Cyanide inside capsule

[milorddd]

Hi there, is there anyone considering cyanide putting it in a capsule? so we don't need to taste the awful taste of cyanide?
as its more potent and fast acting I'm still considering Cyanide as my choice

 

[Wayfaerer]

I was interested in one just so that I can ctb at any moment in case I am hospitalized against my will.

 

[milorddd]

I was interested in one just so that I can ctb at any moment in case I am hospitalized against my will.

How many pills do you think will sufficient? not sure if this gonna work. I'm trying to put it inside a gelatin capsule of 00 size

 

[MissNietzsche]

How many pills do you think will sufficient? not sure if this gonna work. I'm trying to put it inside a gelatin capsule of 00 size

Just measure out how many grams you need and place it all in pills.

 

[milorddd]

Just measure out how many grams you need and place it all in pills.

hmmm one capsule can hold around 600 gm ish of them roughly. Its like 2 times the LD of cyanide. Do you think its enough? because I have problem swallowing things. Don't think my throat can drink the capsule twice

 

[Heart of Ice]

hmmm one capsule can hold around 600 gm ish of them roughly. Its like 2 times the LD of cyanide. Do you think its enough? because I have problem swallowing things. Don't think my throat can drink the capsule twice

Derek Humphry says that 1 gram of potassium cyanide will be enough.

 

[Pan]

I find myself envying those who have managed to obtain cyanide; death, apparently, is instantaneous. I have found sites selling it, but question their legitimacy.

 

[NitriteAnatomy]

Capsule would be slightly prolonged, depending on how harsh your stomach acid is. You'd have to wait until the capsule's seal is breached by the acid, before the cyanide can take effect. That being said, about half a gram is considered lethal. Anything above that is certainly overkill.

 

[ebt88]

I'm planning using this method too. I've tested swallowing 4 pills in two drinks is quite easy and it carries between 1g and 2g of KCN.

Do you have any advice on additional preparation please? I plan to fast 2 days and take some antiemetic some time before the pills.

 

[aminend]

I'm planning using this method too. I've tested swallowing 4 pills in two drinks is quite easy and it carries between 1g and 2g of KCN.

Do you have any advice on additional preparation please? I plan to fast 2 days and take some antiemetic some time before the pills.

My plan is like u. I need more advise too. My cyanide is 100g labratoral potassium cyanide with more than 97% pureity. How is urs?
Is there any one expert about potassium cyanide in froum. This is my method. Powder or capsule? Which of them is better
Is there any one expert about potassium cyanide in froum. This is my method. Powder or capsule? Which of them is better

 

[Jumper Geo]

I was looking at cyanide to ctb but it's to hard to get in the UK but I was looking at different ways to swallow SN without tasting it or using capsules, you may be interested, link below.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...n-easy-and-cheap-solution-not-capsules.36248/

Cheers

Geo

 

[aminend]

I was looking at cyanide to ctb but it's to hard to get in the UK but I was looking at different ways to swallow SN without tasting it or using capsules, you may be interested, link below.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...n-easy-and-cheap-solution-not-capsules.36248/

Cheers

Geo

How is the certainty of SN to die. And how much in geram must be ingested ?
I saw many successiful case reports about cyanid suicide. But there is not any report about SN. Is that really fatal?

 

[Jumper Geo]

Check Wiki there are reports on there someone used capsules and another person plugged it.

Cheers

Geo

 

[Aap]

Why would you use SN if you have CN? Don't plug either, and, obviously, don't take both.

 

[ebt88]

Here it is someone using it in a glass of water



They say this method is faster as the cyanide water moves faster through the body there is the taste issue.

About putting it in pills it'll be good some further advice though i think with fasting (to maximize absorption) and an emetic (to prevent vomiting) we should be ok. As I said I weighted 4 big capsules are about 2g so it would be just two drinks and go to sleep.

 

[Aap]

To dispel any misinformation, an acidic drink, such as lemonade will expedite the process, but you must use capsules and not mix it with the drink. Capsules do not last long in a liquid.

 

[aminend]

Why would you use SN if you have CN? Don't plug either, and, obviously, don't take both.

I'll use cyanide.
Can I use aluminum phosphate pill (rice pill) after cyanide to be sure 100%?

 

[ebt88]

Without being an expert I'd say better not to mix who knows how those two would interact. Better take more kcn. In fact they say the more you take the more acute and fast the effect of kcn would be. Though drinking too much cyanide water might cause vomit due to throat burning

 

[aminend]

Without being an expert I'd say better not to mix who knows how those two would interact. Better take more kcn. In fact they say the more you take the more acute and fast the effect of kcn would be. Though drinking too much cyanide water might cause vomit due to throat burning

Yes. I don't know theirs reaction together. I dont use both.
First I thought to exit bag and I bought its things, but I feared from its failure. I think that I can combine potassium cyanide by exit bag

 

[ebt88]

Here is an extract from other website (fringe.davesource.com/Fringe/Information/Suicide_FAQ.html#Cyanide)



Cyanide (HCN, KCN)
Dosage: 50 mg Hydrogen Cyanide gas, 200-300 mg Cyanide salts
Time: seconds for HC, minutes Cs (empty stomach) hours (full s)
Available: very difficult to get hold of
Certainty: very certain
Notes: It helps to have an empty stomach (since the salts react
with the stomach acids to form H.C.). A full stomach can delay death
for up to four hours with the salts. Antidotes to cyanide poisoning
exist, but they have serious side effects. What you can do, is instead
of taking the salts directly, drop 500mg or so into a strong acid,
and inhale the fumes. This will be pure Hydrogen Cyanide, and you
should die in 10 to 20 seconds.
[3]:
"Hydrocyanic acid is one of the most poisonous substances known; the
inhalation of its fumes in high concentration will cause almost
immediate death. Hydrogen cyanide acts by preventing the normal
process of tissue oxidation and paralyzing the respiratory center in
the brain. Most of the accidental cases are due to inhaling the fumes
during a fumigating process. In the pure state it kills with great
rapidity. Crystalline cyanides, such as potassium or sodium cyanide
are equally poisonous, since they interact with the hydrochloric acid
in the stomach to liberate hydrocyanic acid. This poison has been used
for both homicide and suicide; in recent history, a number of European
political figures carried vials of cyanide salt for emergency
self-destruction and some used them. Death resulted from amounts of
only a fraction of a gram. A concentration of 1 part in 500 of
hydrogen cyanide gas is fatal. Allowable working concentration in most
of the United States is 20 ppm. Two and one-half grains of liquid acid
has killed. The acid acts fatally in about 15 minutes. The cyanide
salts kill in several hours. The average dose of solution is 0.1 cc.
[1], DGHS talking about KCN]:
on an empty stomach, take a small glass of cold tap water. (Not
mineral water nor any sort of juice or soda water because of it's
acidity). Stir 1 -> 1.5 grammes of KCN into the water. More than that
causes irritation to the throat. Wait 5 minutes to dissolve. It should
be drunk within several hours. Consciousness will be lost in about a
minute. Death will follow 15 -> 45 minutes later.

 

[Darksektori]

I thought Cyanide worked much faster then that, like a few seconds

 

[aminend]

As I read in reall cases the person will be unconscious in a short time, 2_5min after first symptoms not after ingestion, and after that death under 45 mins

 

[Darksektori]

The suicide pills that were used in ww2 the thin glass L Pills you bit down on that had "Potassium Cyanide" those worked really fast

 

[Aap]

If you are referring to the nazis, those were not KCN; those contained a concentrated aqueous solution of HCN. CN salts must be converted to HCN (often in the stomach).

 

[Darksektori]

If you are referring to the nazis, those were not KCN; those contained a concentrated aqueous solution of HCN. CN salts must be converted to HCN (often in the stomach).

I stand corrected but still those cause unconsciousness in seconds though didn't they that's why the Nazis chose that way It was A. Easy to conceal B. All you needed to do was bite down on the ampeole that's it. C. You could also swallow the ampeole and it will safley pass through the body. Granted you'll have to retrieve it later which wouldn't be pretty and probably not very pleasant putting back in your mouth.

Why would people swallow it?, well since you brought up the Nazis, some did it to make the ampeole virtually impossible to find, because in prison sometimes the guards would sometimes inspect prisoner's mouths during random searches. Goring during the Nuremberg trials had one concealed in an a fountain pen for example.
Anyway bottom line, it was considered effective, fast, painless, and easy to hide.

 

[Aap]

Some of what you wrote is true, some based on fiction rather than reality. Try to find some more original sources for the death of Heinrich himler. His death was described as lasting around 10 minutes, ending with him convulsing on the floor. Likewise, I know you have seen the video of the individual who took a cyanide salt in court. Finally, some US gas chamber executions took around 30 minutes and were the antithesis of peaceful. For that matter, read accounts of the gas chambers used in WW2.

It's not that cyanide can't be peaceful and fast, it is the fact it simply is not always so. Deaths can be prolonged and painful. I realize media often portray cyanide as an "off switch" for life. It's not. There are faster, more toxic, and/or more peaceful compounds out there. I'm not suggesting cyanide is a "bad" way to go; I am suggesting there are many better ways. Inert gas is a simple example that is painless and results in reliable and rapid incapacitation in seconds. It's so fast and unassuming, pilots have to be trained to even recognize the effects of hypoxia.

 

[Living sucks]

How is the certainty of SN to die. And how much in geram must be ingested ?
I saw many successiful case reports about cyanid suicide. But there is not any report about SN. Is that really fatal?

There are many reports of SN consumption. It is fatal when followed correctly and not saved. I will link them below, some are even documented and confirmed.

@aminend you have several lethal methods at your disposal.

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...nd-experiences-information-google-docs.29900/

 

[ebt88]

I agree there is a chance of Cyanide involving some pain, but there is almost no chance of surviving with side effects and it's extremely easy to execute, just 1g will do (either pill or drink, take more faster and more intense effects). These two factors make it very interesting to me as opposed to other methods. Initially I was looking into inert gas but to me it turned out to be too cumbersome

 

[Midgardsorm]

If you don't mind me asking. How did you manage to get cyanide?

 

[ebt88]

I bought it from a local chemical supplier along with other items to look less suspicious. It's not regulated here