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bungalooping

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Sep 11, 2023
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Hey guys, I see that in my country they sell a raticide, under the name of Raticide 70, with its main component being alpha chloralose, would it be a good method? I can't find much on it neither online or on this website, I have some anti emetics, so I'm sure I won't vomit it out.

The question is it lethal enough to kill me or will it just ruin my internal organs.

Edit : I wanna link its photo.
 

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FishRain3469

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Mar 12, 2025
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Sounds extremely unreliable and painful Imho... Please don't do this. 🙏
 
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YandereMikuMistress

YandereMikuMistress

you say falling victim to myself is weak, so be it
Apr 26, 2023
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Seems like an aged method that could use a more reliable one,, I've read to many painful articles on deaths involving rat poisonings and fertilizer poisoning
 
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bungalooping

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Sep 11, 2023
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Sounds extremely unreliable and painful Imho... Please don't do this. 🙏
I don't know anything about this method yet I need more info, I'm stuck and I need to kill myself.
Seems like an aged method that could use a more reliable one,, I've read to many painful articles on deaths involving rat poisonings and fertilizer poisoning
Yeah but this component (alpha chloralose) is supposedly different and lethal enough.

 
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RadiantNumber

RadiantNumber

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Mar 2, 2024
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Uh, I asked AI about it

Alpha-chloralose is a chemical compound used primarily as a rodenticide and avicide. It acts as a central nervous system (CNS) depressant, but also has stimulating effects on spinal reflexes. Ingestion can lead to a range of symptoms, varying in severity depending on the dose and individual susceptibility.
General Symptoms of Alpha-Chloralose Intoxication (in humans and animals):
* Central Nervous System (CNS) Effects:
* Depression: Drowsiness, lethargy, somnolence, stupor, progressing to coma in severe cases.
* Excitation/Stimulation: Tremors, muscle spasms, hyperesthesia (increased sensitivity to stimuli), hyperreflexia, ataxia (lack of muscle coordination), disorientation. In some cases, generalized convulsions resembling strychnine poisoning can occur.
* Cranial Nerve Deficits: Miosis (constricted pupils) is common, but mydriasis (dilated pupils) or alternating pupils can also be seen. Vision impairment has been reported in animals.
* Thermoregulation Issues:
* Hypothermia: This is a very common and characteristic symptom, especially in cats, as alpha-chloralose interferes with the body's ability to maintain temperature.
* Hyperthermia: Less common, but can occur, particularly in dogs, potentially due to convulsive states or environmental factors.
* Other Symptoms:
* **Hypersalivation (excessive drooling): Very common, especially in animals.
* Respiratory Depression: Bradypnea (slow breathing) leading to dyspnea (difficulty breathing) and potentially apnea (cessation of breathing), sometimes due to bronchial hypersecretion.
* Cardiovascular Effects: Bradycardia (slow heart rate), hypotension (low blood pressure), and potentially cardiac arrhythmias.
* Gastrointestinal Disturbances: Vomiting (especially soon after ingestion).
* Cyanosis: Bluish discoloration of the skin or mucous membranes due to lack of oxygen.
Important Considerations:
* Onset of Symptoms: Symptoms can appear rapidly, sometimes within 15 minutes, but more commonly within 1-4 hours after ingestion.
* Dose-Dependent Effects: The severity of symptoms is dose-dependent, with higher doses leading to more severe and potentially fatal outcomes.
* Species Differences: While many symptoms are common across species, there can be some variations. For example, hypothermia is particularly pronounced in cats, while coma might be more common in dogs at higher doses. Cats are also generally more sensitive to this toxin.
* Prognosis: The prognosis is generally favorable with prompt and supportive treatment. However, in untreated or severe cases, especially where an animal is exposed to cold environments while intoxicated, it can be fatal due to respiratory failure, circulatory collapse, or profound hypothermia.
Treatment:
There is no specific antidote for alpha-chloralose intoxication. Treatment is primarily supportive and symptomatic, focusing on:
* Decontamination (e.g., activated charcoal, gastric lavage if appropriate and within a short timeframe after ingestion).
* Maintaining vital functions (monitoring heart rate, respiration, blood pressure).
* Controlling seizures and tremors with anticonvulsants (e.g., diazepam, barbiturates).
* Maintaining a normal body temperature (warming in cases of hypothermia).
* Minimizing external stimuli.
* Providing intravenous fluids.
If you suspect alpha-chloralose intoxication in a human or an animal, seek immediate medical attention or veterinary care.

It doesn't sounds painless
 
nobodycaresaboutme

nobodycaresaboutme

maybe my English kinda sucks
Jun 30, 2025
62
There is a report about failed attempts of Alphachloralose suicide.
Accoding to the link, 98% of cases recovered. This method is very unreliable.
I recommend you to reconsider unless you are so desparate and willing to bet on 2%.
 
WakingNightmare

WakingNightmare

Member
May 1, 2025
57
looks like the ld50 could be quite high for this one so don't be so sure you won't vomit up if you need to eat a lot of it