CO method - questions

[do0mer]

Hello, I'm thinking of using the CO method for my suicide. I'm mostly using this thread (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/shubhs-co-guide-aka-freedom-from-cruel-existance-fce.224219/), but i still have some questions:

1) how to actually burn the charcoal?
- Guide says to just use a blowtorch on the charcoal pieces until they are red and glowing but would that be enough? It seems to me that the charcoal would just go out too quickly without producing a significant amount of CO that way

2) how to make sure the charcoal burns incompletely? (aka - how to limit the air supply)
- Assuming i heat up the coal pieces with the blowtorch until they are red and glowing (and they don't go out too quickly) should i do anything to limit the air supply aside from
simply closing my bathroom door? (it has no windows, but does have ventilation which i can tape over and the room is about 10.5m³ big). I thought of putting some kind of cover on the grill which i would be using and sealing it with tape but i think that would just cause the coal to go out even quicker

3) if i burn charcoal incompletely it will also release a lot of smoke - it that a problem while attempting?
- Here I'm mostly asking about my SI, would it be difficult to consciously enter a room filled with smoke? If its possible id prefer to limit the amount of smoke in case i survive (as not to damage the room i will be attempting in) If i wanted to prevent the room from being damaged would lining walls with plastic sheeting be a good idea?

4) According to my calculations (and i suck at math) I'd need about 1.5 KG of coal for a 10.5m³ room, is that correct?

 

[meatballlover]

1) just like you would in a regular bbq. Blowtorch is possible of course. Assuming you are as clueless in grilling as me then go for disposable bbqs (although better for smaller spaces)
2) tape is a good start. Just make sure to tape over everything as much as possible is what i would tell you. Any gaps no matter how small thats about it (not the grill itself tho)
3) yes it is a problem. Charcoal smoulders like crazy at first. Burn it for 30 minutes, let rest and cool down for 90 minutes and only then you can consider another steps. This makes the charcoal cooler, stop producing smoke and possibly prevent production of CO2 which is unwanted.
4) That is like the minimum yes. Personally i would atleast triple that amount just to be safe. Personally i am gonna use 2-2.5 kg of charcoal in a 4 cubic meters tent

I can tell you have done a bit of research but imo not enough.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Charcoal method advice

Hi, I somehow came across this site after some furious google searching over the weekend. After trying and failing other methods over the past month I came across back to the idea of carbon monoxide and decided to dig further into charcoal burning, of which there are plenty discussions on this...

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4) According to my calculations (and i suck at math) I'd need about 1.5 KG of coal for a 10.5m³ room, is that correct?

The guides say 0.135kg/m³ so 1.5kg is correct but I'd double or triple that amount , maybe 5kg to be really on the safe side.

Also, CO is a little lighter than air.

 

[Liebestod]

1. It's really up to you, you could use a grill, a chimney starter, or kitchen utensils like cast iron skillets, hell you can even use a fire pit.
2. Like another person said use tape.
3. Yes it will release smoke but in particular carbon dioxide which causes a suffocation sensation, so if you don't want that I suggest you let the charcoal burn inside until it reaches peak concentration (10,000+ ppm is recommended) and then go inside so you don't have to experience the symptoms and so you can lose consciousness very quickly.
4. If I were you I'd go overkill, double, triple, or even quadruple it. I'm doing 16 lbs (7.257kg)

 

[kurgan]

Hello, I'm thinking of using the CO method for my suicide. I'm mostly using this thread (https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/shubhs-co-guide-aka-freedom-from-cruel-existance-fce.224219/), but i still have some questions:

1) how to actually burn the charcoal?
- Guide says to just use a blowtorch on the charcoal pieces until they are red and glowing but would that be enough? It seems to me that the charcoal would just go out too quickly without producing a significant amount of CO that way

2) how to make sure the charcoal burns incompletely? (aka - how to limit the air supply)
- Assuming i heat up the coal pieces with the blowtorch until they are red and glowing (and they don't go out too quickly) should i do anything to limit the air supply aside from
simply closing my bathroom door? (it has no windows, but does have ventilation which i can tape over and the room is about 10.5m³ big). I thought of putting some kind of cover on the grill which i would be using and sealing it with tape but i think that would just cause the coal to go out even quicker

3) if i burn charcoal incompletely it will also release a lot of smoke - it that a problem while attempting?
- Here I'm mostly asking about my SI, would it be difficult to consciously enter a room filled with smoke? If its possible id prefer to limit the amount of smoke in case i survive (as not to damage the room i will be attempting in) If i wanted to prevent the room from being damaged would lining walls with plastic sheeting be a good idea?

4) According to my calculations (and i suck at math) I'd need about 1.5 KG of coal for a 10.5m³ room, is that correct?

If you have no experience and want to go down the charcoal route, I'd highly recommend learning the process of it all first. Whether it be in your garden or out in the sticks, get out there with some food, a grill and coal, and get familiar with it. Watch how the coal behaves over time. Do that as many times as you need until you get confident with it.

 

[do0mer]

3) yes it is a problem. Charcoal smoulders like crazy at first. Burn it for 30 minutes, let rest and cool down for 90 minutes and only then you can consider another steps. This makes the charcoal cooler, stop producing smoke and possibly prevent production of CO2 which is unwanted.

Why should i let it cool down for 90 minutes? Wouldn't the charcoal completely stop emitting CO after that much time?
Shubh's CO guide says to place the charcoal inside of the room while they're red and glowing

 

[meatballlover]

Why should i let it cool down for 90 minutes? Wouldn't the charcoal completely stop emitting CO after that much time?
Shubh's CO guide says to place the charcoal inside of the room while they're red and glowing

It still emmits CO after 90 minutes, hell theoretically after 5 hours as well. Cooling it down is mainly preventing fire hazard and limiting the production of CO2 from what i understood. Im simply going from what the successful user on this site did.

 

[do0mer]

It still emmits CO after 90 minutes, hell theoretically after 5 hours as well. Cooling it down is mainly preventing fire hazard and limiting the production of CO2 from what i understood. Im simply going from what the successful user on this site did.

alright i understand now. thank you for answering

 

[Groundhog_Day]

Leaving tonight

There was a problem uploading my file. :/ Basically they're pretty white with a sort of hot red glow around them. I have them just outside the tent now. The bucket is emitting a fair bit of heat, is that likely to be a problem? I'll put it on a heat mat but I mean in terms of melting the tent...

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This is the post advising the importance of waiting for the briquettes to cool down before taking them inside. The linked article is about an accidental CO death when a cool bbq was taken inside a tent 5 hours after being lit. Zanexx succeeded, and in their first attempt said they waited 90 minutes after tipping the briquettes out of the chimney starter, before taking it into the tent.

Failed CO Using Charcoal and Car

I just created this account to share my story of failing with CO using charcoal in my car. It was very close and I have ideas for how I survived. Health: 43, male, no major health issues, smoker Vehicle: 2019 Chevy Cruze Charcoal Qty: 1.5 kg (before igniting) CO Meter: TopTes CT-300 (capable of...

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This post is where the charcoal was put straight into the car after 20 minutes in the chimney starter. The attempt failed. It might have been partially due to lack of charcoal (only 1.5kg) but i also think not waiting an hour or so, may have affected the ability to get the optimal CO production and reach closer to 10,000ppm.

Hi, if you've made up your mind about doing this, be very careful with this method. I just got out of the hospital after attempting with the CO method in my car and may have lasting internal organ damage.

I used high quality lump charcoal with a $450 CO meter from TPI, followed @befree's (RIP) method to the T, effectively creating an airtight seal in my car with gorilla tape, using 2 charcoal grills with sufficient coal based on the interior of the car, etc. I reached 7000+ ppm (yes I know it's not 10,000+ but this should still kill within hours at the most and I was in there for 6+ hours undisturbed) which it maintained until I passed out and presumably after. Getting in the car, it was extremely hot (but not smoky, since it was only CO being produced), and I'm still having flashbacks about the few minutes I was hyperventilating in there and dousing myself with cold water to stave off the heat.

6 hours later, I woke up effectively paralyzed (I must have had convulsions in the car and paralyzed a lot of my muscles) and with intense brain fog and wasn't even able to reach the keys in my ignition, only my phone which was laying a few inches from my fingers to call my mom with a voice command.

In the hospital all my vitals were fucked and they pumped me full of oxygen with a high flow mask for a few days with a rotating CNA watching me 24/7 (yes, even as I shit). My ejection fraction was 20% at one point with severe chest pain and troponin in the thousands (like a heart attack). I may have lasting scarring on my heart that will increase my risk for heart attacks and may have to go on dialysis for my kidneys because I fucked them up so much with this (I'm in my mid 20s). Of course I was then transferred to the psych ward which is a whole nother can of worms but let's just say nothing has effectively changed since the 50s. Overall, this was an extremely traumatic experience. I'm not one who ever befor experienced PTSD flashbacks daily but now I picture getting into that car and hyperventilating with the heat daily. This experience has supremely fucked me up both mentally and physically. I may also have brain damage which can manifest in memory loss and cognition delays weeks or months down the line (stay tuned!)

Just sharing my honest experience for your guy's perusal and consideration. Thanks for reading if you made it this far.

This is another case of someone not succeeding after getting into a car with the charcoal still being extremely hot and, having to douse themself with cold water. There may be other factors at play like the amount of charcoal, whether it was burned for the correct time, and how well sealed the car was. But, i do think not allowing the charcoal to cool and reach optimal CO production, like the user in the first link advises, may have been a factor.

 

[do0mer]

Leaving tonight

There was a problem uploading my file. :/ Basically they're pretty white with a sort of hot red glow around them. I have them just outside the tent now. The bucket is emitting a fair bit of heat, is that likely to be a problem? I'll put it on a heat mat but I mean in terms of melting the tent...

sanctioned-suicide.net

This is the post advising the importance of waiting for the briquettes to cool down before taking them inside. The linked article is about an accidental CO death when a cool bbq was taken inside a tent 5 hours after being lit. Zanexx succeeded, and in their first attempt said they waited 90 minutes after tipping the briquettes out of the chimney starter, before taking it into the tent.

Failed CO Using Charcoal and Car

I just created this account to share my story of failing with CO using charcoal in my car. It was very close and I have ideas for how I survived. Health: 43, male, no major health issues, smoker Vehicle: 2019 Chevy Cruze Charcoal Qty: 1.5 kg (before igniting) CO Meter: TopTes CT-300 (capable of...

sanctioned-suicide.net

This post is where the charcoal was put straight into the car after 20 minutes in the chimney starter. The attempt failed. It might have been partially due to lack of charcoal (only 1.5kg) but i also think not waiting an hour or so, may have affected the ability to get the optimal CO production and reach closer to 10,000ppm.


This is another case of someone not succeeding after getting into a car with the charcoal still being extremely hot and, having to douse themself with cold water. There may be other factors at play like the amount of charcoal, whether it was burned for the correct time, and how well sealed the car was. But, i do think not allowing the charcoal to cool and reach optimal CO production, like the user in the first link advises, may have been a factor.

Alright, thanks for linking these for me