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WanderingTiger

WanderingTiger

Seeking peace amidst the chaos of the world.
Feb 16, 2025
31
I'm really considering using this method, and it's the most incredibly accessible option for me. However, I have some doubts, even though I don't intend to do this now.

  1. Is it really as simple to use this method as just locking myself in somewhere and waiting?
  2. What consequences might I face if I fail?
  3. Is carbon monoxide poisoning more effective and painless than SN? (I have thought about SN, but now I have doubts about it being the most peaceful option.)
I appreciate anyone who takes the time to answer this. If anyone wants to discuss this further, feel free to message me privately.
 
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locked*n*loaded

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Apr 15, 2022
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There's work involved in using CO to ctb. You need to find a suitable small space, like a small room, a car, or a tent. Any potential points of leakage should be sealed up. Charcoal needs to be lit elsewhere, preferably outside, and allowed to burn until it's glowing red hot and no longer emitting smoke. Then it is brought into your chosen space and time (without you present) is given to allow the CO being produced by the hot charcoal to fill the space. After some time elapses, then you enter the room and take several deep breaths.

For CO to be the most peaceful, CO levels should be very, very high. The truly only way to know how high they are is by using a CO analyzer (about $300 US) capable of measuring CO levels up to 10000 parts-per-million (ppm). A good quality charcoal should be used, one that is 100% carbon and preferably "lump" composition. You'll need something to light the coals in (metal buckets) as well as something to place the hot containers on in your chosen space (bricks). It may be easier to get the charcoal going in chimney starters and then transfer them to metal buckets.

The amount of charcoal to use is governed by the equation of 0.135 kg/m³. You need to measure your chosen space's height, length, and width and multiple the 3 measurements together to obtain the volume of the room. If measuring in US Customary units, just convert over to SI units. Whatever volume you calculate for your space, just multiply it by 0.135 kg/m³ and that will give you the MINIMUM amount of charcoal in kg to use. Take that amount and at least triple it to be safe and make sure you are using enough. If you need the amount in pounds (lbs) just use an online converter.
 
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WanderingTiger

WanderingTiger

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Feb 16, 2025
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There's work involved in using CO to ctb. You need to find a suitable small space, like a small room, a car, or a tent. Any potential points of leakage should be sealed up. Charcoal needs to be lit elsewhere, preferably outside, and allowed to burn until it's glowing red hot and no longer emitting smoke. Then it is brought into your chosen space and time (without you present) is given to allow the CO being produced by the hot charcoal to fill the space. After some time elapses, then you enter the room and take several deep breaths.

For CO to be the most peaceful, CO levels should be very, very high. The truly only way to know how high they are is by using a CO analyzer (about $300 US) capable of measuring CO levels up to 10000 parts-per-million (ppm). A good quality charcoal should be used, one that is 100% carbon and preferably "lump" composition. You'll need something to light the coals in (metal buckets) as well as something to place the hot containers on in your chosen space (bricks). It may be easier to get the charcoal going in chimney starters and then transfer them to metal buckets.

The amount of charcoal to use is governed by the equation of 0.135 kg/m³. You need to measure your chosen space's height, length, and width and multiple the 3 measurements together to obtain the volume of the room. If measuring in US Customary units, just convert over to SI units. Whatever volume you calculate for your space, just multiply it by 0.135 kg/m³ and that will give you the MINIMUM amount of charcoal in kg to use. Take that amount and at least triple it to be safe and make sure you are using enough. If you need the amount in pounds (lbs) just use an online converter.
Thank you very much for the information ❤️
 
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Mav

Mav

Lost somewhere
Aug 30, 2024
25
SN is anything but peac
I'm really considering using this method, and it's the most incredibly accessible option for me. However, I have some doubts, even though I don't intend to do this now.

  1. Is it really as simple to use this method as just locking myself in somewhere and waiting?
  2. What consequences might I face if I fail?
  3. Is carbon monoxide poisoning more effective and painless than SN? (I have thought about SN, but now I have doubts about it being the most peaceful option.)
I appreciate anyone who takes the time to answer this. If anyone wants to discuss this further, feel free to message me privatel
 
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Shadows From Hell

Shadows From Hell

The one who has lost a lot, fears nothing.
Oct 21, 2024
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If you decide to use a tent, spray entire outside of tent with sealant(the type to prevent leaks), and let dry. This helps to seal the tent more.

Tape all openings, window zippers, door zipper, and the hole to feed power cord through (if it comes with it). You may have to seal the top of inside tent if it has ventilation opening.

Then continue on with locked*n*loaded's recommendations.
 
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77redbike

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There's work involved in using CO to ctb. You need to find a suitable small space, like a small room, a car, or a tent. Any potential points of leakage should be sealed up. Charcoal needs to be lit elsewhere, preferably outside, and allowed to burn until it's glowing red hot and no longer emitting smoke. Then it is brought into your chosen space and time (without you present) is given to allow the CO being produced by the hot charcoal to fill the space. After some time elapses, then you enter the room and take several deep breaths.

For CO to be the most peaceful, CO levels should be very, very high. The truly only way to know how high they are is by using a CO analyzer (about $300 US) capable of measuring CO levels up to 10000 parts-per-million (ppm). A good quality charcoal should be used, one that is 100% carbon and preferably "lump" composition. You'll need something to light the coals in (metal buckets) as well as something to place the hot containers on in your chosen space (bricks). It may be easier to get the charcoal going in chimney starters and then transfer them to metal buckets.

The amount of charcoal to use is governed by the equation of 0.135 kg/m³. You need to measure your chosen space's height, length, and width and multiple the 3 measurements together to obtain the volume of the room. If measuring in US Customary units, just convert over to SI units. Whatever volume you calculate for your space, just multiply it by 0.135 kg/m³ and that will give you the MINIMUM amount of charcoal in kg to use. Take that amount and at least triple it to be safe and make sure you are using enough. If you need the amount in pounds (lbs) just use an online converter.
I have just started looking for a CO analyzer. The ones I've found are 0-10000 PPM, so the sensor has to be very sensitive, enough to read the low PPM but robust enough to read the high . It seems that some can be damaged with the high PPM. I'd hate to spend $300 or more and destroy a sensor. Does anyone know of an analyzer that successfully measures up to 10,000 PPM.
 
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locked*n*loaded

Archangel
Apr 15, 2022
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I have just started looking for a CO analyzer. The ones I've found are 0-10000 PPM, so the sensor has to be very sensitive, enough to read the low PPM but robust enough to read the high . It seems that some can be damaged with the high PPM. I'd hate to spend $300 or more and destroy a sensor. Does anyone know of an analyzer that successfully measures up to 10,000 PPM.
If you've found an analyzer that measures up to 10,000 PPM, it's going to come with a calibration certificate certifying its accuracy. My TPI did. And how would you know, anyway, if it's readings are erroneous? What we're doing with it isn't as "important" as measuring CO emission on a forklift in a factory. I think if someone is able to generate enough CO in a small space that peaks out the analyzer, that should be plenty close for our needs, even if it happens to be "off" some small percentage.
 
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77redbike

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Mar 21, 2025
9
I'm sorry I didn't communicate very well. I am not concerned with accuracy but just will work at high levels without damaging it. From your response I guess it's not a problem, at least with your TPI. Can you let me know which TPI model you have and if you have tested it at maximum level? From reading some of your posts I feel confident in your advice. I am new to the site and still trying to figure out how to navigate it.
 
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Feb 25, 2025
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If you've found an analyzer that measures up to 10,000 PPM, it's going to come with a calibration certificate certifying its accuracy. My TPI did. And how would you know, anyway, if it's readings are erroneous? What we're doing with it isn't as "important" as measuring CO emission on a forklift in a factory. I think if someone is able to generate enough CO in a small space that peaks out the analyzer, that should be plenty close for our needs, even if it happens to be "off" some small percentage.
I read the co chapter on Ppeh.
Where do you put analyzer so you don't go into room with CO until it's ready.
 
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locked*n*loaded

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Apr 15, 2022
8,442
I read the co chapter on Ppeh.
Where do you put analyzer so you don't go into room with CO until it's ready.
It has a probe on a metallic sheathed wire. Pretty long. You can stick it in wherever you can and the analyzer stays on the outside of your "space".
 

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