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WhatMightHaveBeen

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Sep 16, 2024
50
First, the reasons: Over the course of my life I've made a couple of very bad financial decisions and now after being a millionaire twice -- once from a lucrative career that I quit about 15 years ago for another career path that failed and once from crypto investments that multiplied my money 100x during COVID then collapsed suddenly to essentially zero -- I'm deeply in debt, relegated to doing gig food delivery that isn't making ends meet, and facing homelessness. I'm also deathly afraid of near-term extinction by nuclear war or artificial general intelligence (my p(doom) is about 50%), with climate change being a distant third. I'm also a drug addict whose multi-year sobriety ended in despair when Russia invaded Ukraine and suddenly nuclear war was very much a probability (and even if it's not Russia alone, it will be some combination of China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea). I'm nearly 50(!) and have been living with relatives the past seven years because of my financial situation, even as my assets' value was nearing $1 million because I didn't want to touch my investments so as to let them keep accruing. (Then there is also a lot of guilt because family and friends invested with me and I failed to cash in on our temporary good fortune and have zero returns for them when I could have provided them with 100x returns.) And now for the past 18 months the relatives I live with have been following me absolutely everywhere --including when I'm out doing deliveries-- to make sure I don't buy and use drugs, so on top of losing major fortunes twice in my life and my fear of extinction, I have to deal with that hassle and humiliation.

Now, the solution: I crave freedom from living in this shitty situation of guilt, regret, fear, and poverty, but I want to go out after having one last major drug binge. Anyone who has known the euphoria of either properly dosed stimulants or opiates (not the stepped on crap that pervades most markets) will understand: That euphoria is life-changing and life-defining. If the downsides of addiction and particularly of prohibition can be avoided because one is going to die anyway. either by disease, natural causes, or CBT, then drug-induced euphoria followed by the oblivion of an overdose is absolutely the way to go. I only started using again after years of sobriety because I was suddenly broke and convinced the world was going to end in nuclear fire. If I hadn't have gone broke, I would have been using my fortune on drugs anyway in anticipation of extinction. Ideally I would have been able to afford living on my own, remaining high as a kite the whole time, with a fatal dose of heroin and/or fentanyl ready for when news came in that Russian or Chinese or North Korean ICBMs were on their way.

Now I have just enough credit available left for a few nights in a cheap motel and cash advances for a couple of days of crack (I've only ever found good coke in South America, but good or great crack can actually be found in various parts of the U.S., even where the "coke" is crap) and heroin. I'm actually a cocaine, crack, Adderall, and meth veteran, but a total opiate virgin. So I figure I'm a good candidate for heroin and/or fentanyl fatal overdose, especially if they are used on top of powerful stimulants. From what I can tell, there is simply no more peaceful way to go than the sudden blackout followed by respiratory depression that powerful opiates can induce. What I'm afraid of is the possible nausea and vomiting that could be brought on by a fatal dose. (My understanding is that nausea and vomiting could actually happen at any dose.) There is also the fear that it simply won't work the first time, and I can really afford just the one attempt, with bankruptcy and homelessness on the other side of the attempt. I live in the U.S., and most local shopping centers have a gun store, so purchasing a gun is an option, but that would take several hundred dollars away from my drug-binge budget, and I'm not sure I could go through with that sort of violence to myself at the end of my binge. I know the violence of the ending is more or less directly proportional to effectiveness, but I'm still set on going out with crack followed by fentanyl-laced heroin.

In order to go through with my plan for a motel room followed by a binge and overdose, I'd have to literally escape from my house in an Uber while no one was paying attention. The other adults here either work from home or are retired so someone is always around, and one of the retirees accompanies me in the car during my gig delivery work hours. If I escape to use drugs, then I am effectively immediately evicted and will have no place to return to. But I pay room and board in order to remain living here and am running out of money and will likely be evicted anyway. So homelessness and debt --after two real chances at a very comfortable retirement with nearly $1 million-- are simply in the cards, no matter what. And following that, nuclear holocaust. Death by sudden nuclear total body disruption is scary enough, but odds are also good that one would survive the incineration of the blast and instead be trapped under rubble with no hope of rescue, horribly burned yet still living, dying in nausea and pain due to radiation poisoning, or slowly starving to death in a nuclear winter.

I tried to keep this short, but it turned out to be quite a wall of text. If you got through all of it, thanks for your time.
 
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nir

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Aug 18, 2024
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I haven't seen anyone be this afraid of nuclear war in a long time. Do you live somewhere that would be target, i.e. your country's capital? If not, I really feel like climate change is the scarier and more likely future tbh. Not that that's more relieving, climate change is terrifying. I'm just wondering why nuclear war is what you think is most likely to take us all out.
 
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Kali_Yuga13

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Jul 11, 2024
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Nuclear holocaust is a giant nothing burger to keep the population under control. If you're nearly 50, you should remember the cold war and a the hype in movies like Red Dawn. Our boomer parents had to do duck and cover drills and hide under their desks as if that would help anyway. I hate to break it to you but climate change is another nothing burger imo. The biggest climate change politicians are buying up beach front property and the water hasn't risen an inch at Plymouth Rock despite decades of fear mongering.

IMO the real problems are AI, automation, surveillance state, covert social credit system, absolute garbage food supply, poisoned air and water, predatory medical and insurance system, inflation driving even the middle class into poverty and compete demoralization. When that breaks a person the drugs are there for you to finish the job yourself.

If you are not a regular opiate user just a matchhead sized bump of H will have you puking from the depths. After that you can get the nod.
I'm also deathly afraid of near-term extinction by nuclear war
It's funny because for some of us a nuclear bomb would solve the moral dilemma of ctb and take SI out of the equation. There is a paradox in solving the problem of near term extinction by way of suicide.

If you're good at crypto, maybe you can start again and get lucky with meme coins? Rebuilding financially at 50 while being under the watchful eye of those around you sounds tough. I'm not in as bad a situation but close enough to understand.

You may or may not agree on my take. It seems that people just as much at the end of their rope but for vastly different reasons. I feel like the "system" has recipe to make almost everyone miserable.
 
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yowai

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Aug 28, 2024
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I'd also like to go using some sort of opiates, first get a hang of it then just put enough in my body through a syringe that I won't be even conscious for the vomiting part lol. As for the nuclear war I fantasize about it sometimes because I like games and fictional worlds based around it and if it were to happen and you were in the center of an explosion you would cease to exist in a second lol. And if I managed to survive maybe with the circumstances being so severe the depression would go away as I'm focused on getting shelter and basic means to survive. It's just a fantasy though, I wouldn't think about it too much because there's nothing we can really do, it depends on few people in power that could authorize the attack
 
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cryptoinvestor

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Jul 12, 2024
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If you're good at crypto, maybe you can start again and get lucky with meme coins?
memecoins are a gamble, he might as well go to the casino and blow it there. Just ask anyone in the Solana trenches how insanely difficult it is. I've been doing ok investing in AI agents, particularly virtuals on base, like $AIXBT for example.

I can relate to OP's story, except I 'm much younger, i'm 31f and also made a million $ during the 2021 bull run. I didn't sell the top, the bear market came and I was accustomed to a certain lifestyle already, think beachfront apartment, designer drugs, unemployed party girl just living off dwindling gains. So now I'm in debt but I'm building my portfolio back up with AI agents.

On the flipside, I also hate AI like OP does and my pdoom is higher. I believe once we reach AGI, it's literally over. I don't know how it ends exactly but things will change and it will be end times for sure. I am now obsessed with watching AI safety content. I am 100% an AI doomer at this point and oddly enough, it brings me some sort of comfort.
 
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needthebus

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Apr 29, 2024
777
it's funny, i'm not sure i even want pleasure anymore

pleasure makes things less painful, but it still leaves me with the same problems.

i think nuclear war is probably not that likely, but i suppose i could be surprised. i do keep potassium iodine with me. i am more afraid of bird flu.
 

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