Help Chloroquine method?

[Fire&Ash]

Hello I searched here for the chloroquine method because I saw it on the recent addition in PPH. You take 40x250mg of chloroquine and then 20x30mg of Oxazepam.
However I found a different thread here that states I need both long acting and fast acting benzos.
"500mg of a long-acting benzodiazepine and 100mg of a fast-acting benzodiazepine."
I also want to say I don't know I would get long lasting benzo. Does anyone know how?
What do I do?

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

Chloroquine is mentioned as well in 'Uitweg' (Dignified Dying) by Boudewijn Chabot. I'm betting that's where you got

"500mg of a long-acting benzodiazepine and 100mg of a fast-acting benzodiazepine."

It also says a deadly dose of Chloroquine = 11 gram (110 tablets of 100 mg).

You really need the fast-acting benzo, because you're going to be in a world of pain if you don't take these. Chabot's book describes a case where someone takes the chloroquine with a long lasting benzo, but without a fast-acting benzo. Muscle cramps can occur within an hour of taking chloroquine.

But the problem may not be with the benzos, but with the chloroquine. I've checked out this method, but apparently chloroquine isn't often prescribed anymore, because modern day malaria is resistant to it.

 

[Fire&Ash]

Chloroquine is mentioned as well in 'Uitweg' (Dignified Dying) by Boudewijn Chabot. I'm betting that's where you got

"500mg of a long-acting benzodiazepine and 100mg of a fast-acting benzodiazepine."

It also says a deadly dose of Chloroquine = 11 gram (110 tablets of 100 mg).

You really need the fast-acting benzo, because you're going to be in a world of pain if you don't take these. Chabot's book describes a case where someone takes the chloroquine with a long lasting benzo, but without a fast-acting benzo. Muscle cramps can occur within an hour of taking chloroquine.

But the problem may not be with the benzos, but with the chloroquine. I've checked out this method, but apparently chloroquine isn't often prescribed anymore, because modern day malaria is resistant to it.

God I wouldn't even know how I would get long lasting benzo. I feel so hopeless

 

[Eudaimonic]

This subject is tricky because there's a lot of disagreement on what the optimal protocol is. Chabot recommends taking 17.5g of chloroquine phosphate whereas Docker recommends ~10g. Chabot recommends fast-acting and long-acting benzos and Docker just recommends zolpidem. Chabot says that diazepam is fine, and Docker says that it's not. Both authors raise valid points.

The PPH suggests using amitriptyline-digoxin switch, but I don't know if this is wise. Cimetidine potentiates chloroquine, so might be a good idea to take that.

Time until death varies from 3 or 4 hours all the way to 24 hours. Maybe the amitriptyline-digoxin switch could decrease this, but we don't have a great understanding of how chloroquine even works.

It's best to do your own research

 

[Bimbosqualo]

La clorochina è menzionata anche in "Uitweg" (Morire dignitosamente) di Boudewijn Chabot. Scommetto che è da lì che sei arrivato

"500 mg di una benzodiazepina ad azione prolungata e 100 mg di una benzodiazepina ad azione rapida."

Dice anche che la dose mortale di clorochina è pari a 11 grammi (110 compresse da 100 mg).

Hai davvero bisogno del benzo ad azione rapida, perché ti troverai in un mondo di dolore se non prendi questi. Il libro di Chabot descrive un caso in cui qualcuno assume la clorochina con un benzo a lunga durata, ma senza un benzo ad azione rapida. I crampi muscolari possono verificarsi entro un'ora dall'assunzione di clorochina.

Ma il problema potrebbe non essere con le benzodiazepine, ma con la clorochina. Ho verificato questo metodo, ma a quanto pare la clorochina non viene più prescritta spesso, perché la malaria moderna è resistente a questa.

Hai avuto fortuna?

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

Hai avuto fortuna?

Come again?

 

[Michi_Violeta]

The discrepancies about the protocol amd the unavailability of benzos in my situation have made me reconsider this method even if I already had the required amount. Going by most accounts, chloroquine and amitriptyline are less reliable and potentially more painful than SN

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

The discrepancies about the protocol amd the unavailability of benzos in my situation have made me reconsider this method even if I already had the required amount. Going by most accounts, chloroquine and amitriptyline are less reliable and potentially more painful than SN

Yes, Chloroquine can be quite painful. That's why you need both benzos. In 'Uitweg' a case is described were a person didn't take the long lasting benzo and it was very painful. The end result (ctb) was there, but you don't want to go like that.

 

[Bimbosqualo]

Hi, I have 24gr of Hydroxychloroquine, 14gr of clarithromycin but only 1g of diazepam. I could add metformin and vortioxetine to the mix but I don't know if they serve to increase the toxicity of the hydroxychloroquine or not
Non mi interessa la sofferenza, voglio solo la certezza della CTB

 

[Michi_Violeta]

Hi, I have 24gr of Hydroxychloroquine, 14gr of clarithromycin but only 1g of diazepam. I could add metformin and vortioxetine to the mix but I don't know if they serve to increase the toxicity of the hydroxychloroquine or not
Non mi interessa la sofferenza, voglio solo la certezza della CTB

If you don't mind suffering, only certainty, then chloroquine can be a possibility. It's worth considering you're taking a risk with hydroxychloroquine because, according to the PPH, it's much less lethal than chloroquine. Still, 24gr is a lot and the diazepam could help with sedation.

I'd do a bit more research in your situation just to make sure I'm going with something without a chance of failure or extreme suffering.

 

[Bimbosqualo]

If you don't mind suffering, only certainty, then chloroquine can be a possibility. It's worth considering you're taking a risk with hydroxychloroquine because, according to the PPH, it's much less lethal than chloroquine. Still, 24gr is a lot and the diazepam could help with sedation.

I'd do a bit more research in your situation just to make sure I'm going with something without a chance of failure or extreme suffering.

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Thank you so much for your reply. Yes, I read that it is 40% less toxic than chloroquine, unfortunately they are the only drugs I have acquired

 

[Tommen Baratheon]

Hi, I have 24gr of Hydroxychloroquine, 14gr of clarithromycin but only 1g of diazepam. I could add metformin and vortioxetine to the mix but I don't know if they serve to increase the toxicity of the hydroxychloroquine or not
Non mi interessa la sofferenza, voglio solo la certezza della CTB

From 'Uitweg' (Boudewijn Chabot)

"500mg of a long-acting benzodiazepine and 100mg of a fast-acting benzodiazepine."

It also says a deadly dose of Chloroquine = 11 gram (110 tablets of 100 mg).