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So I recently saw a post about someone who tried the VSED (voluntarily stopped eating and drinking) except he kept drinking and only stopped eating. This went on for a few weeks and apparently he almost succeeded were it not for the fact he fainted in public (and almost died, but was given cpr). Apparently, the feeling was eventually "good" or at least not as painful as the beginning.

NOW, I know we are all strangers and we can make fake posts and stuff like that, and everyone is different. But geniunely, could this be a decent method? Just staying at home, being disciplined enough not to eat, just kind of chilling and drinking as usual, letting nature do its job to ctb. This would be something I'd consider if I decided to try ctb again (when things gets bad enough and I find myself living alone in a few years).

Also, I have tried the Shallow Water Blackout method by inhaling antitranspirant spray through a towel to decrease my oxygen and then drown painlessly. I was almost there but the SI is absolutely INSANE with that method. Would be perfect if not for the SI.

Back to the topic, what are your thoughts on starving?
 
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Absolutely could not do it. I'd be cranky af the entire time, that's not a peaceful death 😂
 
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I think it'd be a fine method if you have the willpower and time. Cutting water can be painful but if you have access to pain management, I hear it's not so bad. Completely up to you. I was considering doing this for myself but it's just too slow and I live with my family so it's hard to pull off without getting saved.
 
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Just my 2 cents worth on this, but as so many already know SI is beyond powerful and being able to "beat" it would be very hard if not impossible.

I have had 2 attempts, and at least with my experience, SI is so VERY strong. Now add in the fact that a person is extremely hungry, WOW is all I can say.

Back in 1974 when my "parents" dropped me off on a street curb with a bag of my clothes, no money, no food, nothing, this was in the morning time frame, by that evening all I could think about was finding food, even over shelter. Thank heavens a person that I got to know in high school, he was a few years younger, saw me took me to his parents' home where he lived also, and fed me. Even thou it has been over 50 years I can still remember what I ate, as I had had nothing in almost 24 hours.

You are family to/for me and all I want for you is for you to be happy with whatever you choose with anything period.

Lots of huge hugs, caring thoughts and the knowledge that you are VERY important.

Walter
 
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To me personally it sounds unbearable to try and succeed with, I really wish it's not so difficult to die, it's so cruel to me how I cannot just have the option to painlessly die in peace.
 
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Praestat_Mori

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No. Never.

Slow, unpleasant, hunger and thirst can become unbearable ... I love food.
 
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To me personally it sounds unbearable to try and succeed with, I really wish it's not so difficult to die, it's so cruel to me how I cannot just have the option to painlessly die in peace.
I was really excited about Canada's maid program. That would have solved alot of people's problems and it would be so much easier and way more peaceful. I hope that the united states one day will have it but I know since we are so business oriented here they want people to continue living so that they can contribute to society. So more than likely that is just a foolish dream of mine
 
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Starving is one of those methods where I've never seen a single, verified successfull attempt. Its just impossible with our biological urges and in todays world where someone will find you. The only way would be to do it in some forest, throw your phone away, chain yourself to a tree, throw the key away and...thats sounds fucking horrible. Thats torture
 
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Starving is one of those methods where I've never seen a single, verified successfull attempt. Its just impossible with our biological urges and in todays world where someone will find you. The only way would be to do it in some forest, throw your phone away, chain yourself to a tree, throw the key away and...thats sounds fucking horrible. Thats torture
Bobby Sands did it in a British prison in 1980.
 
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For me it sounds painful, and you need a lot of will power to resist the biological urges, especially thirst
It can be even harder if you are young and healthy.

I'm also young and healthy, but I do take a lot of meds for mental health issues and I forgot to eat a day (because I barely have any energy left even for eating) and I got really dizzy after 24 hours lol
 
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Ive starved before and I can confirm it does get somewhat easier the longer you starve. That being said it is something you have to be conscious of because there were several times i almost started eating automatically without even thinking about it.
 
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willitpass

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As an anorexic, drinking but not eating will likely take weeks-months in a healthy person. The body can sustain itself surprisingly long when well hydrated, even if malnourished.

I and many others here have attempted VSED. The odds are about 0 for you to succeed even if you go completely without anything. You can think you have the willpower, but the body will become primitive. Before you know it it's been several days and without a chance to stop yourself you've chugged a gallon of water and eaten anything you could get your hands on. The body is made to not do that. Even if you go into the woods you'd likely find yourself drinking out of streams and creeks out of desperation. You might feel confident for the first several days, but eventually nature will take over. There are no confirmed successful cases of VSED on here.
 
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Just my 2 cents worth on this, but as so many already know SI is beyond powerful and being able to "beat" it would be very hard if not impossible.

I have had 2 attempts, and at least with my experience, SI is so VERY strong. Now add in the fact that a person is extremely hungry, WOW is all I can say.

Back in 1974 when my "parents" dropped me off on a street curb with a bag of my clothes, no money, no food, nothing, this was in the morning time frame, by that evening all I could think about was finding food, even over shelter. Thank heavens a person that I got to know in high school, he was a few years younger, saw me took me to his parents' home where he lived also, and fed me. Even thou it has been over 50 years I can still remember what I ate, as I had had nothing in almost 24 hours.

You are family to/for me and all I want for you is for you to be happy with whatever you choose with anything period.

Lots of huge hugs, caring thoughts and the knowledge that you are VERY important.

Walter
Thanks for always throwing in the most thoughtful posts. Much love.

OP, wishing you the peace you seek <3 PMs open, I have had an ED for 15+ years so VSED is sometimes just my life. PMs open.
 
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As someone who was anorexic in their teens, once you go a couple of days without eating, the hunger and pain does go away (at least in my experience). But you do get very weak and light-headed pretty quickly, but probably depends on your metabolism, how much you weigh, etc. I do think that SI would make it very difficult though, because as you get physically weaker your will also gets weaker, not to mention you start not being able to think clearly, so you might binge something impulsively while having every intention starve and die.

It doesn't seem like a great idea to me, personally
 
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I just went through cold turkey 6mg for 20 years klonopin and gabapentin withdrawal and didn't eat for 12 days. I slept like a baby cuz my body was dying, but my kidneys and organs ached. I lost so much weight so fast, but without being in withdrawal and being virtually anorexic, it's far too long and painful and there are too many ways out. You're better off hiking in the desert on a hot day with no water, you'll die in one day.

Unless you're ghandi or a dude in isolation in guantanamo I dont think it's possible. And if you go far enough you'll lose bone and muscle you'll never get back. Not a good plan. I still haven't fully gained the weight back from that withdrawal 40 days later.
 
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I believe it takes about 40 days to starve yourself which probably depends on your weight, but if your obese it could probably take 60+ days.
 
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mrtime87

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So I recently saw a post about someone who tried the VSED (voluntarily stopped eating and drinking) except he kept drinking and only stopped eating. This went on for a few weeks and apparently he almost succeeded were it not for the fact he fainted in public (and almost died, but was given cpr). Apparently, the feeling was eventually "good" or at least not as painful as the beginning.

NOW, I know we are all strangers and we can make fake posts and stuff like that, and everyone is different. But geniunely, could this be a decent method? Just staying at home, being disciplined enough not to eat, just kind of chilling and drinking as usual, letting nature do its job to ctb. This would be something I'd consider if I decided to try ctb again (when things gets bad enough and I find myself living alone in a few years).

Also, I have tried the Shallow Water Blackout method by inhaling antitranspirant spray through a towel to decrease my oxygen and then drown painlessly. I was almost there but the SI is absolutely INSANE with that method. Would be perfect if not for the SI.

Back to the topic, what are your thoughts on starving?
I've made it to a day and a half with no food or water. All I thought about was why I should eat.

On paper it sounds like the perfect way to end ones life. No gun, no breaking the law with illegal substances, just stop eating and slowly stay in bed.

I practice, you'll just stare at a wall and start hallucinating about food. You'll see glasses of water and have dreams about eating, only to wake and fight the urge to eat.

At least I did, and that was for one day.

I know people like Bobby Sands was able, but he must have been very motivated by the political implications of his hunger strike.

Having been in prison myself, I tried a hunger strike and was able to skip one meal. It was too harrowing to go without food, but then again, Mr. Sands was in better health than I was.

I was probably weighing 200 lbs, whereas he was barely 155 lbs. Less weight to lose and probably just wasn't that big of an eater.

The bigger you are, the harder it is because you have more weight to lose. You'll have to go longer without food, and honestly, you'll have to be in good health with a healthy place to lay.

I still think about starving myself to death, but it's almost impossible when I have a doctor's appointment or family get together. You would have to tell everyone that you're not eating or just stay home, and that will raise eyebrows with the medical community.

If you did go thru with it, you would end up in a coma, and if someone found your body, they would call an ambulance. I'm not sure how it works where you live, but you would need a living will stating not to be resuscitated, and the ambulance would need to know this, because legally they would have to do everything in their disposal to keep you alive.

It sounds appealing but outside the Irish hunger strike, I've never heard of anyone doing it besides the terminally ill and elderly people whose bodies were already shutting down. This is how my grandmother died. She was 82 in a nursing home and with dementia, basically locked in her body and unable to to move. She simply stopped eating and drinking, and passed within four days.

The only other person I know that starved to death was Chris McCandless of Into the Wild fame, and his was pretty harrowing. He was desperate and immobile in the Alaskan wilderness, sleeping in an abandoned school bus with a heater. He must have been hallucinating some dark thoughts and probably seeing demons by that point.

It's too bad, because it does seem like the perfect way to go when compared to shooting yourself or hanging yourself. But alas, it's not fun, and I imagine even Bobby Sands, who eventually was placed on an IV, probably wasn't having a good time. Watch the movie Hunger for the depiction, it's brutal.

Besides this, you won't sleep. I tried a hunger strike in a mental hospital and made it two meals, and was pacing the whole time. I looked like an asshole and made A lot of enemies with the kitchen staff. Trying to kill yourself when everyone else is trying to get better is definitely looked down upon.

That's my two cents anyway, but hopefully your attempt will go better.
 
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this is how animals kill themselves and i feel like it's possibly some biological thingy ykwim like if youre depressed enough youll just starve to death or some shit
 
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this is how animals kill themselves and i feel like it's possibly some biological thingy ykwim like if youre depressed enough youll just starve to death or some shit
Agree. One of my pets died that way. She completely refused to eat and drink. Not much we could do.
I've made it to a day and a half with no food or water. All I thought about was why I should eat.

On paper it sounds like the perfect way to end ones life. No gun, no breaking the law with illegal substances, just stop eating and slowly stay in bed.

I practice, you'll just stare at a wall and start hallucinating about food. You'll see glasses of water and have dreams about eating, only to wake and fight the urge to eat.

At least I did, and that was for one day.

I know people like Bobby Sands was able, but he must have been very motivated by the political implications of his hunger strike.

Having been in prison myself, I tried a hunger strike and was able to skip one meal. It was too harrowing to go without food, but then again, Mr. Sands was in better health than I was.

I was probably weighing 200 lbs, whereas he was barely 155 lbs. Less weight to lose and probably just wasn't that big of an eater.

The bigger you are, the harder it is because you have more weight to lose. You'll have to go longer without food, and honestly, you'll have to be in good health with a healthy place to lay.

I still think about starving myself to death, but it's almost impossible when I have a doctor's appointment or family get together. You would have to tell everyone that you're not eating or just stay home, and that will raise eyebrows with the medical community.

If you did go thru with it, you would end up in a coma, and if someone found your body, they would call an ambulance. I'm not sure how it works where you live, but you would need a living will stating not to be resuscitated, and the ambulance would need to know this, because legally they would have to do everything in their disposal to keep you alive.

It sounds appealing but outside the Irish hunger strike, I've never heard of anyone doing it besides the terminally ill and elderly people whose bodies were already shutting down. This is how my grandmother died. She was 82 in a nursing home and with dementia, basically locked in her body and unable to to move. She simply stopped eating and drinking, and passed within four days.

The only other person I know that starved to death was Chris McCandless of Into the Wild fame, and his was pretty harrowing. He was desperate and immobile in the Alaskan wilderness, sleeping in an abandoned school bus with a heater. He must have been hallucinating some dark thoughts and probably seeing demons by that point.

It's too bad, because it does seem like the perfect way to go when compared to shooting yourself or hanging yourself. But alas, it's not fun, and I imagine even Bobby Sands, who eventually was placed on an IV, probably wasn't having a good time. Watch the movie Hunger for the depiction, it's brutal.

Besides this, you won't sleep. I tried a hunger strike in a mental hospital and made it two meals, and was pacing the whole time. I looked like an asshole and made A lot of enemies with the kitchen staff. Trying to kill yourself when everyone else is trying to get better is definitely looked down upon.

That's my two cents anyway, but hopefully your attempt will go better.
Thanks a lot for the info. I will definitely revisit this method in a few years. I'll try to sort things out for now.
 

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