Method Cyanide availability

[L'absent]

Is cyanide still available today? If yes, how long does it take to work?

 

[sevennn]

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[Unleashtherain]

Very interested as well. I know when you attempt to search nothing pops up.

 

[tbh2023]

Is cyanide still available today? If yes, how long does it take to work?

I don't think it's available in America. Maybe in Africa or other countries, but it's very painful.

 

[Intoxicated]

Is cyanide still available today? If yes, how long does it take to work?

Reagents that can produce cyanides are commonly more easy to obtain than cyanides. For example, potassium ferrocyanide, potassium ferricyanide and sulfuric acid are relatively easy to purchase. If you obtain 50% sulfuric acid and potassium ferricyanide, you can produce a mixture of CO and HCN - two highly poisonous gases which have a synergistic effect when combined together. Inhaling a high-concentrated mixture of CO and HCN is likely to produce unconsciousness in a few seconds after a single breath, with death coming in 1 - 3 minutes.

Mixing potassium ferricyanide with 36-38% sulfuric acid for lead-acid batteries should work too, but the yield would contain a much less percent of CO while HCN would prevail

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[mnguy]

Is cyanide still available today? If yes, how long does it take to work?

what about antifreeze does anyone use that anymore ....I know it shuts down your organs and painful

 

[L'absent]

Reagents that can produce cyanides are commonly more easy to obtain than cyanides. For example, potassium ferrocyanide, potassium ferricyanide and sulfuric acid are relatively easy to purchase. If you obtain 50% sulfuric acid and potassium ferricyanide, you can produce a mixture of CO and HCN - two highly poisonous gases which have a synergistic effect when combined together. Inhaling a high-concentrated mixture of CO and HCN is likely to produce unconsciousness in a few seconds after a single breath, with death coming in 1 - 3 minutes.

Mixing potassium ferricyanide with 36-38% sulfuric acid for lead-acid batteries should work too, but the yield would contain a much less percent of CO while HCN would prevail

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Unfortunately I can't translate from that page. Is there a simple recipe? I don't want it to take effect right away because I would have to shoot myself first and if I didn't die with the shot the cyanide would take care of it. I read somewhere that some types of cyanide take minutes to show symptoms and kill you.

 

[babouflo201223]

Les réactifs qui peuvent produire des cyanures sont généralement plus faciles à obtenir que les cyanures. Par exemple, le ferrocyanure de potassium, le ferricyanure de potassium et l'acide sulfurique sont relativement faciles à acheter. Si vous obtenez de l'acide sulfurique à 50 % et du ferricyanure de potassium, vous pouvez produire un mélange de CO et de HCN, deux gaz extrêmement toxiques qui ont un effet synergique lorsqu'ils sont combinés. L'inhalation d'un mélange hautement concentré de CO et de HCN est susceptible de provoquer une perte de connaissance en quelques secondes après une seule respiration, et la mort survenant en 1 à 3 minutes.

Le mélange de ferricyanure de potassium avec 36-38 % d'acide sulfurique pour les batteries plomb-acide devrait également fonctionner, mais le rendement contiendrait un pourcentage beaucoup plus faible de CO tandis que le HCN prévaudrait

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But breathing HCN would be very painful, it would deeply burn your nose, mouth, throat, lungs. Or I'm wrong ?

 

[MatrixPrisoner]

Not sure if this help, but this guy almost croaked from eating only 3 cherry pits worth of cyanide.

A man ate three cherry pits. Then he got cyanide poisoning and almost died - National | Globalnews.ca

"If something was that severe you'd think it'd be on the packaging."

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[eashanm]

Cyanide kills within minutes and should have 95%+ lethality.

 

[Intoxicated]

Is there a simple recipe?

I can't recall any readily available simple recipes for CTB using ferrocyanides/ferrycianides. HCN, especially combined with CO is a very dangerous thing that can injure or kill other people, so this is not a method for dummies, you should clearly understand how these chemicals work to minimize the risks of casual damage/fatalities.

I don't want it to take effect right away because I would have to shoot myself first and if I didn't die with the shot the cyanide would take care of it. I read somewhere that some types of cyanide take minutes to show symptoms and kill you.

It's possible to get KCN from potassium ferrocyanide, but the methods aren't easy and require following some precautions.

But breathing HCN would be very painful, it would deeply burn your nose, mouth, throat, lungs.

Where does that information come from? I haven't seen HCN described as an aggressive chemical compound or as having a pungent/acrid/sharp odor, unlike such substances as CNCl (cyanogen chloride), NH3 (ammonia), Cl2 (chlorine), HCl (hydrogen chloride), or CH3COOH (acetic acid), most of which I've inhaled (except CNCl) and can confirm that they're very irritating.

 

[babouflo201223]

Je ne me souviens d'aucune recette simple et facilement disponible pour le CTB à base de ferrocyanures/ferrycianures. Le HCN, en particulier combiné au CO, est une substance très dangereuse qui peut blesser ou tuer d'autres personnes. Ce n'est donc pas une méthode pour les nuls. Vous devez clairement comprendre comment ces produits chimiques fonctionnent pour minimiser les risques de dommages/décès occasionnels.

Il est possible d'obtenir du KCN à partir du ferrocyanure de potassium, mais les méthodes ne sont pas faciles et nécessitent de suivre certaines précautions.

D'où vient cette information ? Je n'ai jamais vu le HCN décrit comme un composé chimique agressif ou comme ayant une odeur piquante/âcre/amère, contrairement à des substances telles que le CNCl (chlorure de cyanogène), le NH3 (ammoniac), le Cl2 (chlore), le HCl (chlorure d'hydrogène) ou le CH3COOH (acide acétique), dont j'ai inhalé la plupart (sauf le CNCl) et je peux confirmer qu'ils sont très irritants.

Ok, it was a supposition, I was certainly wrong.

 

[kat6]

Where does that information come from? I haven't seen HCN described as an aggressive chemical compound or as having a pungent/acrid/sharp odor, unlike such substances as CNCl (cyanogen chloride), NH3 (ammonia), Cl2 (chlorine), HCl (hydrogen chloride), or CH3COOH (acetic acid), most of which I've inhaled (except CNCl) and can confirm that they're very irritating.

Have you ever inhaled any amount of HCN? If so, could you smell it? I find it fascinating that not everyone can smell it, and I would love to know if I can.

 

[Intoxicated]

Have you ever inhaled any amount of HCN? If so, could you smell it?

I might inhale small doses of HCN from burned organic substances, but I didn't ever inhale this gas in amounts that could be perceivable. In case of CTB through poisoning with a highly toxic gas, some distinctive smell could be helpful for the first responders, so they could notice the threat and take measures to protect themselves from exposure to high concentrations of the gas. H2S seems to be better than HCN in this regard. I inhaled H2S in perceivable concentrations, and it didn't seem to be too bad for me. Its odor resembles the smell of rotten eggs, but real rotten eggs smell much worse.

 

[eashanm]

I've smelled both KCN & HCN

 

[Dai]

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[BlooBerryBanjo3000]

Reagents that can produce cyanides are commonly more easy to obtain than cyanides. For example, potassium ferrocyanide, potassium ferricyanide and sulfuric acid are relatively easy to purchase. If you obtain 50% sulfuric acid and potassium ferricyanide, you can produce a mixture of CO and HCN - two highly poisonous gases which have a synergistic effect when combined together. Inhaling a high-concentrated mixture of CO and HCN is likely to produce unconsciousness in a few seconds after a single breath, with death coming in 1 - 3 minutes.

Mixing potassium ferricyanide with 36-38% sulfuric acid for lead-acid batteries should work too, but the yield would contain a much less percent of CO while HCN would prevail

Journal of the Chemical Society. Transactions 1924-06: Vol 125 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Journal of the Chemical Society. Transactions 1924-06: Volume 125.Digitized from IA1641909-01.Previous issue:...

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Where would you be able to purchase potassium ferricyanide and 50% sulfuric acid?

 

[hencjjsjahhaj]

@Intoxicated can you describe the creation of HCN or KCN from Potassium Ferricyanide and Sulphuric Acid, can Hydrochloric Acid be used instead and Ferrocyanides as well as Thiocyanates, of Sodium as well perhaps, I can get all of this but ChatGPT says the reaction requires much heating etc... Is it possible to do without heating?

 

[L'absent]

From what I remember from chemistry lessons, the procedure for obtaining solid cyanides is highly dangerous if not carried out in controlled environments with appropriate equipment and specific safety systems. Handling cyanide compounds carries the risk of exposure to lethal gases and accidental contamination, and without proper precautions, it can be extremely toxic even for those who handle it indirectly. For this reason, it seems absolutely impossible for a private individual to perform this process without incurring enormous risks to their own life and that of others. The same applies to hydrogen cyanide (HCN), which is extremely volatile and lethal even in very low concentrations, so I might be mistaken, but this is what I remember.
So I believe that the procedure must be described in detail step by step and not leaving out any type of detail otherwise the risks are enormous and in any case the risk is still there. And without forgetting all the protection tools.