Do you believe in devine interventions/omens?

[legoshi]

I really don't know how to word this properly but today I stopped at a gas station I frequent often. The people usually running the register are these Arab individuals. I go into the gas station to get a drink and I hear the two men debating something and I can't make out what they are saying because I'm a distance off and I assumed they were speaking Arabic. Anyways I start hearing one guy talking about some religious stuff and about the Dead Sea scrolls and something Moses said. I pay it not mind and I go about browsing then the guy tells the other guy "I telling you Jesus is real, I seen him. I died for 18 minutes, hell is real" then when I get to the counter the guy that said all that, said I like your shirt (I had on a wrestling shirt with Booker T on it) I used to love wrestling as a kid. The guy he was telling all this too kind of looked annoyed and didn't believe any of it. And as I was leaving out I heard the guy tell him "bro I'm trying to tell you" i don't know if it was just a coincidence or if that was the universe speaking to me. I have been really debating about what's possibly after this and I have apprehension about the religious stuff and that little interaction has me rethinking things.

Just wondering if anybody else has had an experience like this while being so close to ending it. I want to just write it up to it being a coincidence but man i don't know. Would be messed up if I follow through with my plan and find out that truly was an omen.

 

[Darkover]

That experience you had sounds powerful, especially given what you've been going through with your internal debates about life, suffering, and what's after death. Moments like these can feel like something larger is at play, especially when the topic is so close to your current thoughts and struggles.

While I don't personally believe in divine interventions or omens in the traditional sense, I do think these experiences can be meaningful, even if not orchestrated by a higher power. The timing of that conversation could speak to something deep within you that's searching for answers or guidance. It could be a coincidence, but it could also reflect your mind being more open to these ideas right now, so you notice them more.

 

[Msvr]

There was/is a user on these forums that failed the SN method twice. The first time their dog rang the doorbell several times (!?) until the duplex neighbor called the police. The second time they were sitting in their car in the middle of nowhere, and a cop that happened to be driving by stopped to check on them. Both times they were saved in the hospital. If that's not Devine intervention then it surely doesn't exist.

 

[Hollowman]

No

 

[Davey40210]

There was/is a user on these forums that failed the SN method twice. The first time their dog rang the doorbell several times (!?) until the duplex neighbor called the police. The second time they were sitting in their car in the middle of nowhere, and a cop that happened to be driving by stopped to check on them. Both times they were saved in the hospital. If that's not Devine intervention then it surely doesn't exist.

Not sure why that's divine intervention. If anything, that's the devil intervening to elongate suffering. But that's just me.

 

[divinemistress36]

There was/is a user on these forums that failed the SN method twice. The first time their dog rang the doorbell several times (!?) until the duplex neighbor called the police. The second time they were sitting in their car in the middle of nowhere, and a cop that happened to be driving by stopped to check on them. Both times they were saved in the hospital. If that's not Devine intervention then it surely doesn't exist.

I was thinking this to but I didnt want to say anything since it could piss people off

 

[Forever Sleep]

I am fascinated by things like this. I come from a vaguely religious but more spiritual background. And, while I'm more on the side of atheism now, some stuff does still puzzle me.

I think with situations like the one you've described, I tend to latch onto them because the big decision making in life is exhausting and scary. Sometimes I probably do just want a clue as to which direction I should go in.

With regards to what he actually described, I'm not convinced that meant he actually went to hell. I dream I can fly. I know I can't! I don't see why NDE's aren't just very vivid nightmares for some. I think our brain gets flooded with all sorts of chemicals or hormones or whatever at the end. It's no wonder people see crazy stuff. That's not to say it isn't real. I don't know but, I don't accept NDE's as proof of an afterlife.

Kind of off topic here but I remember watching a TV programme on weird and amazing coincidences. The most bizarre one was- this guy was travelling away from home- I think on business. His wife or friend (can't remember the details) needed to call him at some point but, they dialed the wrong number. They happened to dial the number of a phone box but- just at that moment, he happened to be near it anyway and answered! Of all the crazy coincidences!

 

[leavingsoonx]

I really don't know how to word this properly but today I stopped at a gas station I frequent often. The people usually running the register are these Arab individuals. I go into the gas station to get a drink and I hear the two men debating something and I can't make out what they are saying because I'm a distance off and I assumed they were speaking Arabic. Anyways I start hearing one guy talking about some religious stuff and about the Dead Sea scrolls and something Moses said. I pay it not mind and I go about browsing then the guy tells the other guy "I telling you Jesus is real, I seen him. I died for 18 minutes, hell is real" then when I get to the counter the guy that said all that, said I like your shirt (I had on a wrestling shirt with Booker T on it) I used to love wrestling as a kid. The guy he was telling all this too kind of looked annoyed and didn't believe any of it. And as I was leaving out I heard the guy tell him "bro I'm trying to tell you" i don't know if it was just a coincidence or if that was the universe speaking to me. I have been really debating about what's possibly after this and I have apprehension about the religious stuff and that little interaction has me rethinking things.

Just wondering if anybody else has had an experience like this while being so close to ending it. I want to just write it up to it being a coincidence but man i don't know. Would be messed up if I follow through with my plan and find out that truly was an omen.

In my experience I say I want to hang myself and then everyone around me starts doing things like playing with ropes or talking about hanging yourself or suicide so it's obvious for me that if Jesus exists, he wants me to hang myself. Not sure what to believe in there

Your experiences sound kinda freaky and it would trip me out if that happened to me but maybe it was an omen for you to stay alive

 

[Chronicallyunwell]

No

Lol

No

The conciseness and sparsity of this comment made me laugh when literally nothing else does. so thank you.

 

[ixkitty]

Honestly, I don't know what I believe. I'm a Pagan that has no set idea what the afterlife entails. I was born to a religious family that attended church Sunday morning and afternoon, Wednesday evening, and any/all other events hosted. I was forced, and sometimes volunteered, to speak as a narrator to almost every event.

I've been threatened with Hell more times than I can remember if I tried to express something that made me uncomfortable or didn't like. So honestly, I believe I might be afraid of what could happen to me afterwards. I've failed soo many attempts but I don't know if it's Divine Intervention or not.

I will say a lot of my "I'll wait" moments entail my cat grabbing my attention or comforting me, my god baby wanting to see me, or my best friend randomly texting me something.

Sorry for the rant. TL;DR
I dunno if Divine Intervention exist

 

[MrShino]

Why not just give your life to Jesus if you have given up on it anyway? You have nothing to lose and if it is really true after all, your soul will be saved. Sounds like you can't go wrong with that in my opinion.

 

[ixkitty]

Why not give your life to Jesus if you have given up on it anyway? You have nothing to lose and if it is really true after all, your soul will be saved. Sounds like you can't go wrong with that in my opinion.

I appreciate the sentiment, but Christian God and I have a hate hate relationship

 

[Hollowman]

Why not just give your life to Jesus if you have given up on it anyway? You have nothing to lose and if it is really true after all, your soul will be saved. Sounds like you can't go wrong with that in my opinion.

How can anyone give their life away to a guy who's been dead for over 2000 years? What do you think happened to all the "souls" that lived before jesus?

 

[divinemistress36]

Honestly, I don't know what I believe. I'm a Pagan that has no set idea what the afterlife entails. I was born to a religious family that attended church Sunday morning and afternoon, Wednesday evening, and any/all other events hosted. I was forced, and sometimes volunteered, to speak as a narrator to almost every event.

I've been threatened with Hell more times than I can remember if I tried to express something that made me uncomfortable or didn't like. So honestly, I believe I might be afraid of what could happen to me afterwards. I've failed soo many attempts but I don't know if it's Divine Intervention or not.

I will say a lot of my "I'll wait" moments entail my cat grabbing my attention or comforting me, my god baby wanting to see me, or my best friend randomly texting me something.

Sorry for the rant. TL;DR
I dunno if Divine Intervention exist

Me either but I would like to believe that there is really a Lilith

 

[ixkitty]

Me either but I would like to believe that there is really a Lilith

I love the lore behind Lilith !

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

There's nothing. just coincidence. nothing has any meaning . everything is meaningless. only evolution and culture and society have programmed a humans brain to think any of this is important , meaningful or valuable

the only thing that matters to me is avoiding extreme pain , suffering torture, problems .avoiding anything bad and suicide asap getting to non-existence asap. that's it those are the only only only things that matter to me

I don't see a difference between a human , mouse, fly , robot, chatgpt, machine. would the universe care what happens to a lizard or bug that it would crawl to the right or left at this next moment, or what happens to a computer?

All life evolved from a cell. that cell was a machine. how can the descendants be different from the ancestor?

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"It is true, that which I have revealed to you; there is no God, no universe, no human race, no earthly life, no heaven, no hell. It is all a dream—a grotesque and foolish dream. Nothing exists but you. And you are but a thought—a vagrant thought, a useless thought, a homeless thought, wandering forlorn among the empty eternities!"
― Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger

 

[MrShino]

How can anyone give their life away to a guy who's been dead for over 2000 years? What do you think happened to all the "souls" that lived before jesus?

He's still alive. Dead for three days then rose again. The sacrifice for sins is both for people past, present and future. If they believed they were saved also. :)

 

[Hollowman]

He's still alive. Dead for three days then rose again. The sacrifice for sins is both for people past, present and future. If they believed they were saved also. :)

If you say so it must be so :)

 

[ThisIsMe1357]

I think there are only coincidences. We may prove otherwise in a million years, but for now everything seems to be just good or bad luck, however unusual. There are people who won lottery more than once and there are also people who got struck by a lightning more than once. I think it all just happened to happen.

 

[ihateearth]

No but try different things. Like a character turning a new page in a book you open new possibilities with different choices and trying different beliefs gods beings or whatever calls to you. Ask these things for help and see if they do.

If we try to kill ourselves does a magic voice say stop? No. This isn't a movie. You're in control. You just overhead a conversation in a gas station.

 

[justpathetic]

I think our subconscious picks up on things related to what we've been consciously thinking about. You might have heard dthat conversation at another time in your life and drought nothing about it. However if you've been thinking of mortality and afterlife you make more out of it.

 

[Golemishna]

Nope, I dont believe at all

 

[LunarLight]

No, not at all. I'm not religious.

 

[Morte]

I think we carry positive and negative karma, which affects situations around us and other people's moods too. Have you ever noticed when you're around a negative person things magically start to go wrong? or when things magically go wrong even when they shouldn't? this happens to me often.

And I observe that it happens to other people too, like a cousin of mine had every luck in his life, he is good looking, had a well-structured family and is now doing well financially. He already won the lottery once and at a party he won a lucky prize. Everything seems to work out with him, even when dont work for It. Except when he's hanging out with me, as if I took his luck away. It's not just him either, it's all the people around me. I really have very bad karma.

I don't know if this is the result of some divine intervention or maybe it has a logical explanation in physics we dont know yet.

 

[Peter Skellern]

I think there's more going on than we appreciate or understand. Ive had 3 instances in my life where someone (power) has interviened on my behalf. Its too far fetched to believe these were random chance. The timing and the pointedness was so glaringly obvious. So yes I do believe in devine interventions in terms of some power trying to assist us.

 

[HelloDarkness25]

I was able to buy SN online with astonishing ease (in 2023), from a website that no longer sells it (please don't ask for any names, I will not share it for the safety of that business and my own, even though they no longer sell it, as I said). Later I was also able to get antiemetics and benzos without much effort at all, and I don't even have a family doctor. Finally, I found myself locked in the situation with nothing but time and opportunity to do it.

So, if anything, it's a divine intervention that clearly shows me a direction in which I need to move. No signs, no revelations, nothing ever directing me towards life or its preservation.

Sorry if it's not what you hoped to hear, but it's true

 

[EvisceratedJester]

Divine interventions aren't a thing. People will talk about how "there's no way this could be just a coincidence", but it nearly always is. People tend to underestimate how many things in life just happen by pure chance rather than as a result of some sort of mystical intervention.

 

[Rose Cross]

It's saved my life so many times. But the remorse I carry now is so much worse. Yes I would have died, but the thing is I was ready to die, at peace, and it was my wish to go peacefully those times. Now I just carry trauma, pain, and will still end up dying again. Just years later.

 

[Peter Skellern]

Divine interventions aren't a thing. People will talk about how "there's no way this could be just a coincidence", but it nearly always is. People tend to underestimate how many things in life just happen by pure chance rather than as a result of some sort of mystical intervention.

I've detailed mine elsewhere. Three instances. The odds of them happening would be astronomically colossal. Indeed, divine intervention is more statistically likely than pure chance realistically. But you have to have an open mind of course. And many people don't want to believe. The idea for obvious reasons doesn't sit well with the average member.

 

[ijustwishtodie]

Nah, I don't believe in that type of stuff. I just think that sentience is stored within the brain and, once the brain shuts off, we shut off as well. I don't make it any more complicated than that