified view in that case. I should reiterate that I am not a medical or pharmaceutical professional, but I do know from personal experience that transdermal opioid patches aren't really linear. If you care to do some digging, you'll find that the drug release kinectics are governed by some pretty complicated equations, or at least complicated enough to go over my head.

 

[soonatpeace777888]

I wish I could source it but there is just too much fake shit.

 

[fentgirl]

It's extremely difficult to get good fentanyl. It's a dangerous drug and people who sell it are asshole. I try to get pure fent and it was really difficult and expensive. There is a lot of desperate people and thieve… if you eat fent it's not really effective you lost a big part of it. Smoke it? It tastes like shite and burn your lounge. If you want to OD the best way is intravenous .

I want to warn people. If you miss it your tolerance may increase quickly and you may not be able to OD.

I was using fentanyl, carfentanyl, isotonytazene, benzo.

 

[Eudaimonic]

Patches are, by design, a very slow form of delivery. The contained dosage is deferred over the course of several days, up to a week - in normal settings, it might take up to 2 days before you feel any effect whatsoever. I imagine if you're taking 20x a standard dose it wouldn't take nearly that long, but I wouldn't expect it to be instant either.

What about doing it in a hot tub?

 

[fentgirl]

What about doing it in a hot tub?

It doesn't change anything, I used to smoke patch and it wasn't really strong compared to the street fent. It's really difficult to OD with patch because you start puking way before.

If you put your hand one it try to shoot, you need to know what kind of needle to use. One time my friend got insulin needle.. Didn't work. You need to shoot intravenous not intramuscular.

 

[Eudaimonic]

It doesn't change anything, I used to smoke patch and it wasn't really strong compared to the street fent. If you put your hand one it try to shoot, you need to know what kind of needle to use. One time my friend got insulin needle.. Didn't work. You need to shoot intravenous not intramuscular.

I don't understand. Many people have died from doing this in a hot tub or sauna. The heat accelerates release and absorption of the drug, expediting what could otherwise take a few days.

 

[fentgirl]

I wish I could source it but there is just too much fake shit.

Every time I got something else than fentanyl it was something way stronger! If you want to CTB it's better but be careful.

 

[Eudaimonic]

It doesn't change anything, I used to smoke patch and it wasn't really strong compared to the street fent. It's really difficult to OD with patch because you start puking way before.

If you put your hand one it try to shoot, you need to know what kind of needle to use. One time my friend got insulin needle.. Didn't work. You need to shoot intravenous not intramuscular.

Also, what's wrong with intramuscular?

 

[fentgirl]

Also, what's wrong with intramuscular?

It doesn't work as much as intravenous. Also when I was shooting myself sometime I was falling asleep before I finish shooting everything. One time I fall asleep and wake up with my arms completely paralyzed it took 2 month of therapy for my arms to be back to normal.