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So I was out with my friends the other day and tried telling them I dont come out much cause of depression/ptsd. I know they didnt mean this offensively and just trying to make me not feel alone but they said everyone is mentally ill, (my parents have said this as well) Yes, everyone has problems and a lot of people have anxiety and mild depression. But most people arent in bed all the time or suicidal/non functioning from mental illness. Most people just dont get it..
 
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Yeah, there is a big difference between being functional with mild mental illnesses and what we have. Deep seated illnesses that make us literally incapable of operating. There is a big difference. You'd think having mental illness would make them more able to understand how difficult it is for you. It should give them a level of understanding and recognition for how bad it is for you <3
 
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I believe everyone has some degree of mental issues, but the intensity and how much it interferes on life depends on the person. I think everyone would benefit from realizing that they also have mental issues that need addressing, because some have a real effect on how the world is run (As in how badly it is run)

At least that's what I think they meant. If they're smart people, that's a fair assumption. Maybe you should expand on your point? If they're real friends, they'll listen and understand.
 
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So I was out with my friends the other day and tried telling them I dont come out much cause of depression/ptsd. I know they didnt mean this offensively and just trying to make me not feel alone but they said everyone is mentally ill, (my parents have said this as well) Yes, everyone has problems and a lot of people have anxiety and mild depression. But most people arent in bed all the time or suicidal/non functioning from mental illness. Most people just dont get it..
Or most people is just working or keeping the mind busy so they dont have time to think about it , unfortunately for me , thats not the case , even working I cant stop overthinking the worst scenery possible
 
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Or most people is just working or keeping the mind busy so they dont have time to think about it , unfortunately for me , thats not the case , even working I cant stop overthinking the worst scenery possible
That's what separates "mild" from "severe" in most cases. Most people have the "mild", we lucky few have the "severe"
 
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I'm 200% sure that the person who said that to you isn't mentally ill. Those people don't get it.
 
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So I was out with my friends the other day and tried telling them I dont come out much cause of depression/ptsd. I know they didnt mean this offensively and just trying to make me not feel alone but they said everyone is mentally ill, (my parents have said this as well) Yes, everyone has problems and a lot of people have anxiety and mild depression. But most people arent in bed all the time or suicidal/non functioning from mental illness. Most people just dont get it..
100% agree with you as far as people do not get it at all.

The sad fact, at least in most of my experiences are the fact that they do not give a rat's butt.

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I believe everyone has some degree of mental issues, but the intensity and how much it interferes on life depends on the person. I think everyone would benefit from realizing that they also have mental issues that need addressing, because some have a real effect on how the world is run (As in how badly it is run)

At least that's what I think they meant. If they're smart people, that's a fair assumption. Maybe you should expand on your point? If they're real friends, they'll listen and understand.
Anxiety, fear, and sadness are all normal emotions and useful when experienced in the right situation. It's only when you start feeling those in situations where they're not helpful that it's an illness.
 
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Anxiety, fear, and sadness are all normal emotions and useful when experienced in the right situation. It's only when you start feeling those in situations where they're not helpful that it's an illness.
Most of these are survival instinct, from back when we actually needed them to survive. Nowadays, they are mostly vestigial, and thus undesirable to a society that wishes to become truly civilized.

Thing is, until we start to see anxiety and fear as something to be eradicated from the human mind, we will live in a society that is fraught with deceit, otherism and authoritarianism. Until them, humans will be no better than animals with a conscience.

But I digress, this thread is not about that.
 
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Most of these are survival instinct, from back when we actually needed them to survive. Nowadays, they are mostly vestigial, and thus undesirable to a society that wishes to become truly civilized.

Thing is, until we start to see anxiety and fear as something to be eradicated from the human mind, we will live in a society that is fraught with deceit, otherism and authoritarianism. Until them, humans will be no better than animals with a conscience.

But I digress, this thread is not about that.
Some of our brains dont realize there is no Sabertooth tiger trying to get us lol
 
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Most of these are survival instinct, from back when we actually needed them to survive. Nowadays, they are mostly vestigial, and thus undesirable to a society that wishes to become truly civilized.

Thing is, until we start to see anxiety and fear as something to be eradicated from the human mind, we will live in a society that is fraught with deceit, otherism and authoritarianism. Until them, humans will be no better than animals with a conscience.

But I digress, this thread is not about that.
I lost my ability to feel anxiety over a trauma. Thing is, it really sucks. I procrastinate and usually that stops being a problem once the anxiety over the consequence kicks in, but in this case I don't do that. I've had a friend take a psychiatric medication that made them unable to feel anxiety, so their life was completely destroyed because they watched it happen but didn't care until they stopped taking the drug. Anxiety is absolutely necessary to get things done. If you can't feel stressed about your future, you can't future plan at all.
 
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I will I think

Some of our brains dont realize there is no Sabertooth tiger trying to get us lol
Well, there's bears out there, and if they're not me, you should watch out!

But other than that, yeah, unneeded functions for dangers that no longer assail us, and then become outright harmful to ourselves and others.
 
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Well, there's bears out there, and if they're not me, you should watch out!

But other than that, yeah, unneeded functions for dangers that no longer assail us, and then become outright harmful to ourselves and others.
Bears scare me less than people!
 
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I lost my ability to feel anxiety over a trauma. Thing is, it really sucks. I procrastinate and usually that stops being a problem once the anxiety over the consequence kicks in, but in this case I don't do that. I've had a friend take a psychiatric medication that made them unable to feel anxiety, so their life was completely destroyed because they watched it happen but didn't care until they stopped taking the drug. Anxiety is absolutely necessary to get things done. If you can't feel stressed about your future, you can't future plan at all.
Anxiety isn't the only thing that makes us want to do things. The search for pleasure, connection, and sometimes curiosity moves us as well. If we let anxiety alone move us forward, we will build a future on a weak foundation.
Bears scare me less than people!
RAWR lemme hug ya! 🧸
 
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I don't think any mentally ill person would say everyone is mentally ill… sorry that happened
 
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I don't think any mentally ill person would say everyone is mentally ill… sorry that happened
Are you saying I'm not mentally ill? Oh? Hooray, my Autism is cured! Thanks kind stranger!
 
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People on here have a lot of emotional intelligence. Most people dont have this
 
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"Everyone is a bit crazy" , makes your blood boil a bit, doesn't it? Yeah, you're artificially retarded dumbass, it's your choice , I didn't choose this life. (I would have said something like this to them to be honest, don't know your friends and how'd they react but yeah)
 
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I believe everyone has some degree of mental issues, but the intensity and how much it interferes on life depends on the person. I think everyone would benefit from realizing that they also have mental issues that need addressing, because some have a real effect on how the world is run (As in how badly it is run)

At least that's what I think they meant. If they're smart people, that's a fair assumption. Maybe you should expand on your point? If they're real friends, they'll listen and understand.

@Lovey I said earlier that everyone has some degree of mental issues, so yeah, by your logic, I am not mentally ill! Yay! Depression is cured!
 
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I hate when people say this dumb shit. The average person doesnt walk around wanting to die every three seconds, in fact they are horrified by the idea of their own mortality. Not everyone is depressed, and feeling a little sad doesnt mean ur depressed. So fucking obnoxious.
 
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Yeah I don't think we are talking about the same concept. An illness is something that takes away quality of life significantly, so I would say it's pretty dismissive to say everyone is mentally ill when most people won't need psychiatric treatment or psychological intervention for prolonged periods of time.
 
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I do think your friends were trying to be inclusive, but I agree it's not a great way of going about this.

Sometimes people who've experienced milder and shorter lasting issues are paradoxically worse to deal with. I've met a few people like this who think my depression is as easy to get over as theres was for them. They think my ongoing issues are proof I'm putting no effort in because of how little it took for them. A little knowledge and all that :/
 
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Yeah I don't think we are talking about the same concept. An illness is something that takes away quality of life significantly, so I would say it's pretty dismissive to say everyone is mentally ill when most people won't need psychiatric treatment or psychological intervention for prolonged periods of time.
If we let the smaller problem become a bigger problem, it gets harder to solve it. While some mental problems coming from birth are usually unavoidable, those that are not aren't an overnight switch, It takes time, sometimes a long time, and it eats away without you recognizing it. Like a Cancer, it's better to treat it while it's early. It may seem innocuous now, but if we let it grow, it may as well become a monster. Depression is like this, Anxiety is like this, OCD is like this. They start as small things, usually "normal" stuff, and then when they grow to a size we can't handle, we become "Mentally Ill"
 
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I hate when people say this dumb shit. The average person doesnt walk around wanting to die every three seconds, in fact they are horrified by the idea of their own mortality. Not everyone is depressed, and feeling a little sad doesnt mean ur depressed. So fucking obnoxious.
True most people are terrified of death. Im like whatever
 
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While I agree society goes through waves of collective insanity, the way your friend and other's say "everyone's mentally ill" is a dismissive and covert way of saying "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" or "get over it". It can be culturally ingrained to the point they say it without overtly meaning harm. Unfortunately, for every one that actually suffers there seems to be a dozen pity grifters that truly do need to be called out. Still, I'd love to see how your friend would react if you told them -

Divine: "I think we should change our plans and get you over to the psych ward".
Friend: "Wait, whadoyou mean?!"
Divine: "Well, you just said everyone's mentally ill. That must include you too. As your friend, I care about you and think you should get checked out, perhaps be given some medication to try"
Friend: "No no, I didn't mean it like that. How dare you call me mentally ill. I'm not crazy!!"
Divine: "There there, that's what all mentally ill people say which is precisely why I think you may need help."
Friend: "We can't be friends any more".

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So I was out with my friends the other day and tried telling them I dont come out much cause of depression/ptsd. I know they didnt mean this offensively and just trying to make me not feel alone but they said everyone is mentally ill, (my parents have said this as well) Yes, everyone has problems and a lot of people have anxiety and mild depression. But most people arent in bed all the time or suicidal/non functioning from mental illness. Most people just dont get it..
From a medical POV everyone will be "depressed" somehow and once you say "yes, there are suicidal thoughts" you're mentally ill.

None of all this is an illness!

In most cases it's the reaction to personal circumstances and if they don't change "mental illness" becomes chronic over a long period of time and in many cases it intensifies bc the external circumstances don't change.
 
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My friend's Mum said that to her once- you're depressed, I'm depressed, the cat's depressed. Everyone is.

It's something I struggle with personally- if I'm honest. Am I depressed or, am I just lazy? Is it because I've got out of whack with sleeping patterns that I find it so hard to get up early? Am I tired because of poor diet? Am I unmotivated because I don't have a project on? Is it that I can't or, that I won't? (It's almost always: 'I won't.)

I think the trouble with very low mood and ideation or a lack of care for our well being means we have less motivation to take care of our needs, which only feeds in to making things worse.

I do sort of think we can find ourselves on the precipice with mild depression and, our next actions dictate whether we linger there or, crash further down. That's tricky because- in part, that's choice at that stage. Or, maybe it doesn't take that route. I truly don't know. I suppose if I'm honest, I worry for myself. But- for those with severe depression- did it suddenly just hit? Was it that severe, right from the start or, did it creep up?

For those who say- don't brush their teeth. Did they never brush them? Were there initial days where it was a struggle to do it but, it didn't feel the impossible task it feels now? What would have happened if they'd forced themselves to continue to do it? I'm not meaning to victim blame here. I'm seriously questioning how far I'll let myself slip! My hygiene is ok but, it's not as good as it used to be. Will I continue to keep up the minimum (because I fear getting ill,) or, will I let it slip further? Will I continue to have the choice or will it simply feel impossible one day?

Sometimes I wonder if it's to do with our support system. If we have no support or, next to no support- we may be too afraid to let things go completely. But then, some people still do. End up homeless etc. Still, sometimes I wonder if, having that buffer of support- shelter, warmth, food, money- does it give some people less reason to stop themselves depending on all those things? Or, does support make them less likely to be depressed to begin with?

But then- why is it some people stay at the mildly- moderately depressed stage- possibly for decades? I suppose it's possible I've been mildly depressed for 35 years! Why does the situation nose dive for others though? Just as a thing, it is curious.

I'd also agree with other members that, a lot of people have issues or- insecurities say. They can be debilitating too. I'd definitely say I am troubled by social anxiety and limerence. I have the potential for developing eating disorders too. I'd say I've been very borderline on a couple.

I'd agree that it's important for us to be conscious of those things. Partly in the hopes we can work on healing them or, preventing them. I'm extremely conscious not to develop limerence or an eating disorder again.

It's very difficult to guage and compare severity though. For instance- I'd probably say I was only mildly depressed. Things are a struggle certainly but, I can still force myself to do them. I can hold down a job. Certain things still bring me joy.

However- going out with a group of friends now? I wouldn't even consider it! Even a single friend, I'd likely try to make excuses. I don't think I could face that. I don't think I could conceal how I was generally in life. Just being out would be weird- I barely leave the house.

I imagine for you- it was still a struggle but, something made you push yourself to do it. So, it's tricky really. Is it that we can't do these things? Not exactly. It seems like more- some things are more difficult for us than others. Some days, they seem especially difficult. Some things we will do if we are having a better day, some things we feel like we'll never want to face. But, it's certainly hard to judge.

I suppose people need visual cues that someone is suffering. If they burst into tears, have a panic attack, collapse in pain- they'll likely pick up on them! I guess other more subtle things, they'll miss though.

I definitely think depression can affect our ability to function. I can understand why people end up quiting or, being fired from jobs because they can't cope with stressful situations, maybe can't concentrate or struggle to be reliable etc.

There again, the more subtle response is to pretty much get through the day but then, go home and sob. Utterly dread and feel sickened going in everyday. I suppose it's that I struggle with really. It's probably envy in a way. The whole- I'm not working because it stresses me out and harms my health. It's like- it harms most people's health! Even the happier ones pick up injuries from work. I suppose it's just envy that I didn't feel able to use that excuse! It comes down to- what do you consider bad? What's a reasonable get- out? I suppose ultimately, it's one that the government also conceeds and agrees to pay benefits for. I've picked up injuries though. Other friends have too. I suppose it is envy others haven't had to put themselves through that but then, being NEET long-term has its drawbacks too.

I think, so much comes into play though. What a person is dealing with or, is afraid of. What resources they have within themself to be able to cope. Seeing as we all have different things we struggle with and, we all have different levels of coping, it's maybe difficult for us to be able to totally empathise.

I think there's the: 'Things can't be that bad if you can still...' I suppose people looking at me will say: work. Me looking at others will say: socialise with friends, have a relationship. I think we take for granted the things we can manage in a way. I also think we all tend to compare too. You were doing it with your friends I suppose, as much as they were doing it to you. You may be right that your situation is so much worse than theirs but, how can you actually know for sure what they're dealing with?

I used to find myself at work thinking- Of course they've been so successful. They're not dealing with the social anxiety and, lack of confidence I am. Weirdly though, talking to them, I realised they were plagued by some of the same issues. So, was it that I'd allowed those things to become debilitating for me? Did they affect me more than them? It's so hard to gudge.

Ultimately though, we decide I suppose. You were physically able to go out with your friends. I was physically able to work alongside others. I guess from here, we decide whether our experiences were too unpleasant/ stressful to want to face that again. I guess that's the problem though, when things go badly. We can then build that situation up in our minds to make it that much harder to try and face it again.

Lastly, I haven't meant to belittle depression here. It's more a genuine curiosity for me. Plus, sorry for the essay length response! It's something I mull around a lot with in my mind about my own situation. I suppose a part of it is fear that it may become all around debilitating for me too. I kind of know it can't though so- will that be enough for me to maintain it at the level it's at?

I'm sorry your friends weren't more understanding though. I guess it's a backhanded compliment maybe. Perhaps they just miss you and, want to see more of you.
 
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I feel like mental illness has become trendy and people feel the need to pathologize perfectly normal feelings and behavior.

I have an autism diagnosis and I have straight up stopped telling people about it because virtually 100% of the time, it results in some asshole saying they think they might be a little autistic because they love nerd culture and hate people.
 
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